Club competitions, how much do you pay?

Wichita Lineman

I am curious to see what the normal going rate for members weekend competitions is in your clubs.

In Moate we charge members €7 entry fee at weekends, €5 for our Thursday Open and then for the 'majors' or a scramble say for Captains Drive in it would usually be €10. I think this is reasonable as the annual fee has stayed pretty static at around the €500 mark over the past few years but apparently some members dont agree.

I'd like to see what the general opinion / experieince on here is in that regard.

PARlance

€2 for us at Grange Castle, and I throw €2 into the 2's club to keep the better golfers topped up!

It may be hard for you to increase the sub (if other clubs in the area are at a similar level and you don't want to be seen as being that bit more expensive) but I prefer a model that incorporates most of the comp fee into the membership...

E.g I would prefer to pay 600-650 and get my comps for €2 rather than paying 500 and paying €7 for 20-30 comps... I still pay the same but it's just less hassle as I'll always have a few quid in the bag but if I was taking €7 out every weekend the fund may dry up and I'm stopping at shops/atms before the round. Really just a convenience thing for me.

I would say that €7 seems a bit high for me on the face of it, it just seems like a lot to be forking out to be paying for a round where you are a full member.
It's getting close to Pay & Play levels nearly.

blue note

7e in Tramore for a Sunday comp. 12e for members for the Friday open including a grill after.

plumber77

8 at the weekends, 6 for midweek singles at Newcastlewest. On top of a 760 sub it's a reason I won't be joining again this year. Nice course nice people, a tad expensive

Dealerz

€5 in Roganstown but captains day is different.

markthespark77

520 sub in portumna, and 7 euro for members for a sunday..5 euro for the monday open comp. and think the capt and pres are 15..

Wichita Lineman

Thanks for the replies so far lads. I really appreciate that.

kieran.

€5 for Winter/ No Counting Comps, €7 for normal weekend stable for comps and €10 for medals in Rossmore GC

Ben1977

€5 in our place with a 2s club

ballyk

Ballykisteen is in the €5-€7 range as well.

ShriekingSheet

I'm a big fan of how our club do it. 120 for the year (on top of usual membership fees etc) and we don't pay into any comps at all.

The rationale is that it's average value for someone who plays twice a month (ie: a fiver a comp), and really good value for anyone who plays more than that. Then you have the guys who rarely play, for whom it's not great value, but sure neither is their whole membership.

It includes mid week and weekend comps, all majors bar the Captains and Presidents, but the fee you pay for them gets you breakfast and dinner kind of thing.

No paying into match plays or anything I don't think.

I think it's great.

Neil Andblomee

Andy Dunne11 wrote: »

I am curious to see what the normal going rate for members weekend competitions is in your clubs.

In Moate we charge members €7 entry fee at weekends, €5 for our Thursday Open and then for the 'majors' or a scramble say for Captains Drive in it would usually be €10. I think this is reasonable as the annual fee has stayed pretty static at around the €500 mark over the past few years but apparently some members dont agree.

I'd like to see what the general opinion / experieince on here is in that regard.

I don't get the correlation you make between subs and comps fees, two very different things, one is for the running of the club and the other is for the mens club competitions and interclub comps, the two shouldn't be confused and mixed in together.
Our place is €7 for normal weekly comps and usually €20 for the majors, (captains and presidents which also include food), €7 is on the high side but we have a very small player base, €5 is more than enough if you have good numbers playing every week.

tayto lover

5 euro + 1 euro for the 2's on a Sunday.

Wichita Lineman

There is at least one obvious connection between the 2 figures in that both are required when calculating how much is potentially spent on golf per member in my own club I suppose.

€7 per week would be in my view excessive if I was paying €1,000 in subs, but I'm not thankfully.

Everyone has their own view, some would like to pay higher annual sub and have comps included, others want lower annual sub and higher comp fees and some are like me that are ok with current annual sub and current weekly rates. So far at least Moate doesnt seem to be excessively priced compared to other examples here. Thats just my opinion and why I asked for some input.

By the way what club are you in Neil?

Dr_Colossus

ShriekingSheet wrote: »

I'm a big fan of how our club do it. 120 for the year (on top of usual membership fees etc) and we don't pay into any comps at all.

The rationale is that it's average value for someone who plays twice a month (ie: a fiver a comp), and really good value for anyone who plays more than that. Then you have the guys who rarely play, for whom it's not great value, but sure neither is their whole membership.

