The Claims of Mr X : For your Consideration.

HandoLogan

I spoke to someone yesterday that I have not seen since 1996. I met him at the Barbican in London, he was an Inventor and I was an inventor and we were both displaying products, i then met him a few months later at the Southampton Science fair and we went out for a few beers.
So he worked in electronics and when I met him yesterday he told me something that I could never imagine and still cant believe it but it does seem true as I did a couple of searches and thing are happening as he told me, anyway here is the conversation roughly how it went.
Hi how's things not saw you for ages what are you doing ( I'm going to call him X so you know when he was talking)
X : doing ok keeping busy.
Me: where are you working then.
X: I work in R& D developing the latest smart meters.
Me: I've heard about them you run out of milk and your fridge orders you another pint from Tesco's.
X: that's what they want you to think, i suppose if Tesco's want to do that then they can but the power companies have not invested £3.5 billion to make Tesco's money.
Me: So what is the point of them.
X: people are moaning about their electric bills just now but they would give anything to get back to what they are paying now two years from now.
Me How.
X: I was involved in a meeting and the Chairman said its 316 miles from Birmingham to Scotland and people are moaning that it costs £60 to fill the tank full of gas. Ok so let them walk, I guarantee that after walking the first 16 miles and 300 miles in front of them they would gladly pay £60 they would gladly pay £600 rather than walk that 300 miles and would have a smile on their face as they paid you for it.
And that's where we come in, we produce power and at peak times we need more staff and have to produce more power to meet demand, what we want to do is make more profit and reduce staff and balance the usage out over 24 hours.

Since the dawn of history the Negro has owned the continent of Africa – rich beyond the dream of poet’s fancy, crunching acres of diamonds beneath his bare black feet and yet he never picked one up from the dust until a white man showed to him its glittering light.
His land swarmed with powerful and docile animals, yet he never dreamed a harness, cart, or sled.
A hunter by necessity, he never made an axe, spear, or arrowhead worth preserving beyond the moment of its use. He lived as an ox, content to graze for an hour.
In a land of stone and timber he never sawed a foot of lumber, carved a block, or built a house save of broken sticks and mud.
With league on league of ocean strand and miles of inland seas, for four thousand years he watched their surface ripple under the wind, heard the thunder of the surf on his beach, the howl of the storm over his head, gazed on the dim blue horizon calling him to worlds that lie beyond, and yet he never dreamed a sail.” ~ Charles Darwin
X: are you sure you want to hear this.
Me: yes
X@ ok so this guy goes on to speak, Our next stage will be to charge per appliance, if you run a fridge then you cant be expected to turn it off at 5 pm to 9pm so that will be just a few pence more in peak time, but a Playstation or x box or tv or charging your phone or on pc or laptop will be classed as luxury items and will cost a fee ( thats right a fee) if you use your laptop between 5pm and 9pm you will pay a fee plus the peak hour tarriff, so people will either sit looking at their fridge between 5pm till 9pm or pay for the privilage of using tv computers.
Molbile phone companies have off peak and on peak, trains have off peak and on peak, car parks have of peak and on peak every company charges off peak and on peak at busiest times, Christmas, Easter will have dearer tarriffs.
The R&D section will be split up and we want a deadicated team to work on controling appliancs through the S M (smart meter).
Our operators must have control of all appliances used in the property from their workstation.
For example if someone owes us £200 and is paying back £2 a week plus their present usage, then the operator can turn off the heating on a cold night forcing the householder to phone (the premium line) the operator can say " your allocation has been reached and so you don't fall further behind we can accept a payment of £50 now by debit card to restore that item, It could be £20 for a PS3 £14.50 for a Tv or Laptop.
If they don't pay they don't use.
We want Section 7 to concentrate on voice warning, if the line manager has a look at someones account and say we want them to pay another £15 per week, the operator will look at usage habits and if say at 6.35 pm everynight a user goes on his laptop and it is 6.20pm then the laptop will be blocked from connecting to the supply, the operator knows that this user will phone them within 15 mins, thats why we need to work on voice notification, so the user knows its not a fault and we have blocked it.
Your Group manager will show you what we want to achieve and timescale.
Any questions.
How will you get a way with this, people will just refuse to have them installed, new legislation will be brought in making it an act of terrorism to interfere with any work carried out by a power company and will be treated as saboutage.
But will schools not need to shut because they cant afford to heat the school' No No each school bill will be marked with NI (national interest) the same for police, army, hospitals etc. individuals such as lawyers, teachers, doctors, policemen, judges , social workers ,Mps of course will be exempt and I am pleased to say all power company employees, because they are NI tagged.
Each area will have a director who will be able to stamp any account as NI.
What about Children or the disabled, I understand that this issue has been decided on and Government will pay direct just as they pay directly to the BBC for licences for the over 75s for children, disabled people will be no different to anyone else, in fact the children payment is to be linked to attendance at school and unemployed who refuse to do community work will lose their credit, so an unemployed person with children will need to make sure he does unpaid work and his children don't miss school to maintain his NI stamp.
When will it come in, we are hoping by the end of 2014 start of 2015; we will have good press as we take on unemployed people for installation door to door contact etc. We expect the SMs to have all trials finished by May 2014.

