Falling tree across from my house

CountyHurler

Hi there,

Sorry if this is in the wrong forum.

Across the road from my house, on the public road, there is a tree precariously leaning against another... It looks like it's gonna fall over and would most likely land on the public road... The guy who owns the land said that he was gonna sort it out but he hasnt got around to it, and tbh I dont fancy letting him at it as he'll probably knock it down on some unsuspecting driver..

Here's a picture.



Should I call the council about this?

thanks,

Reggie.

I'd inform the council. At least they may do something as it is a possible danger to motorists

Nekarsulm

Ring the council, they are currently sending out letters to land owners about overgrown hedges.



"and tbh I dont fancy letting him at it"

I am intrigued as to how you think you have any authority over the landowner, he doesn't need your permission to proceed . Just put a good hawser high up and pull it back into the field, or get a guy with a winch.

CountyHurler

Nekarsulm wrote: »

I am intrigued as to how you think you have any authority over the landowner, he doesn't need your permission to proceed . Just put a good hawser high up and pull it back into the field, or get a guy with a winch.

Well there's no need to be "intrigued".. He certainly doesnt need my permission, but my concern is more about his capability to carry out the job without hurting himself or somebody else.. He had planned on taking it down by attaching a rope to it and pulling it with a dumper. He blew up a paint compressor last week!!

Seriously though, is it the council I ring, or would the ESB (as it is near their wires too) be better?

SamAK

The council boyo's would be delighted to come and take it away, free firewood for them!

Justjens

And you waited until a Friday afternoon to do anything? May as well wait 'till Monday now, then ring the council, just hope the storm tomorrow doesn't save them a job, they'll contact the ESB.

And if your local council boys are anything like the ones around here, had to lift one up in the digger bucket to cut a hanging tree, you might not fancy 'letting them at it' either.

tabby aspreme

Tell the council asap , when they are informed of a dangerous tree its there responsibility to have it dealt with , if they don't they can be liable for any damage it may cause,
The owner of that tree is stupid not to get rid of it , a few years back a local girl was badly injured when a dodgy tree fell on her car , the farm the tree grew on has since been sold to pay compensation

rancher

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Tell the council asap , when they are informed of a dangerous tree its there responsibility to have it dealt with , if they don't they can be liable for any damage it may cause,
The owner of that tree is stupid not to get rid of it , a few years back a local girl was badly injured when a dodgy tree fell on her car , the farm the tree grew on has since been sold to pay compensation

A girl was killed by a tree falling on her car near here a few weeks ago, it won't take much for the tree in the picture to come down.

Reggie.

rancher wrote: »

A girl was killed by a tree falling on her car near here a few weeks ago, it won't take much for the tree in the picture to come down.

some funeral that

rancher

Reggie. wrote: »

some funeral that

was the car stopped or did she drive into it

Reggie.

rancher wrote: »

was the car stopped or did she drive into it

it fell square on the roof while she drove by, what are the odds

Masseymad

im just saying now that if a tree falls of someones land then its no longer their responsability

ganmo

Inform the council, they can either cut it themselves, get a crew in or tell the farmer to do it.
In the end the owner of the land that the tree is growing out of has the ownership of that tree and the responsibility.

ps. no matter who cuts it, the land owner still owns the wood

rancher

Reggie. wrote: »

it fell square on the roof while she drove by, what are the odds

In a meeting with the council today to discuss what we can do to make farmers be more responsible, 27 trees came down on the roads in the county that night and 16 on St. Stephens night, how was there not more accidents.
That's 43 trees....how many are loosened in the ground ready for another storm next friday

Reggie.

rancher wrote: »

In a meeting with the council today to discuss what we can do to make farmers be more responsible, 27 trees came down on the roads in the county that night and 16 on St. Stephens night, how was there not more accidents.
That's 43 trees....how many are loosened in the ground ready for another storm next friday

yeah, noticed that alot of trees getting felled around mullingar since christmas

ppn

Can anyone tell me what the situation is where trees from your land fall into a neighbours field? No property damage done just a field full of trees/branches? Who owns the timber from these and who is responsible for clearing the mess?

Thanks

Nekarsulm

your tree, your responsibility. Depending on how much of your tree is in his field, you could ask if he wants that portion for firewood. But you will be responsible for repairing the wire/fence that the tree flattened, and removing the light branches etc.

moy83

CountyHurler wrote: »

Hi there,

Sorry if this is in the wrong forum.

Across the road from my house, on the public road, there is a tree precariously leaning against another... It looks like it's gonna fall over and would most likely land on the public road... The guy who owns the land said that he was gonna sort it out but he hasnt got around to it, and tbh I dont fancy letting him at it as he'll probably knock it down on some unsuspecting driver..

Here's a picture.



Should I call the council about this?

thanks,

How did you get on with the tree County Hurler ?

Zr105

ppn wrote: »

Can anyone tell me what the situation is where trees from your land fall into a neighbours field? No property damage done just a field full of trees/branches? Who owns the timber from these and who is responsible for clearing the mess?

Thanks

Is it not the case that if it is on a boundary ditch it belongs to the owner of the land in which it falls? Thats certainly always been the case around this way

ganmo

ppn wrote: »

Can anyone tell me what the situation is where trees from your land fall into a neighbours field? No property damage done just a field full of trees/branches? Who owns the timber from these and who is responsible for clearing the mess?

Thanks

Who ever owns the ground the plant grows out of owns the product of that plant
The responsibility to clear it is theirs but as he needs your permission to enter your property to clear it there needs to be a bit of understanding on both sides

Floody Boreland

ganmo wrote: »

Who ever owns the ground the plant grows out of owns the product of that plant
The responsibility to clear it is theirs but as he needs your permission to enter your property to clear it there needs to be a bit of understanding on both sides

Is a landowner not legally entitled to cut branches overhanging his property?

on the river

the esb men will cut that tree down safely or contact the fire bridage they could do it either

ganmo

Floody Boreland wrote: »

Is a landowner not legally entitled to cut branches overhanging his property?

They're responsible for ensuring that the trees on their property won't cause damage. So cutting down rotten trees and some dangerous limbs.
If you do decide to cut an overhanging branch without permission there might be a case of destruction of property and theft if you take the timber away(that's the legality of it, good look gettin the Gaurds interested)

Ps I am not in the legal profession or related field, just speaking from experience. Pm me if you want the details of the stories

ppn

Zr105 wrote: »

Is it not the case that if it is on a boundary ditch it belongs to the owner of the land in which it falls? Thats certainly always been the case around this way

The trees in question are not on a boundary ditch as there is fencing beyond them but because of the size of them and the fact that they have been completely uprooted, they have fallen into the neighbouring farmland.

Nekarsulm

If there is a big root and a lot of clay attached, be careful cutting the top off it, for example at the boundary line, as it could stand up again. You wouldn't want anyone near/ standing under/ the root if that happened.

Farmer Pudsey

Floody Boreland wrote: »

Is a landowner not legally entitled to cut branches overhanging his property?

Yes a landowner is entitled to cut any branches etc that overhand his property. He is allowed to cut at the point they overhand his property. However he is obliged to return any branches/timber to the owner of he property where the trees grow.

There is a question of whether he can charge the tree owner for the cost of doing this

CountyHurler

moy83 wrote: »

How did you get on with the tree County Hurler ?

Sorry lads, meant to get back and let ye know how I got on... The day after the last post on the thread I came home and found that the neighbour had it down.. He did a pretty good job, so I ended up having to do nothing at all.

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