Reference request - before job offer

finisklin

Has anyone experience of this?

Can employers contact references and use the responses as part of the candidate interview/screening process? Potentially then basing selection on the response and either offering/not offering the job.

helimachoptor

finisklin wrote: »

Has anyone experience of this?

Can employers contact references and use the responses as part of the candidate interview/screening process? Potentially then basing selection on the response and either offering/not offering the job.

of course.. why would you offer a job to someone you hadnt ref checked?

5p9arw38djv2b4

Are they asking for referee details or an actual reference? Often jobs ask for referee details but you can refuse to give them until you have an offer, or you can state that you do not want referees contacted until after an offer is made (I include this as a line in my CV)

finisklin

The employer has requested the reference but not offered you the job......

Normally the employer makes a job offer with proposed terms and conditions of employment with the caveat that your references are sound/stack up.

wexie

finisklin wrote: »

Has anyone experience of this?

Can employers contact references and use the responses as part of the candidate interview/screening process? Potentially then basing selection on the response and either offering/not offering the job.

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errr......

Is that not kind of the point of references?

finisklin

LadyLabyrinth wrote: »

Are they asking for referee details or an actual reference? Often jobs ask for referee details but you can refuse to give them until you have an offer, or you can state that you do not want referees contacted until after an offer is made (I include this as a line in my CV)

It was referees that were requested with a view to getting a reference.

I do like your approach though.

sawdoubters

he should check refrences before the interview so don't give your currant employer

Oops69

I've lost the will to live reading this .

finisklin

wexie wrote: »

......

errr......

Is that not kind of the point of references?

There was no job offer and other candidates to interview.

Mrs OBumble

finisklin wrote: »

Normally the employer makes a job offer with proposed terms and conditions of employment with the caveat that your references are sound/stack up.

It has never happeend to me like that. And I've been working for 25+ year (urgh .. just realised that's now 30 ) and had a variety of jobs.

Eoin

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

It has never happeend to me like that.

That's how it's always worked for me. Our HR dept wouldn't do a reference check until we've made an offer.

starlit

It happened to me after an interview, they asked for referees but didn't get job offer.

Usually online forms you fill in referees but if its just a CV application they usually wouldn't ask for a referee unless they seriously considering you for a second interview or a job offer or final list of potential candidates might just be a case of checking up each candidate before offering the job.

Mrs OBumble

Eoin wrote: »

That's how it's always worked for me. Our HR dept wouldn't do a reference check until we've made an offer.

So how does the employee know that it's safe form them to resign from their current job, because the new job offer is definite rather than provisional?

1huge1

Guess everyone has had different experiences. I've only ever been asked for references once an offer has been made.

Eoin

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

So how does the employee know that it's safe form them to resign from their current job, because the new job offer is definite rather than provisional?

Last 2 times, I got a reference from someone who wasn't my line manager, so was able to have everything signed & dotted before I resigned. The same question would apply though if reference checks were done before a job offer was made.

Outkast_IRE

I have heard of verbal job offers being given, with the proviso that the formal written offer will be issued pending successful reference checks.

But to be fair a verbal offer isn't worth anything really.