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Has your privacy been invaded?

  • 28-01-2014 2:16am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.independent.ie/business/almost-70pc-irish-people-claim-data-privacy-breaches-29954042.html
    over two thirds of Irish people believe that they have suffered an invasion of privacy, with unsolicited emails and text messages being the most common result of such privacy breaches.

    I have certainly experienced incidents involving my own data, most noteably when a Irish hotel bounced my mobile number through a South African bulk text service and then I started getting South African spam.

    As a qualified Data Protection practicioner I roasted them over it :D


    So have you experienced sloppy Data Protection practices from Irish companies?

    Has your privacy been invaded? 48 votes

    Yes
    0% 0 votes
    No
    58% 28 votes
    Atari Database
    41% 20 votes


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    I think it's a mix of people's over-willingness to share data without questioning the body they're giving data to, and the bad handling of said data by that body.

    I've been careful for the most part in giving confidential information to companies, but all it takes is a breach really, as has been shown many times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Never.

    I wouldn't consider spam or cold callers an invasion of privacy though, just a mild annoyance. The more you let things bother you, the bigger a problem they become.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    The NSA has breached the privacy of you and every single person you know (and pretty much all of those you don't know as well) - so yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    The NSA has breached the privacy of you and every single person you know (and pretty much all of those you don't know as well) - so yes.

    Jesus they must be bored stupid, even I'm bored reading my own crap and it my life!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    Senna wrote: »
    Jesus they must be bored stupid, even I'm bored reading my own crap and it my life!!
    I'd say theres fairly fancy software to filter out de lulz and de omg's from the "national security" type words. Then somebody gets involved.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 37 Bounty Hunter Dan


    Postman came in slid the mail under my pillow one morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,565 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    spam emails are an invasion of privacy now rather than just a minor annoyance?
    every twenty minute so I guess


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    spam emails are an invasion of privacy now rather than just a minor annoyance?
    every twenty minute so I guess

    Who did they get your email address from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,661 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Are spam emails the same as junk mail.Invasion of privacy is a bit strong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,565 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    MadsL wrote: »
    Who did they get your email address from?

    how am I supposed to know?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    I was dropping a log at work - the lock on the door is very dodgy - and one of the IT lads barged right in on top of me just as I was bearing down on a hefty chunk. I considered that a breach of my privacy involving IT. No Spam was involved, but I'd had a fair amount of Dennys ham.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    how am I supposed to know?

    Let me give you a hint, free sign up porn sites.

    :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,779 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    In the absence of an official hanko, combined with the fact that signatures are not used in Japan, I'm routinely asked to write down my PIN in banks so staff can check it to verify my identity.

    Does that count?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Anybody who calls spam emails an invasion of privacy is either paranoid or has too little to think about. It's just junk mail. It doesn't interfere with your private life. It doesn't hurt or cost you? So somebody has hacked a contacts list and sent you an offer you have no interest in! Wow such an offence against your person!

    A stalker, someone accessing your bank accounts, someone reading your private correspondance, someone hacking your phone, peering through the bedroom window, bugging the rooms....that's invading your privacy. But sending you spam???? Oh grow up people!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Anybody who calls spam emails an invasion of privacy is either paranoid or has too little to think about. It's just junk mail. It doesn't interfere with your private life. It doesn't hurt or cost you? So somebody has hacked a contacts list and sent you an offer you have no interest in! Wow such an offence against your person!

    If I know for a fact that a company that I provided personal information to for a specific purpose then passes that information to their brain-dead marketing department and uses it to market to me without my consent, that is not paranoia nor having little to think about, it is pure and simple a breach of the law, both Irish and EU law in fact.

    And Spam harmless? Spam adds a $20 bn cost to society. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/08/cost-of-spam_n_1757726.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    MadsL wrote: »
    If I know for a fact that a company that I provided personal information to for a specific purpose then passes that information to their brain-dead marketing department and uses it to market to me without my consent, that is not paranoia nor having little to think about, it is pure and simple a breach of the law, both Irish and EU law in fact.

    And Spam harmless? Spam adds a $20 bn cost to society. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/08/cost-of-spam_n_1757726.html

    How personal? I don't regard my contact details or purchases as private as I would my conversations with trusted friends, my pillow book, my knicker drawer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭Monkeybonkers


    If you've downloaded Angry Birds then your privacy has more than likely been invaded. Seems British and USA intelligence have been using apps to gather info on people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Muise... wrote: »
    How personal? I don't regard my contact details or purchases as private as I would my conversations with trusted friends, my pillow book, my knicker drawer.

    I would consider my mobile number to be personal for instance, as does the law, and not fair game for marketing texts.