It includes mid week and weekend comps, all majors bar the Captains and Presidents, but the fee you pay for them gets you breakfast and dinner kind of thing.

No paying into match plays or anything I don't think.

I think it's great.

Great system, used to be a member in Tulfarris a couple of years ago and they had this also. Think it was €150 for the year but once paid there was a great incentive to play competitions including the lesser 12 or 15 hole winter competitions and social scrambles etc. Made it a lot easier for the treasurer also not having to collect/sort weekly competition entry fees and lodge them to the account.

Black Bush where I'm currently a member is €6 for weekend single competitions plus an optional €2 for the twos. Medals and open competitions are €8 plus again an optional €2 for the twos. Quite expensive I think especially in winter at €6 for 12 holes and don't understand why the open competitions are an expensive €8 as they're usually only €15 for visitors. €5 is plenty for general weekend competitions in my book.

Regarding the 2's, I think they should be either part of the general competition entry fee for everyone or not at all. This option of paying an additional €2 to be in with a shot is a bit tedious as you're left wondering how many people do put in on it and whether there's any edge in it long term.

GreeBo

7 for us inc the two's
All automated so no cash required, you stick money on your purse on BRS and cant book unless you have funds.

If you dont turn up you lose your cash.

Dealerz

GreeBo wrote: »

7 for us inc the two's
All automated so no cash required, you stick money on your purse on BRS and cant book unless you have funds.

If you dont turn up you lose your cash.

I didn't realise brs had that capability- thought it just a slot booking system-sounds great. Is that used widely do people know?

sydneybound

To be honest I think €7 is too much. I reckon it should be kept to €5 for regular comps but obviously more for the major club comps. Entry fees should be kept reasonable low and prizes should not be excessive, pride should be in your handicap but that's a discussion for another day.

Really like the sounds of €120 for yearly comps, paying this I would enter all sorts of comps.

I'm playing in the UK at the moment and it's £3.75 a comp which we have one a month which is shocking.

n2o

€4 for normal weekend comp

€6 for medals / majors

€10 for Captains Qualifying / Captains

+ €2 for 2s

No charge for Match Play

All on account and €10 fine for a no show

Senna

Didn't realise BRS had that facility, it actually sounds great, not having to carry cash for a comp and I would love to see players fined for not playing when they have their name on a slot.

superhooper

Who or what gets these 2's?

Ronney

superhooper wrote: »

Who or what gets these 2's?

Usually all t he money goes in a pot in is divided evenly between any of the entrants that record a 2 on any hole. Two 2's and you get 2 shares and so forth.

Some clubs might exclude a certain hole from counting (very short par 3) in order not to over dilute the pot.

Also Hole in one sometimes will get you half the pot

Carpo86

Ronney wrote: »

Usually all t he money goes in a pot in is divided evenly between any of the entrants that record a 2 on any hole. Two 2's and you get 2 shares and so forth.

Some clubs might exclude a certain hole from counting (very short par 3) in order not to over dilute the pot.

Also Hole in one sometimes will get you half the pot

Or the whole pot in some clubs!

Not that I'm bitter or anything...

Dossy

€5 in Woodstock sub is €850

I got lucky this year with 20th Anniversary so 2yrs for the price of 1

Still there for anyone looking for new membership....

Wichita Lineman

sydneybound wrote: »

To be honest I think €7 is too much. I reckon it should be kept to €5 for regular comps but obviously more for the major club comps. Entry fees should be kept reasonable low and prizes should not be excessive, pride should be in your handicap but that's a discussion for another day.

Really like the sounds of €120 for yearly comps, paying this I would enter all sorts of comps.

I'm playing in the UK at the moment and it's £3.75 a comp which we have one a month which is shocking.

Thanks for your input, and just to confirm our prizes are not excessive.

TitianGerm

In my club the sub is 800.
Midweek 9 hole is 4 and €2 for the twos.
Saturday Sunday competition is €6 and €2 for the twos.
Sunday 9 hole mixed is €8/€10 for your pairing.
Ladies Tuesday competition is €5 and €2 for twos.
Last year the captains prize was €20 with a bottle of beer and bbq on the 10th tee.
All club matchplay are not included and i think vary between €10 and €20 for entry.

