16GB USB formatted to NTFS but won't play

Jose1

Having tried to transfer a 7.5GB file (movie) onto a USB using windows vista I found it necessary to change the format from FAT32 to NTFS.

The USB played fine on my laptop but when I plug it into my Walker TV box it won't recognise it (there is no USB socket on my TV).

Is the problem that my TV Box is c*ap or should I try something else?

Thanks!

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Jose1 wrote: »

Having tried to transfer a 7.5GB file (movie) onto a USB using windows vista I found it necessary to change the format from FAT32 to NTFS.

The USB played fine on my laptop but when I plug it into my Walker TV box it won't recognise it (there is no USB socket on my TV).

Is the problem that my TV Box is c*ap or should I try something else?

Thanks!

I'm guessing it doesn't read NTFS. Try format the drive as ExFAT.

riclad

MOST tvs read fat32,
not ntfs,
read the tv manual.
I think the tv is working fine.
,obviously laptops can read ntfs, or fat disk formats.
copy the file ,to laptop,
then quick format drive in fat disk format.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table

Jose1

I originally had the file on my laptop but had to format it to NTFS in order to transfer it onto the USB. It seems that FAT32, the original format, can only be transferred in sizes smaller that 4GB, this file is 7.5GB.

I also tried formatting it to EXFAT but my box won't recognise it

If I were to buy a different box would/might that solve the problem? Any suggestions? Anyone? Help!

bonzodog2

You could reencode it to be less than 4GB to fit on the fat32

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Jose1 wrote: »

I originally had the file on my laptop but had to format it to NTFS in order to transfer it onto the USB. It seems that FAT32, the original format, can only be transferred in sizes smaller that 4GB, this file is 7.5GB.

I also tried formatting it to EXFAT but my box won't recognise it

If I were to buy a different box would/might that solve the problem? Any suggestions? Anyone? Help!

Different box yes but it would be easier to just obtain the video again in a compressed version and format back to FAT32. You can get HD videos at around 2GB.

Jose1

bonzodog2 wrote: »

You could reencode it to be less than 4GB to fit on the fat32

Re-encode, how can I go about doing that?

The video file in question is my own work, it's 42 minutes long with all filmed movie sections HD @ 50fps. Ideally I would like to keep the resolution quality at its highest, would re-encoding effect that? Sorry about all of the questions, you can tell I'm a complete novice when it comes to formatting and the like.

Thanks.

bonzodog2

I'm not a big expert on this, and you will lose some quality. Something like DVDShrink, there are prob others

Jose1

Thanks for your help, I really do appreciate it!

At first glance it appears that DVD SHRINK is for downsizing DVD's only? But I can't burn the movie file onto DVD because it's bigger than allowed for such use, I think DVD's max out at 4.7GB, that's why I had to transfer it onto a USB stick.

bonzodog2

DVDShrink will take a dual layer DVD and reencode it to fit on a single-layer 4.7GB one. I don't know if it will work on ISO disk images. I beleive DivX and the like allow you to specify the output size, e.g. many torrent downloads for movies will fit on a 700MB CD

maki

DVDShrink is only for for DVD-Video (H.262), which the OP almost certainly didn't record in.
It would be handiest if you grabbed something like MediaInfo to tell us the exact codecs used in the original file. It'll make it simpler to recommend the way forward regarding re-encoding.
You're more than likely going to want to go the H.264 route since you'll get the best quality vs file size.

moc moc a moc

Another option would be to split the file into two files, each under 4GB, which will allow you to keep the same quality with the same codec.

riclad wrote: »

Bizarre nonsense

Every time I see a post from this guy, I swear he's typing it in the middle of a stroke.

Jose1

Hope this helps?

Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
File size : 7.62 GiB
Duration : 41mn 45s
Overall bit rate : 26.1 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2014-01-22 15:30:35
Tagged date : UTC 2014-01-22 15:30:35

Video
ID : 1
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@High
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=12
Codec ID : 61
Duration : 41mn 45s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 24.6 Mbps
Nominal bit rate : 35.0 Mbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 50.000 fps
Standard : Component
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.533
Stream size : 7.17 GiB (94%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2014-01-22 15:30:35
Tagged date : UTC 2014-01-22 15:30:35

Audio
ID : 2
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Codec ID : twos
Duration : 41mn 45s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 459 MiB (6%)
Language : English

degsie

You could split the video using software. There's one from Boilsoft, which I haven't used myself.

Jose1

Just tried splitting the file, strangely, although it said it was splitting it into two halves (ie 3.8GB) it actually split it into two sections of 404MB and 237MB, with very distorted sound. I appreciate your input, thank you.

I've bought this media box from Amazon, looks promising, says it will play almost anything in most formats, hope so!


http://www.amazon.co.uk/IncrediSonic-Ultra-Play-IMP150-Flashdrives/dp/B006FNCWSY/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1390649720&sr=1-1&keywords=IncrediSonic+Ultra+Play+IMP150+-+HD

vibe666

moc moc a moc wrote: »

Every time I see a post from this guy, I swear he's typing it in the middle of a stroke.

