Calving Alert System

pajero12

Lads & Lasses,
Whats your opinion of this set up? looks a top job!
Calving Alert System

P.S Should clarify that I am in no way associated with this product.

49801

Impractical and expensive

delaval

pajero12 wrote: »

Lads & Lasses,
Whats your opinion of this set up? looks a top job!
Calving Alert System

P.S Should clarify that I am in no way associated with this product.

Jesus salesmen would think of anything to get money out of a farmer.

How would you know which cow to use it on?

pajero12

49801 wrote: »

Impractical and expensive

Care to elaborate on your opinion?

delaval wrote: »

Jesus salesmen would think of anything to get money out of a farmer.

How would you know which cow to use it on?

I take it there isn't a limit on the number of thermometers linked...So I assume as many as you like?

delaval

It says it alerts you when the water bag is out, would you not see this?

I could see this with few cows calving or very spread calving.

Couldn't imagine it being much use on 150 cow herd with compact calving

49801

For starters you have to handle animals 10 days before calving.
Creating extra work.
Not a great idea to be putting cattle through a crush and stressing them at that stage even if they do fit through and I suspect many would not fit.

http://www.fwi.co.uk/articles/22/10/2013/141651/latest-high-tech-solutions-for-precision-livestock-farming.htm

pajero12

delaval wrote: »

It says it alerts you when the water bag is out, would you not see this?

I could see this with few cows calving or very spread calving.

Couldn't imagine it being much use on 150 cow herd with compact calving

I can see where your coming from, I imagine it would be aimed more towards the part time farmer or lads not in the yard all the time! Doing some reading up on it, I see the base station can be used for heat detection too!

Genghis Cant

Any idea of costs lads?

Hugh 2

49801 wrote: »

Impractical and expensive

A simplar sidea -- forget recording temperature --put a device in that would set off an alarm when it is pushed out during calving

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could have a string attached to tail that would prevent it being lost ...LOL

Genghis Cant

Hugh 2 wrote: »

A simplar sidea -- forget recording temperature --put a device in that would set off an alarm when it is pushed out during calving

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could have a string attached to tail that would prevent it being lost ...LOL

It already exists!

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/see-us-millstreet-fintona-cavan-shows/5958912

bbam

€10 a cow.
So if I just want to watch 6 cows the whole thing costs €60, somehow I think it's a load of trype.

Just because someone invents something doesn't mean there's a market for it.

Genghis Cant

Didn't some oul lad have an Ass that kicked up an awful racket when a cow would put out the waterbag in the pen beside him?
Maybe we should all buy an Ass.

Hugh 2

Genghis Cant wrote: »

It already exists!

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/see-us-millstreet-fintona-cavan-shows/5958912

Wow it does exist? LOL

moy83

Genghis Cant wrote: »

Didn't some oul lad have an Ass that kicked up an awful racket when a cow would put out the waterbag in the pen beside him?
Maybe we should all buy an Ass.

I know a dairy farmer that swears by the ass to alert him when there is a cow calving .

adne

Junk idea, any farmer worth his salt can surely tell within 12 hours of calving without needing to get a text message.

onyerbikepat

Would a calving camera with internet access not be a better investment? I put mine up for 250 Euro.

blackdog1

When I was a student I used to work on a farm where he fed all the drycows at night about 7pm and nothing during the day. Had very few nightime calvings.

RobertKK

adne wrote: »

Junk idea, any farmer worth his salt can surely tell within 12 hours of calving without needing to get a text message.

Yeah, agree totally, initial check is udder and you see a springing, then monitor the pin bones and you can't go far wrong and you have more money in the bank.

TCDStudent1

adne wrote: »

Junk idea, any farmer worth his salt can surely tell within 12 hours of calving without needing to get a text message.

The problem is if a cow calves prematurely and the farmer is not paying attention to that cow because he simply doesnt think there is any need to

Farrell

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

The problem is if a cow calves prematurely and the farmer is not paying attention to that cow because he simply doesnt think there is any need to

What about heat-time would it be any good?

delaval

A good electric blanket and an insulated coffee mpg for morning time would be a wiser investment

blackdog1

Farrell wrote: »

What about heat-time would it be any good?