Edit: player base of well over 1000 close to 1200 I'd say.

indabunka

€5.00 for most compts in Royal Curragh Golf Club
€15.00 for Captains (54 hole event)
€850 annual sub.

reax

I personally don't agree with charging one off up front for Comps. I fear it would scare away the non-playing members which, in todays times, every club needs. Already I've noticed in our club some fourballs choosing to play after competition hours in order to avoid the fee.

DuckSlice

Mulranny golf club in mayo, 7 euro for comps. 15 or 20 for captains/presidents. 280 sub

Dbu

n2o wrote: »

€4 for normal weekend comp

€6 for medals / majors

€10 for Captains Qualifying / Captains

+ €2 for 2s

No charge for Match Play

All on account and €10 fine for a no show

I wish more clubs would enforce this
few weeks ago, down for 2 man team event, other 2 never bothered turning up or cancelling..to..ers. we just played a few holes ourselves:mad:

Dr_Colossus

reax wrote: »

I personally don't agree with charging one off up front for Comps. I fear it would scare away the non-playing members which, in todays times, every club needs.

Same could be said for a bar and/or restaurant levy. It's increasing the overall cost of membership by subsiding the bar/restaurant and forcing you to use them. At least with a competition levy you're encouraged (forced) to play in a few competitions which will naturally impact on your handicap.

reax wrote: »

Already I've noticed in our club some fourballs choosing to play after competition hours in order to avoid the fee.

That further favors payment of a competition levy, there's a real incentive to not play in competitions if it's costing you an additional €5 - €10 per competition especially for the non counting winter and team events.

Wichita Lineman

But surely paying your competition fee is another way of supporting your club? Is loyalty not a factor any more or is it just get golf as cheap as you can as often as you can?

Some very interesting answers. Would love to hear more competition fees though.

Anita B Jaynow

Andy Dunne11 wrote: »

But surely paying your competition fee is another way of supporting your club? Is loyalty not a factor any more or is it just get golf as cheap as you can as often as you can?

Some very interesting answers. Would love to hear more competition fees though.

€7 for our weekly comps, which is expensive, I think €5 would be plenty.
I wouldn't be in favour of paying comps fees upfront, I think it penalises the casual golfer too much and the guy who plays more pays less seems unfair to me, that coming from someone who plays 50+ comps a year.
In our club competition fees are not used as a source of revenue for the club (I assume that is the case in other clubs too, or at least it should be), unlike bar/restaurant which is used as a source of revenue, so asking people to prepay for the bar/restaurant makes more sense in a club loyalty/supporting sense, but not competitions fees imo.

Boskowski

€7 for Sunday comps plus €2 for the 2's which I think is excessive for a €1000+ annual sub. I'd rather not say where 'cos I was told before I'm badmouthing the club over simply stating facts.

Benicetomonty

5e in lucan with option of an extra 2e for the 2s. More for the captains as that's a 2 day event, but standard for all other member's comps.

shane0007

Kilkenny is €5 for Sunday comps, €2 for the 2's club & €1 for me mars bar!

So chomping good fun for €8.

Wichita Lineman

So it looks like Moate are pretty much the same as a lot of other clubs with their competition fees which is very informative. I appreciate there are variations and also different membership fees / locations to be considered but it's always interesting to see how you compare to other clubs.

Many thanks to all who contributed.

tayto lover

On the other hand I have 26.30 in my account for 2's for the last two Sundays.
Will let it build up.

Dbu

shane0007 wrote: »

Kilkenny is €5 for Sunday comps, €2 for the 2's club & €1 for me mars bar!

So chomping good fun for €8.

Mars bars...dont start me:mad:
paid €1.10 for one in Cork yesterday and they seem tiny compared to the size they used to be:eek:

PARlance

Andy Dunne11 wrote: »

So it looks like Moate are pretty much the same as a lot of other clubs with their competition fees which is very informative. I appreciate there are variations and also different membership fees / locations to be considered but it's always interesting to see how you compare to other clubs.

Many thanks to all who contributed.

I was surprised that our one was in the minority at €2.
Where you considering any options re changing it Andy?

Dbu wrote: »

Mars bars...dont start me:mad:
paid €1.10 for one in Cork yesterday and they seem tiny compared to the size they used to be:eek:

62.5g in 2007, 51g in 2013.... they'll have to stick a "fun size" sticker on them soon.

Wichita Lineman

No changes likely but I know there are differing views, some think €7 per weekend competition is expensive and some dont. As I've said already personally I'd rather pay €7 per comp (which I play practically every week) and keep the annual fee down as much as possible.