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anal prolapse, how common?

  • 31-01-2014 1:11am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭


    Have a fine big ewe put her gut out about six inches last night. got it back without much bother, and tied string across to the wool etc. Out again today. So bought a prolapse. harness complete with the plastic "spoon". working so far, but just wondering, how common this? Usually it is the "reed" that prolapse, i believe?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭jt65


    have seen a it a couple of times

    from experience it's best to factory sooner rather than later


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭rancher


    jt65 wrote: »
    have seen a it a couple of times

    from experience it's best to factory sooner rather than later

    Agree...any prolapse is a weakness and will only be worse the following year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    1-2% of ewes a year,would be my guess.The ewe might or might not have a live lamb the first year it happens, but the second year..... Usually not so lucky.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭Conmaicne Mara


    Don't remember ever seeing it, don't believe I ever wish to either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    She is not impressed with the "man-kini" I have her trussed up in!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭crazygeryy


    Great name for a band. Anal prolapse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    Don't remember ever seeing it, don't believe I ever wish to either.

    It ain't pretty, they don't really know the exact cause of it , but reckon it's down to diet , genetics or cutting the tail too short


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    crazygeryy wrote: »
    Great name for a band. Anal prolapse.

    Better than "Killswitch Engage" anyway :}


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    Seen it once here in a ewe, factories her ASAP as it was summer time and I'd say it was only a matter of time before the flies started at her. But she was forcing a lot, so she was on borrowed time...
    If I was you, I'd try to be tis of her ASAP.

    Also had it happens lamb. Had to put him out of his misery, as he had put a lot out. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    1-2% of ewes a year,would be my guess.The ewe might or might not have a live lamb the first year it happens, but the second year..... Usually not so lucky.


    Apologies guys,

    Misread the title , the prolapse I want referring to is the normal prolapse, experienced late in pregnancy , never seen an anal one !!!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Has anyone here heard of this being called "putting out the boon-doon") an Irish word??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭AnFeirmeoir


    Don't know about anal prolapse but I can confirm ewes with the standard ones reoffend . She's harnessed up again now .
    " sure I'll risk her" didn't pay off.

    She lambed fine last year so hope I get away with it again .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    I believe that is a hereditary issue caused by a recessive gene. Something to do with the cell wall being weak and the prolapse is a result of that. Any other instances in her daughters or ewes out of the same ram?

    It is seen more in terminal breeds, or so my google research tells me :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    Had a fecking case of this when I went out this morning... :mad:

    Threw her into the shed, not sure what I'll do with her.

    I assume ewes have never sorted themselves out from this, in your experience? (The reason I ask is I wasn't planning on going to the factory for a few weeks - it would be useful if she could hold on... but that sounds like very wishful thinking)

    I kinda know the only thing I should do is send her to the factory ASAP... :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭rancher


    Had a fecking case of this when I went out this morning... :mad:

    Threw her into the shed, not sure what I'll do with her.

    I assume ewes have never sorted themselves out from this, in your experience? (The reason I ask is I wasn't planning on going to the factory for a few weeks - it would be useful if she could hold on... but that sounds like very wishful thinking)

    I kinda know the only thing I should do is send her to the factory ASAP... :(

    If her intestines are out she wont last long, Just after doing a lamb bed here, had to hang her on the loader.
    Are you sure its not the lamb bed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    rancher wrote: »
    If her intestines are out she wont last long, Just after doing a lamb bed here, had to hang her on the loader.
    Are you sure its not the lamb bed

    No, no - not the lamb bed. No intestines (yet)

    It was only a small bit, maybe the size of a sliotar. But I imagine they can go from not much out, to everything out in no time...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭rancher


    No, no - not the lamb bed. No intestines (yet)

    It was only a small bit, maybe the size of a sliotar. But I imagine they can go from not much out, to everything out in no time...

    Have you a prolapse harness


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Perhaps give her a dose of liquid parrafin in case she has a load of stuff in the stomach, etc.? For the one I had, I got one of the nylon harness things, like a parachute harness, spoon etc, but while she lasted a few days, was stiff dead one morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 fixitagaintomo


    Had a fecking case of this when I went out this morning... :mad:

    Threw her into the shed, not sure what I'll do with her.

    I assume ewes have never sorted themselves out from this, in your experience? (The reason I ask is I wasn't planning on going to the factory for a few weeks - it would be useful if she could hold on... but that sounds like very wishful thinking)

    I kinda know the only thing I should do is send her to the factory ASAP... :(

    I had a case two weeks back, ewe with two week old twins so factory was out of equation had to fix.
    Advice from the vet was to wash it down with soapy water and disinfectant, push it back in, give her 1.5ml of oxytocin to stop her pushing for a while. If she was sitting on it and it was very dirty Id give her a shot of pen and strep too.
    it came back out once after that but it seems to have been resolved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    I had a case two weeks back, ewe with two week old twins so factory was out of equation had to fix.
    Advice from the vet was to wash it down with soapy water and disinfectant, push it back in, give her 1.5ml of oxytocin to stop her pushing for a while. If she was sitting on it and it was very dirty Id give her a shot of pen and strep too.
    it came back out once after that but it seems to have been resolved.

    Kinda in the same boat here... she has a lamb, altho he'd prob be about 4 weeks now...

    I put it bakc in this morning. Whether it will be that way when I get home, we'll see...

    I didn't give her any injections, as I wanted to see if she would be a factory case (and I didn't want to have any withdrawal period issues)
    Will see how she is this eve, and then see what to do...

    Good to hear that your ewe sorted herself out - I would be a bit inclined to give her a chance now that I have heard at least one good story ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭eire23


    Any ewe that puts it out here i do tie them up with a rope. Generally works most of the time and is a far cheaper solution than the harness. In your case when it was only slightly out i would nearly guarantee it to work. Give them the road when their weaned.

    Had one put out hers badly last week, wasnt that long lambed. Washed it and got it back in eventually and tied her up and shes grand since. Will take it off in a week or two and see how she gets on.


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