They have a rumination system out but don't know if it would work on calving cows....would a cows rumination drop before calving??

The one I have the cows have to pass under a reader so unless it was wireless it wouldn't work. Can't be bringing dry cows in under a scanner.

Best bet is feed dry cow diet at 7. Walk behind them when their eating and check their pins , sides etc. Should have a good idea then.

hugo29

moy83 wrote: »

I know a dairy farmer that swears by the ass to alert him when there is a cow calving .

Would that be ED the talking horse,

onyerbikepat

hugo29 wrote: »

Would that be ED the talking horse,

I'm reading that and thinking what the hell is E.D.

Farrell

blackdog1 wrote: »

They have a rumination system out but don't know if it would work on calving cows....would a cows rumination drop before calving??

The one I have the cows have to pass under a reader so unless it was wireless it wouldn't work. Can't be bringing dry cows in under a scanner.

Best bet is feed dry cow diet at 7. Walk behind them when their eating and check their pins , sides etc. Should have a good idea then.

Don't have 1, can't afford just yet.
I think it was wireless
Progressive were pushing it, saying it highlights activity, high meaning in heat & low meaning sick.
Actually they mentioned picked up heifers down the field.
Can you upgrade?

hugo29

onyerbikepat wrote: »

I'm reading that and thinking what the hell is E.D.

Kids programme of about 30 years ago:eek:

49801

adne wrote: »

Junk idea, any farmer worth his salt can surely tell within 12 hours of calving without needing to get a text message.

So you a cow calves with out you noticing?... Accidents do happen and cows progress a different rates.

Mad4simmental

]The problem is if a cow calves prematurely and the farmer is not paying attention to that cow because he simply doesnt think there is any need to


But you can only put it in about 3 weeks before calving and as previcoly said it's not exactly ideal to be handling cows that close to calving. I thought it was good at first but the more you think about it I reckon there is more cons than prows IMO.

adne

49801 wrote: »

So you a cow calves with out you noticing?... Accidents do happen and cows progress a different rates.

No, a few always slip by, you cant cover all bases, however For example from a herd of 100 cows how many would you expect to calve prematurely?
I just think there is wiser ways to spend money on a farm and this is not one of them.

TCDStudent1

Mad4simmental wrote: »

]The problem is if a cow calves prematurely and the farmer is not paying attention to that cow because he simply doesnt think there is any need to


But you can only put it in about 3 weeks before calving and as previcoly said it's not exactly ideal to be handling cows that close to calving. I thought it was good at first but the more you think about it I reckon there is more cons than prows IMO.

I think the idea is generally a good one. But I agree about the difficult practicalities of it. A product to tell you when a cow begins calving would be useful to almost every farmer. Good farmers could manage their time better with such a device, while careless farmers will treat their cows better and be able to tend them while they are calving!

blackdog1

Farrell wrote: »

Don't have 1, can't afford just yet.
I think it was wireless
Progressive were pushing it, saying it highlights activity, high meaning in heat & low meaning sick.
Actually they mentioned picked up heifers down the field.
Can you upgrade?

Yea new one seems great but im happy with the older system. Heifers are easy now because thats all I have to look at seeing as cows all have a collar. Can't upgrade as totally different computer... pity . Wouldn't do without it though, heat detection was a problem with holsteins and tail paint is only good when you keep at it and watch them very carefully

delaval

Wouldn't do without it though, heat detection was a problem with holsteins and tail paint is only good when you keep at it and watch them very carefully

Are you sure that observation wasn't the problem?

Tomjim

if you knew had a cow that was going to calve in the next couple of days and you took her temperature (normal tempature had changed) would this be a good indication that she was to calve in say the next 12 hours?

Sam Kade

moy83 wrote: »

I know a dairy farmer that swears by the ass to alert him when there is a cow calving .

Is that the one where his wife watches the calving camera and pinches him in the ass when a cow starts calving to alert him