TB Restrictions

Hershall

Is it true now that if you have a TB outbreak you can't buy in stock until you have a clear test?

visatorro

Yeah fairly sure that's right.

simx

Hershall wrote: »

Is it true now that if you have a TB outbreak you can't buy in stock until you have a clear test?

I think ya can as long as ya get permission off dept.

Hershall

simx wrote: »

I think ya can as long as ya get permission off dept.

Rumour has it dept not giving permits to buy since the middle of this month!

Deepsouthwest

Hershall wrote: »

Is it true now that if you have a TB outbreak you can't buy in stock until you have a clear test?

Thought if u bought cattle while locked up and they go down in the nxt test, ur not compensated for those cattle. I could be wrong about this

simx

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Thought if u bought cattle while locked up and they go down in the nxt test, ur not compensated for those cattle. I could be wrong about this

Yes I think that's correct

caseman

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Thought if u bought cattle while locked up and they go down in the nxt test, ur not compensated for those cattle. I could be wrong about this

You'll only get hook price no compo.

J.O. Farmer

Why would you want to buy cattle when locked up. The only place you can sell is the factory. The only reason I can think is to buy a stock bull to replace one that had gone down. Other than that if you were a big finisher I suppose going down might not be such a risk.
As others said you have to get permission from the department and if they go down you'll only get salvage value.

MfMan

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

Why would you want to buy cattle when locked up. The only place you can sell is the factory. The only reason I can think is to buy a stock bull to replace one that had gone down. Other than that if you were a big finisher I suppose going down might not be such a risk.
As others said you have to get permission from the department and if they go down you'll only get salvage value.

Well, if you've sold cattle (to the factory), you generally want to replace them. I've often had to do it.

caseman

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

Why would you want to buy cattle when locked up. The only place you can sell is the factory. The only reason I can think is to buy a stock bull to replace one that had gone down. Other than that if you were a big finisher I suppose going down might not be such a risk.
As others said you have to get permission from the department and if they go down you'll only get salvage value.

If you have to make a living, you might have to buy cattle.

J.O. Farmer

MfMan wrote: »

Well, if you've sold cattle (to the factory), you generally want to replace them. I've often had to do it.

I suppose if you're finishing cattle regularly you might want to replace them immediately.
My point was that it would seem to be better to wait until clear and buy then. If things go well you can be clear in about 3 months and if not is it not risky that some bought in cattle might go down. i know the cattle might be dearer then but it might be less costly than underfinished cattle going down.

nashmach

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

I suppose if you're finishing cattle regularly you might want to replace them immediately.
My point was that it would seem to be better to wait until clear and buy then. If things go well you can be clear in about 3 months and if not is it not risky that some bought in cattle might go down. i know the cattle might be dearer then but it might be less costly than underfinished cattle going down.

But that might mean you have nothing to graze grass.

Stuck in this quagmire ourselves now, nothing only a mess and I can confirm no more permits.

bob charles

nashmach wrote: »

But that might mean you have nothing to graze grass.

Stuck in this quagmire ourselves now, nothing only a mess and I can confirm no more permits.

the dept seem to have really not taught out this one at all. are they hoping most beef herds will go down the feedlot route (even though most wont meet the criteria). are hoping to reduce the amount of movements and animal through sales rings. Meanwhile the IFA were off canvassing and throwing big parties while this new plan was being put through. its completely unworkable for most beef farms. Local DVO offices havnt a clue on how to proceed. Looks like they will be putting an awful lot of beef buyers out of business by restricting trade

Nekarsulm

nashmach wrote: »

But that might mean you have nothing to graze grass.

Stuck in this quagmire ourselves now, nothing only a mess and I can confirm no more permits.

It is a real mess to be in. but at least you could set a certin acerage to some lad for first cut silage . Far worse if you were locked up in September and you stocked to the eyeballs with fodder for only the half of them .
Remember the Dept. consider themselves to be the "Senior Service" so plebs like us are going to be down the list of priorities .

bob charles

Ah lads this is turning into a right mess

got paperwork today including a checklist for the washing down and disposal of any material that may possess TB:eek:, Slurry and dung should not be applied on grassland stockpiles should be located so as not to provide risk to infecting other animals

A whole new raft of bord bia audits will also need to be done for feedlots as the bord bia audit is linked to the herd number and not to the farm.

Our farm organizations would want to get on the ball rather quickly as this is turning into a farce. There seems to be a serious rise in the number of TB cases in the last 3 months for some reason:rolleyes:

nashmach

bob charles wrote: »

Ah lads this is turning into a right mess

got paperwork today including a checklist for the washing down and disposal of any material that may possess TB:eek:, Slurry and dung should not be applied on grassland stockpiles should be located so as not to provide risk to infecting other animals

A whole new raft of bord bia audits will also need to be done for feedlots as the bord bia audit is linked to the herd number and not to the farm.

Our farm organizations would want to get on the ball rather quickly as this is turning into a farce. There seems to be a serious rise in the number of TB cases in the last 3 months for some reason:rolleyes:

Had to check my phone there to see what date it was - well it is not April 1st anyway:(

Are you going to suck up all the slurry and seperate out the amount from the reactors alone? :eek::D

Someone must have written these policies on January 2nd:rolleyes:

J.O. Farmer

nashmach wrote: »

Had to check my phone there to see what date it was - well it is not April 1st anyway:(

Are you going to suck up all the slurry and seperate out the amount from the reactors alone? :eek::D

Someone must have written these policies on January 2nd:rolleyes:

Where do you go with the reactors slurry. I can understand a ban on grazing land for a period after spreading but realistically how much chance is there of an animal contracting tb once the slurry is washed in and the grass is palatable again.
I think that legislators are people that work in offices and are totally out of touch with reality. I think it happens in all walks of life though. People in offices come up with ideas that in reality don't work and will probably be ignored before the person doing the work nods and agrees that they did what they were told.