    Having moved to the US I am astonished how many retailers retain my credit card number after authorising my purchase. I'm facing one now where the CEO just advised the public that their credit card number has been stolen. Great, good job, remind me again why you monkeys decided that keeping it after I completed my purchase was so necessary. :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 751 ✭✭✭travis1976


    I hate spam email, especially seeing as I never sign up for any crap that looks for an e-mail address.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭whatsthetime


    Just before xmas I paid for a Coast dress in a store using my card. Since then when I am logged onto facebook etc, a lot of adverts for similar products appear.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    Just before xmas I paid for a Coast dress in a store using my card. Since then when I am logged onto facebook etc, a lot of adverts for similar products appear.
    Adblock plus should take care of a lot of that. Ghostery is good also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    If you've downloaded Angry Birds then your privacy has more than likely been invaded. Seems British and USA intelligence have been using apps to gather info on people.

    When you walk into Spar, they are "gathering info on you", when you walk through an airport, they are "gathering info".. when you go on the net, your ISP is "gathering info"..

    Your privacy is constantly being invaded


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭whatsthetime


    shedweller wrote: »
    Adblock plus should take care of a lot of that. Ghostery is good also.

    That will block the advert. But how did they make the link between my card and my Google log in? There is a lot of sharing of data going on methinks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    I hate getting spam texts but it's just generally an annoyance because I think it;s a real text - I don;t really over think the privacy thing.

    Similarly while I agree that privacy re: my data is a good thing, I don't kid myself that anybody gives a shit about my browsing habits or conversations which I'm sure are replicated millionfold worldwide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭SamAK


    The constitution does no specifically imply a right to privacy.

    The legal definition of privacy is a person's right to control access to his/her personal information.

    A few things I have done over the last while as a result of(among other things) my concerns about privacy - Quit facebook, got rid of my smartphone, installed AdBlock Plus, use DuckDuckGo instead of Google, and regularly use CCleaner to delete tracking cookies.

    No idea if any of this has much of an effect, but I definitely feel more 'free'.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    MadsL wrote: »
    If I know for a fact that a company that I provided personal information to for a specific purpose then passes that information to their brain-dead marketing department and uses it to market to me without my consent, that is not paranoia nor having little to think about, it is pure and simple a breach of the law, both Irish and EU law in fact.

    And Spam harmless? Spam adds a $20 bn cost to society. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/08/cost-of-spam_n_1757726.html

    Contact details! Good God you would have been mortified when all we had were landlines and our names addresses and numbers were published in a big book delivered free to every house in the country. Oh I feel so violated now just thinking about it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,044 ✭✭✭Wabbit Ears


    data privicy is a myth, you dont have it and you never did. Get over it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    data privicy is a myth, you dont have it and you never did. Get over it.
    That is true. If you buy online etc then your details are there too. But you can still take steps to cut it down. I think firefox has an auto cookie destruct thing but i dont know how effective it is. Not an IT kinda guy y'see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,485 ✭✭✭Archeron


    Muise... wrote: »
    How personal? I don't regard my contact details or purchases as private as I would my conversations with trusted friends, my pillow book, my knicker drawer.

    What kind of conversations do you have with your knicker drawer? I occasionally talk to my boxers, but it rarely goes beyond me kicking them off while saying begone foul demons.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Archeron wrote: »
    What kind of conversations do you have with your knicker drawer? I occasionally talk to my boxers, but it rarely goes beyond me kicking them off while saying begone foul demons.

    :pac:

    My silks are spun with unspeakable secrets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    MadsL wrote: »

    So have you experienced sloppy Data Protection practices from Irish companies?

    In one of the "talk to" forums here on boards, a mobile provide asked me for my login details via PM so they could log in and check the problem I was having.

    Needless to say, I declined, and immediately switched providers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Contact details! Good God you would have been mortified when all we had were landlines and our names addresses and numbers were published in a big book delivered free to every house in the country. Oh I feel so violated now just thinking about it!

    Don't you think there is a right to say no? Just as there used to be a right NOT to be in the big book.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    MadsL wrote: »
    Don't you think there is a right to say no? Just as there used to be a right NOT to be in the big book.

    Don't you think life must be good if this particular molehill has grown to such proportions?
    The day I fret about spam mail being an invasion of my privacy is the day I get the grandkids to book me in for a paranoia check or sign me up for evening classes to pass my time with something productive. But that's just me.
    We all look at things differently. We all let different things annoy us. But you asked. I gave my opinion, my honest assessment of the issue in my life. So don't keep questioning me on my remarks or trying to argue my feelings on it down to yours. That defeats the purpose of either polling on the issue or asking our opinions in the first place.

    Oh, and I can remember well when there was no ex-directory option.


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