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What to do reverse/turnabout situations

  • 23-01-2014 1:49pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭


    I have 5 different situation drawn up in the files attached can anyone tell me for each situation what you are supposed to. I havent been able to get straight answers from any instructer :(

    Fig 1 - What are you supposed to do when you see the black car coming(you are blue car) and you are in that position on the road(ps there is a stop sign)

    Fig 2 - Same story

    Fig 3 - Same story

    Fig4 - Same story

    Fig5 - The turnabout what are you supposed to do when you see a car coming like that. Do you wait till the come to a complete stop? And what do oyu do if they keep moving.

    Thanks for your help in advance it would be much appreciated and I think its an area where a lot of people get caught up on :)
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭willietherock


    Personally I'd stop and see if they pass me by. If they stop and wait you can complete the movement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭SellingJuan


    Then do oyu not fail for not giving right of way?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    Then do oyu not fail for not giving right of way?

    One of the golden rules when reversing around a corner would be to stop if there is approaching traffic.
    In the 5th one I am guessing you are doing your turnabout. You would need to be in full control of your car and an awareness of all your surrounding. You need to be confident of what is happening around you. If an approaching car is slowing down as you are doing your turnabout don't forget about what is happening on the other side and to the wear. Remember to keep both hands on the steering wheel and to use controlled movements.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭SellingJuan


    One of the golden rules when reversing around a corner would be to stop if there is approaching traffic.
    In the 5th one I am guessing you are doing your turnabout. You would need to be in full control of your car and an awareness of all your surrounding. You need to be confident of what is happening around you. If an approaching car is slowing down as you are doing your turnabout don't forget about what is happening on the other side and to the wear. Remember to keep both hands on the steering wheel and to use controlled movements.

    Thanks for that but do you stop and wait until the other car has stopped :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭ARCD


    Golden rule: if you see a vehicle approaching, STOP.

    With regards right of way, essentially you must yield to all other traffic.

    Fig. 1. Stop and wait for the approaching car to decide what they are going to do, most will drive around you. In some circumstances you might have to return to your starting position, but only if necessary (i.e. approaching car stopped behind you leaving no room to complete manoeuvre), and only move forward if it is safe to do so.

    Fig. 2. The approaching car may be turning right, even if they have no indicator. Stop where you are to avoid narrowing their space, only continue when they have cleared the junction.

    Fig. 3. The approaching car may be turning left, in which case continuing your manoeuvre will narrow their space. Or they could be continuing straight ahead. In either case you should only continue your manoeuvre when they have cleared the junction.

    Fig. 4. See Fig. 1. and Fig 3.

    Fig. 5. Stop and wait until you know what the other car is going to do. If they are not stopping they may have decided it is safe to pass you. If the other car stops then you can continue your manoeuvre as long as it is safe to do so. Do not move until the other car has either passed you or has stopped.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭SellingJuan


    ARCD wrote: »
    Golden rule: if you see a vehicle approaching, STOP.

    With regards right of way, essentially you must yield to all other traffic.

    Fig. 1. Stop and wait for the approaching car to decide what they are going to do, most will drive around you. In some circumstances you might have to return to your starting position, but only if necessary (i.e. approaching car stopped behind you leaving no room to complete manoeuvre), and only move forward if it is safe to do so.

    Fig. 2. The approaching car may be turning right, even if they have no indicator. Stop where you are to avoid narrowing their space, only continue when they have cleared the junction.

    Fig. 3. The approaching car may be turning left, in which case continuing your manoeuvre will narrow their space. Or they could be continuing straight ahead. In either case you should only continue your manoeuvre when they have cleared the junction.

    Fig. 4. See Fig. 1. and Fig 3.

    Fig. 5. Stop and wait until you know what the other car is going to do. If they are not stopping they may have decided it is safe to pass you. If the other car stops then you can continue your manoeuvre as long as it is safe to do so. Do not move until the other car has either passed you or has stopped.

    Thank you very much for the help it is much appreciated. Just one more question. In fig 1 if the car just stops should you just return to the starting posiiton. And if so considering you are half way on the stop line etc how do oyu do it safely :) Thanks again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭ARCD


    Thank you very much for the help it is much appreciated. Just one more question. In fig 1 if the car just stops should you just return to the starting posiiton. And if so considering you are half way on the stop line etc how do oyu do it safely :) Thanks again

    It depends where they stop, if they have left you enough room to safely complete the manoeuvre you may continue. If they don't leave you enough room they may want you to clear the junction, in which case you should move forward. Regarding the stop sign, if you are halfway across the line when you stopped then make your observations from there. Yield to any approaching traffic and only proceed when it is safe to do so.

    Be careful also that just because they stopped doesn't mean they are waiting for you, they could assess the situation and then move around you. Only move forward if you are sure that is the safest thing to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭tom_murphy112


    Could they actually ask you to reverse around a corner that has a stop sign ?
    I think it could be very dangerous hence the stop sign..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭miss no stars


    Could they actually ask you to reverse around a corner that has a stop sign ?
    I think it could be very dangerous hence the stop sign..


    Did it in my test. The trick is to remember to actually stop at the stop sign on the way back out :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭SellingJuan


    Just passed the test there now. The situation on the turnabout came up where a car approached. So I stopped and waited till he stopped. Then proceeded. I got a grade 1 for the turnabout but Im not sure what for :v


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭miss no stars


    Just passed the test there now. The situation on the turnabout came up where a car approached. So I stopped and waited till he stopped. Then proceeded. I got a grade 1 for the turnabout but Im not sure what for :v

    I hate the way they refuse to tell what exactly you get marks for. My own tester was a decent guy and briefly explained where my grade 1 faults came from (I asked him and told him I only wanted to know so that I could learn from it, not because I disputed anything), but in general there seems to be a massive resistance to saying what went wrong. At a bare minimum there should be some level of obligation to inform the candidate of what they've done wrong.

    It makes you question the "S" in "RSA"; if they really were about safety they would tell a person where they went wrong, even if they've passed. If you don't know what was wrong with something, how can they expect people to improve?


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