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Have planning, what next?

  • 25-01-2014 11:13am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12


    I have planning for a 2400 square foot 2 storey house which runs out in November so I'd like to get a good start on the house so I can extend the planning permission to finish it next year.

    But where do I start?

    I have the basic plans which aren't good for much so obviously I'll need to get detailed drawings.

    Do I go to an architectural technician to do these? And would I then take these drawings to an engineer to sign off on them and design the foundations

    I also would like to get going in time to beat the new building control regs.

    Thanks in advance


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭4Sticks


    Dick Jones wrote: »
    I also would like to get going in time to beat the new building control regs.

    LMAO-(Literally)-T-Shirts.jpg


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    4sticks, if I don't feel like helping an OP, I don't bother posting..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭4Sticks


    25 working days to go till the new regs kick in. Seems a tad unfeasible to "beat" that. Don't you think?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Dick Jones wrote: »
    I have planning for a 2400 square foot 2 storey house which runs out in November so I'd like to get a good start on the house so I can extend the planning permission to finish it next year.

    But where do I start?

    I have the basic plans which aren't good for much so obviously I'll need to get detailed drawings.

    Do I go to an architectural technician to do these? And would I then take these drawings to an engineer to sign off on them and design the foundations

    I also would like to get going in time to beat the new building control regs.

    Thanks in advance

    You need to engage an engineer or architect for the construction stage.
    Get tenders in.
    Lodge commencement notice to your LA.
    Start work.

    All in all, I don't think you will be ready to beat the new control regulations.
    Either way, if I was building a new house nowadays, I'd class these new regs as a blessing. I have assurance from the start that the professionals are on board and will be active during my build.

    Why people feel the need to duck and I've from them is beyond me, it's like trying to dodge the NCT on your car, it's your car at the end of the day so you want it to perform to its best for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭4Sticks


    kceire wrote: »
    Why people feel the need to duck and I've from them is beyond me, it's like trying to dodge the NCT on your car, it's your car at the end of the day so you want it to perform to its best for you.

    Snap. Well said.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 Dick Jones


    From reading the forums it was my understanding that once I've submitted the commencement notice before 1st of march then the old building control regs apply.

    As for my reasons of avoiding them. Increased cost has been mentioned as one. Another would be me wanting to do whatever works I could using my limited skills along with those of friends and family.

    For example, within 28 days of issuing the commencement notice I'd planned to strip the site.

    As for picking engineer or architect. Would the engineer be a better choice. I believe one would be needed to sign off on the foundations and walls but would the engineer be fit for detailed drawings and ber, etc. Or would a combination of AT and engineer be best?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭4Sticks


    Dick Jones wrote: »
    As for my reasons of avoiding them. Increased cost has been mentioned as one.

    You would not be paying something for nothing you know. The new regulations will bind your designer to producing detailed documentation to demonstrate compliance with building regulations. Documents which would also form a good basis for inviting competitive tenders from builders.
    Dick Jones wrote: »
    Another would be me wanting to do whatever works I could using my limited skills along with those of friends and family.

    Why would anyone choose to house themselves like this? The most expensive outlay in your life. Would you choose your transport , healthcare or your kids education in a similar manner ?

    Again the increased cost you are shying away from would not be spending money on nothing. Your certifier will be bound by some pretty onerous statutory requirements to ensure that you comply with building regulations and that you actually get in reality the quality of build you would wish for in aspiration. I believe that in avoiding the new legislation you would be making a massive mistake a classic false economy.

    Even if you dismiss this the current commencement notice requires the name of a builder and the name of a designer. 5 weeks is not enough time to be satisfied you have sourced the best possible options.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭BarryM3


    Got my Full Grant on Jan 20th and submitted CN today. I'm going self build so I didn't have to tender for contractor which admittedly saved time but other than that it was pretty painless to do in that time frame.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    BarryM3 wrote: »
    Got my Full Grant on Jan 20th and submitted CN today. I'm going self build so I didn't have to tender for contractor which admittedly saved time but other than that it was pretty painless to do in that time frame.

    In fairness, if you are going self build then you can collect your Final Grant from the post box, walk out the door to your local LA and lodge CN there and then. Its not a difficult form and doesnt require much.

    That will change 1st March though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭BarryM3


    Yes, just thought it was worth informing the OP of the other side to the 'LMAO' coin so to speak ;)


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    BarryM3 wrote: »
    Yes, just thought it was worth informing the OP of the other side to the 'LMAO' coin so to speak ;)

    Sorry, I don't get it :confused:


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