That was what X told me, he said check it out' my company has been planning this since 2008 and nothing about it is in the media.
He said check Canada they are streets ahead of everyone.
I said that's immoral' he says I know but I have a family and bills to pay and there is not must 1 pesrson can do, I can't say that cant be done electronically, they will just sack me and employ someone else, and anyway they know it can be done because Canada has already started.
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I found these 2 links and I was dumbfounded this is actually happening they are going to charge per appliance,

www.ontarioenergyboard.ca...
www.nytimes.com...

We are going to start charging per hour for electricity it will cost you 10 times as much to use power at 5 pm as it will at 5 am.
We will start by rationing power and have power cuts at peak times saying the demand is to much, we will have the press blame it on the unemployed (thats right) the unemployed will get the blame, we will say we cant meet the demand and people at home all day could do their washing at 12 noon or pre cook meals at 1pm, in fact why dont unemployed eat at 9 pm at night as thats what time most europeans eat,
We will blame the high prices are because unemployed people are causing the demand, people will blame the jobless saying if they can afford to run their electricity at peak times they are getting to much benefit etc.
We plan to make the cheapest hours in the daytime between 10am and 2 pm this way working people will moan that they sit at home watching daytime tv on the cheap when we get home we have to pay peak prices.
THEY WILL BLAME PEOPLE AT HOME ALL DAY FOR THE CRISIS and we will not have to do anything, they might even blame the disabled saying that charging motability scooters etc at inappropriate hours are to blame.
We have to create the image that the power companies have had no choice that it was the workshy and feckless who created this situation, it will be accepted without much protest as the thought is already been planted with articles in media on the unemployed sitting at home all day watching wide screen tv and Sky.
Once this has been excepted we can begin with the second stage and this is where you come in gentlemen ( speaking to electronic experts in the room)
Me Fck sake robbing Baskets.
X: wait a minute, it gets worse a lot worse.

tracey turnblad

Then you got in your time machine and flew back to 2014

Realt Dearg Sec

Was there a reason he went off on a rant about "negroes" in the middle of the conversation then went back to what he was actually saying?

DamagedTrax

i dont see a 'rant' about negroes?

i see a darwin quote used in context to show exactly what the white man is capable of on a worldwide scale.

interesting read OP, thanks.

ArmaniJeanss

This seems to be just a complete c&p from this thread

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread993225/pg1

Realt Dearg Sec

DamagedTrax wrote: »

i dont see a 'rant' about negroes?

i see a darwin quote used in context to show exactly what the white man is capable of on a worldwide scale.

interesting read OP, thanks.

In context? How?

HandoLogan

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

This seems to be just a complete c&p from this thread

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread993225/pg1

Really! You read this article and that's what you took away from it, does it really matter where the article comes from, it's the content that really matters here.
We are a people who are about to be forced into debt slavery when the water charges are introduced next year, if you think for one minute that the above seems highly unlikely than surprises are in store.

Sonics2k

HandoLogan wrote: »

Really! You read this article and that's what you took away from it, does it really matter where the article comes from, it's the content that really matters here.
We are a people who are about to be forced into debt slavery when the water charges are introduced next year, if you think for one minute that the above seems highly unlikely than surprises are in store.

You literally just ripped the entire thing off from another site, no links, no references or anything.

Plagiarism basically.

Tzar Chasm

not quite, the OP also slotted in a paragraph bemoaning the entire continent of africa's lack of adventurous spirit and easy going ways.

Says I To Bridey

Interesting reading, but I don't see it happening. For one you'd need every electronic appliance in your house to be monitored, which isn't feasible. Secondly, cheap energy is what makes the world of modern society go round.

For a more realistic and scary scenario, have a look at Enron and what their Energy division did to California when manipulating their energy prices. With the proposed privatization of the ESB and Irish electricity network its something to keep in mind. This was a good documentary on it
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/enron-the-smartest-guys-in-the-room/

It ended up costing California $40-45 billion dollars. I know you can't keep things in the news forever, but I don't know how more people aren't aware of the **** they got up to

Tzar Chasm

its not that far fetched tho.


initially they get people tovoluntarilly install adaptors on their plugs which monitor the power usage of key devices in the home via the new smartmeters, this informaion can be relayed to the power company at regular intervals so they can build up a profile of your usage and design a tarrif system that best screws you, after they have the initial legwork done they make it more expensive to not have a smart meter, stuf like extra charges to have your meter read and a default setting of teh highest tarrif for anyone without these gizmos, then as we buy new appliances and build new houses the technology starts to become ingrained

Says I To Bridey

But the end result of that is people use less electricity and turn to alternative, cheaper means, or look at producing some of their power needs themselves with solar panels, collecting rainwater, maybe stuff like a community wind turbine

mickdw

Power wouldnt need to get too much more expensive before it becomes worthwhile for householders to produce own power on a grand scale.

ted1

All this is common knowledge. At the moment companies are already doing this. They have 7 Tariffs throughout the day. Some even buy electricity using the spot/ pool price.

Is there a point to your rant ?

CountyHurler

Was X played by Donald Sutherland again?

Absolam

No only the first time. In the second one they had Kiefer Sutherland as the younger, angrier X.

I am pie

The idea that power companies will know that laptop and not a lamp or radio is at the end of that power cable is completely risible.

I like, heard, that facebook are gonna start charging too and that onions can kill you...