Relocating speed-limit signs

yaledo

Some speed-limit signs on the N18, at Ardrahan, Co Galway were replaced this week - having been absent for almost a year.

The new signs are positioned about 500m NW of the signs they replace. [http://goo.gl/maps/bPxba shows approximately the old location 'A' and the new location 'B']

This effectively expands a 60km/h zone from a very short zone [about 50m] to a very long zone [about 500m].

I've looked at 2010 bye-laws for Co Galway, and also at 2013 "draft" bye-laws url]http://www.galway.ie/en/Services/RoadsTransportation/TrafficManagement-Parking/SpeedLimits/[/url for Co Galway. Both of these documents specify the old location. Neither of them specifies the new location.

So to my questions: Should there be a change to a bye-law before the signage is repositioned in this manner? Has there been such a change?

Middle Man

yaledo wrote: »

Some speed-limit signs on the N18, at Ardrahan, Co Galway were replaced this week - having been absent for almost a year.

The new signs are positioned about 500m NW of the signs they replace. [http://goo.gl/maps/bPxba shows approximately the old location 'A' and the new location 'B']

This effectively expands a 60km/h zone from a very short zone [about 50m] to a very long zone [about 500m].

I've looked at 2010 bye-laws for Co Galway, and also at 2013 "draft" bye-laws url]http://www.galway.ie/en/Services/RoadsTransportation/TrafficManagement-Parking/SpeedLimits/[/url for Co Galway. Both of these documents specify the old location. Neither of them specifies the new location.

So to my questions: Should there be a change to a bye-law before the signage is repositioned in this manner? Has there been such a change?

I would imagine that this would require a bye-law amendment - can anyone confirm this?

antoobrien

Middle Man wrote: »

I would imagine that this would require a bye-law amendment - can anyone confirm this?

Changing the limit requires a new bye-law, we're waiting for the one to change the limit on the Monivea Rd at the airport.

Victor

There may be a road works speed limit order in place.

antoobrien wrote: »

Changing the limit requires a new bye-law, we're waiting for the one to change the limit on the Monivea Rd at the airport.

They had hoped to take it to the full council in January, but there have been delays, so it may be next month.

antoobrien

Victor wrote: »

They had hoped to take it to the full council in January, but there have been delays, so it may be next month.

In fairness there are bigger fish to fry in Co Galway right now.

SeanW

Quick question: Why would they be lowering a speed limit on a road that (other than the level crossing) doesn't pass anything but one off houses and agricultural fields?

Victor

I can only imagine (a) level crossing (b) roadworks (c) error or (d) electricity / telephone poles in the middle of junctions / hard shoulders. The latter seems to be a Galway special.

https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=N18&daddr=N18&hl=en&ll=53.160356,-8.810231&spn=0.000674,0.00191&sll=53.158564,-8.807344&sspn=0.002888,0.008562&geocode=FYEjKwMd45l5_w%3BFZkxKwMd7IZ5_w&t=h&mra=dme&mrsp=0&sz=17&z=19&layer=c&cbll=53.160356,-8.810231&panoid=Ro0iJTrW3D_d29K_7KXMgw&cbp=12,204.99,,0,6.78

https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=N18&daddr=N18&hl=en&ll=53.161349,-8.811615&spn=0.005339,0.015278&sll=53.158564,-8.807344&sspn=0.002888,0.008562&geocode=FYEjKwMd45l5_w%3BFZkxKwMd7IZ5_w&t=h&mra=dme&mrsp=0&sz=17&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.161271,-8.811516&panoid=6A8eNPrv0S0hkxV5vSuUBw&cbp=12,236.95,,0,13.47

Victor

Victor wrote: »

I can only imagine (a) level crossing (b) roadworks (c) error or (d) electricity / telephone poles in the middle of junctions / hard shoulders. The latter seems to be a Galway special.

https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=N18&daddr=N18&hl=en&ll=53.160356,-8.810231&spn=0.000674,0.00191&sll=53.158564,-8.807344&sspn=0.002888,0.008562&geocode=FYEjKwMd45l5_w%3BFZkxKwMd7IZ5_w&t=h&mra=dme&mrsp=0&sz=17&z=19&layer=c&cbll=53.160356,-8.810231&panoid=Ro0iJTrW3D_d29K_7KXMgw&cbp=12,204.99,,0,6.78

https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=N18&daddr=N18&hl=en&ll=53.161349,-8.811615&spn=0.005339,0.015278&sll=53.158564,-8.807344&sspn=0.002888,0.008562&geocode=FYEjKwMd45l5_w%3BFZkxKwMd7IZ5_w&t=h&mra=dme&mrsp=0&sz=17&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.161271,-8.811516&panoid=6A8eNPrv0S0hkxV5vSuUBw&cbp=12,236.95,,0,13.47

There used to be a pole in the middle of a driveway a few door up from me, the pole was eventually removed when Eircom upgraded the line.

hardCopy

Deleted User wrote: »

There used to be a pole in the middle of a driveway a few door up from me, the pole was eventually removed when Eircom upgraded the line.

I think these guys win the prize: http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/education/bright-sparks-go-through-the-roof-in-electrifying-race-to-build-new-school-26345250.html

yaledo

Victor wrote: »

I can only imagine (a) level crossing (b) roadworks (c) error or (d) electricity / telephone poles in the middle of junctions

I'm guessing some variant of (c) here. The repositioned speed limit signs mentioned in the original post were removed again about 2 weeks ago. In the last couple of days, they have been restored to their original position.

antoobrien

antoobrien wrote: »

Changing the limit requires a new bye-law, we're waiting for the one to change the limit on the Monivea Rd at the airport.

This will finally be changed on May 8th. Expect to see at least one gosafe van parked on the strech for the next 8 weeks.

Victor

It seems the bye-laws were adopted. http://www.advertiser.ie/galway/article/67974/new-county-speed-limits-adopted