Decisions: Volvo S80 D5 or Lexus IS220

bidiots

So oh mighty forum, please help me with my decision, pro's and con's for either would be a great help

Either something like this: Volvo S80 2.4 D

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volvo/S80/D5-AWD-S/37113797819253010/advert?channel=CARS

or something like this: Lexus IS 220
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Lexus/IS220/IS220d-E/36313874622640580/advert?channel=CARS

I haven't driven the S80 yet but have had a drive in the Lexus. Only issue I have with the Lexus is I find it a bit 'cramped' for some reason. But if there are obvious differences that I am unaware of, please let me know

Thanks

Supergurrier

Volvo all day erry day.

More comfort
More engine
More refinement
More spec
More 4wd

bazz26

Volvo all day too, it's got an extra cylinder for superior refinement, is more reliable and doesn't have the crap power delivery and gearing of the IS220.

kerten

Agreed with previous posters as a IS250 auto owner. Different type of cars too.

jimgoose

Volvo. No-brainer.

JJJJNR

Are all s80 2.4D's 4wd..

bazz26

Nope.

ZiabR

Volvo!

keithclancy

The Volvo ...

But that AD is terrible

Tea 1000

The Volvo is more comfortable, better engine, bigger car. But it is dull to drive. The IS has a better chassis and better steering, but is small enough inside and the engine and gearbox don't belong together.

Oafley Jones

Love my IS250, but I wouldn't touch a 220D. Also, the IS the same segment as an S40.

Kintarō Hattori

Well that's pretty resounding OP.

R.O.R

JJJJNR wrote: »

Are all s80 2.4D's 4wd..

I don't think the one linked in the OP is either.....Mis-decribed in the ad I'd say.

Not sure which version of the D5 engine that would be - probably 184bhp at that stage, which I think is single turbo.

S80 would be a fantastic cruiser, with massive amounts of torque on tap when required. IS would be more fun to drive, as long as you can find the right gear for the engine.

bazz26

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Love my IS250, but I wouldn't touch a 220D. Also, the IS the same segment as an S40.

S60 was more a rival to the IS in size. S40 is smaller again and more of a rival to the A3/1 Series.

bidiots

bazz26 wrote: »

S60 was more a rival to the IS in size. S40 is smaller again and more of a rival to the A3/1 Series.

Thanks for the feedback guys... looking like the Volvo is the obvious choice.

I'm trying to find a decent car with all the toys but they are hard to find, I'm not sure what year the facelift came out either, 08 or 09....jesus

JJJJNR

bidiots wrote: »

Thanks for the feedback guys... looking like the Volvo is the obvious choice.

I'm trying to find a decent car with all the toys but they are hard to find, I'm not sure what year the facelift came out either, 08 or 09....jesus

The volvo is gone already must have been good.

colm_mcm

Volvo (as if another &1 is needed)
Its more that the IS isn't a great package

bear1

Btw, that IS is so far overpriced it's a joke.
12k for a 7 year old car, on DD I was seeing 2006/07 IS's for 6/7k.
I have a thread also where I linked the IS and even though it's spec is impressive to say the least, there are just too many complaints about the gearbox.
Some say you need to get used to driving it differently than other cars. It probably could be something I could live with, but it's the head gasket problems which scare me tbh.
Google it and see

bidiots

I'll take a look, thanks again for the reply's

Oafley Jones

Why not check out the IS250, none of the problems of the 220D and the savings will pay for a lot of petrol/tax.

Tea 1000

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Why not check out the IS250, none of the problems of the 220D and the savings will pay for a lot of petrol/tax.

That is true, although the price difference between them is actually quite small.

bidiots

Just an update:
Went for an S80 in the end, the D5. Very comfy I have to say, bit of poke when needed but for simple comfort from A to B, its been a dream. Now to pay for the bloody tax:mad:

bear1

Well wear
Pics

bidiots

I'll throw a few pics up when I get the chance.... bear, any Volvo Indies around Galway that you are aware of?

sawdoubters

lexus will drive 300k or more

ford ran Volvo and killed it they kept cutting cost

2000 to 2010

Volvo cars became crap

http://www.fordinsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?2277-Volvo-Cars-to-double-2008-cost-cutting-plan

bazz26

D5 engine is a Volvo unit, very refined (for a diesel) and is an overall good engine.

bear1

bidiots wrote: »

I'll throw a few pics up when I get the chance.... bear, any Volvo Indies around Galway that you are aware of?

I've got a Volvo myself, S40 diesel and I always bring it to Loughrea.
Garage there called Lakeside, family run place and they've been brilliant, quick and cheap with any issues I've had with my Volvo.
Don't know if this helps you but in Galway City I wouldn't be too familiar.
Try a search of the motors forum or failing that start a new thread with a request

mcshape

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Why not check out the IS250, none of the problems of the 220D and the savings will pay for a lot of petrol/tax.

Oafley, dont meant to railraod the thread, Do you have kids?, i hear you cant fit a rear facing baby seat in the back of an IS250, I was about to buy one until google said not to!, now im still looking for a car...

kerten

mcshape wrote: »

Oafley, dont meant to railraod the thread, Do you have kids?, i hear you cant fit a rear facing baby seat in the back of an IS250, I was about to buy one until google said not to!, now im still looking for a car...

I have an is250. It is not a good car to ferry kids around practicality wise. Rear/Boot space is limited and access to space is bad as well. No worse than e46 I had before though.

unkel

mcshape wrote: »

i hear you cant fit a rear facing baby seat in the back of an IS250

Who told you that? Any car with a three point seatbelt in the back will fit a rear facing baby seat. It's not until you have 3 kids that small cars (like the IS250) won't be big enough any more to fit 3 seats

mcshape

unkel wrote: »

Who told you that? Any car with a three point seatbelt in the back will fit a rear facing baby seat. It's not until you have 3 kids that small cars (like the IS250) won't be big enough any more to fit 3 seats

Huge amount of people online posting (mainly stateside) saying that they cannot fit a rear facing baby seat in the back without putting passenger seat right up against dashboard!, Have you had one in your IS?

Oafley Jones

mcshape wrote: »

Oafley, dont meant to railraod the thread, Do you have kids?, i hear you cant fit a rear facing baby seat in the back of an IS250, I was about to buy one until google said not to!, now im still looking for a car...

Ive a three month old, it's a disaster of a car for that age group. ****e boot and all. You can fit a baby seat, but you've to push the seat forward to get it in. I haven't had a chance to use the base with my car yet, but I'm not looking forward to it.

mcshape

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Ive a three month old, it's a disaster of a car for that age group. ****e boot and all. You can fit a baby seat, but you've to push the seat forward to get it in. I haven't had a chance to use the base with my car yet, but I'm not looking forward to it.

Thanks for that
TBH thats what the reviews online are saying, So its not just a case of the passenger seat being all the way forward to fit the baby seat in, You actually have to move the seat all the way forward ot get it in?

Sounds like a disaster, i sent you a pm also, Whats the Real mpg like in city driving?

bidiots

bear1 wrote: »

I've got a Volvo myself, S40 diesel and I always bring it to Loughrea.
Garage there called Lakeside, family run place and they've been brilliant, quick and cheap with any issues I've had with my Volvo.
Don't know if this helps you but in Galway City I wouldn't be too familiar.
Try a search of the motors forum or failing that start a new thread with a request

I've had a search on the forum but to no avail, a recent thread was started but nothing came of it I'm afraid.... cheers for the info