Just because he's saying something that doesn't make sense to you, doesn't mean it's bizarre nonsense.

Most of what he's saying is correct, just lacking in a little detail for less technical people to understand, and his punctuation could use some work.

To elaborate...

Download and install handbrake (Google it) and re-encode the file to shrink it below 4gb in a format that your TV can still play (that's where reading your TV manual comes in), then copy it back to the reformatted fat32 USB stick and you're grand.

vibe666

Jose1 wrote: »

I've bought this media box from Amazon, looks promising, says it will play almost anything in most formats, hope so!

Unless it will read an ntfs formatted disk, you'll have exactly the same problem. The issue isn't that your TV can't play the file, it's that it can't understand the ntfs disk format.

riclad

MOST tvs ,only read fat 32 format,
exfat format is of no use to you.
Tts easy to connect a laptop to tv thru hdmi port.
set resolution to 1024x768, Set
refresh rate on graphics card to 6o htz.
YOU can buy a media player ,
40 euro and higher
I have one ,it has hd out ,scart ,video out ,
It plays files on any tv .
Cables to connect to a tv are supplied with the unit.
You can open some media players and
put a hard drive inside it on cheaper models.
Connect to pc thru usb cable.

i bought it on adverts.ie for 50 euro in 2010.
Media players connect to tv thru hdmi or scart,
so the disk format does,nt matter , Most units play, mp4,avi ,wmv and other video file types.

I try to use simple plain language that can be understood
by someone who only has a very limited knowledge of computers.

Peter Rhea

riclad wrote: »

MOST tvs ,only read fat 32 format

You mean apart from all those that do NTFS too? Or merely specify that the storage device should be formatted 'to a system compatible for video recording'?

ED E

To explain a little, the processing overhead is much higher in NTFS than fat, so embedded devices with slower CPUs have a hard time dealing with it.


@Riclad: Still dont get you, every post is a strange mess...


OP: You dont need to buy new kit or change your setup, you just need to encode better

Use the MPG4 with the .h264 Codec. 50FPS is overkill, 28/29fps is plenty for video playback, even 24 is acceptable. Adjust the bitrate as needed to keep it under 4GB but at as good a quality as you want.

Jose1

ED E wrote: »

To explain a little, the processing overhead is much higher in NTFS than fat, so embedded devices with slower CPUs have a hard time dealing with it.


@Riclad: Still dont get you, every post is a strange mess...


OP: You dont need to buy new kit or change your setup, you just need to encode better

Use the MPG4 with the .h264 Codec. 50FPS is overkill, 28/29fps is plenty for video playback, even 24 is acceptable. Adjust the bitrate as needed to keep it under 4GB but at as good a quality as you want.

With regard to encoding, I really don't have much choice, quality is King!

I'm using Sony Vegas for video editing and want the best possible resolution for my video so I'm pretty much over a barrel as to what encoding crops up. I've never had this problem before simply because I haven't made a vid larger than 4GB, this one is close to 8GB.

Anyway, I've bought the media player and all is well;)

Thank you for your replies (except of course for the childish remark about having a stroke - grow up dude!)

riclad

Most tvs, i have seen read only drives formatted in fat32,
I,M not saying there,s no tvs that read ntfs format ,
Theres also dvd drives that read avi, mp4,wmv files etc
with a usb port on the side for easy connection of external drives.
I only buy a tv once every 3 years ,
so i don,t check all the latest tvs ,
unless i,m looking to buy 1.
IF you are using large files over 4gig,
its probably easier to connect a laptop to the tv,
OR buy a media player unit with a hdmi port on it,
as jose1 did.

degsie

riclad wrote: »

Most tvs, i have seen read only drives formatted in fat32,
I,M not saying there,s no tvs that read ntfs format ,
Theres also dvd drives that read avi, mp4,wmv files etc
with a usb port on the side for easy connection of external drives.
I only buy a tv once every 3 years ,
so i don,t check all the latest tvs ,
unless i,m looking to buy 1.
IF you are using large files over 4gig,
its probably easier to connect a laptop to the tv,
OR buy a media player unit with a hdmi port on it,
as jose1 did.

Again with the poetry!

Peter Rhea

riclad wrote: »

MOST tvs

riclad wrote: »

Most tvs, i have seen

Important distinction.

ED E

Jose1 wrote: »

With regard to encoding, I really don't have much choice, quality is King!

I'm using Sony Vegas for video editing and want the best possible resolution for my video so I'm pretty much over a barrel as to what encoding crops up. I've never had this problem before simply because I haven't made a vid larger than 4GB, this one is close to 8GB.

Anyway, I've bought the media player and all is well;)

Thank you for your replies (except of course for the childish remark about having a stroke - grow up dude!)

You're probably wasting space by the sound of it, but if its working and your happy with it then its grand.