Where To Buy A Soil Sampler

severeoversteer

i need to buy a soilsampler,

the one with the funnel ontop that holds the samples and you just push it in with your foot

will try teagasc tomorrow but someone on here might know

Conmaicne Mara

Teagasc will lend them if they know you and you do the test with them, or at least they have done so with me.

bob charles

severeoversteer wrote: »

i need to buy a soilsampler,

the one with the funnel ontop that holds the samples and you just push it in with your foot

will try teagasc tomorrow but someone on here might know

a good spade and core yourself with a knife with be much more eduactional and beneficial to all than those cores as they are inaccurate. cut out a uniform core from the sod. Seeing whats going on under the grass is of upmost importance. Soil structure is number 1. correcting fertility is a much easier job

severeoversteer

bob charles wrote: »

a good spade and core yourself with a knife with be much more eduactional and beneficial to all than those cores as they are inaccurate. cut out a uniform core from the sod. Seeing whats going on under the grass is of upmost importance. Soil structure is number 1. correcting fertility is a much easier job

you are right but it takes too long

i want a uniform sample of 4 inches deep with as little amount of soil as possible so that i can get 20 cores per sample

i use a lab which is much better value than teagasc and they are much quicker and give comprehensive results

i was thinking of doing it myself as i have the lab experience and all i would need is reagents and a spectrophotometer but they are expensive enough

rlaois

Ring up Teagasc down in Johnstown Castle. Ask for any of the tillage specialists and They will give you the name of a fella in kk or Wexford who makes the samplers and supplies all of Teagasc. I got one off him two years ago.can't find the receipt and the label is wore off. Make sure it's the cone sampler and not the box sampler. Cone sampler is the only job!

Which lab do you use or pm me if u want? Do a lot of sampling every year and turnaround time is always an issue!

Deepsouthwest

severeoversteer wrote: »

you are right but it takes too long

i want a uniform sample of 4 inches deep with as little amount of soil as possible so that i can get 20 cores per sample

i use a lab which is much better value than teagasc and they are much quicker and give comprehensive results

i was thinking of doing it myself as i have the lab experience and all i would need is reagents and a spectrophotometer but they are expensive enough

Which lab is this? Last time I dents samples to Teagasc they got lost and it took nearly 6mts to get results! To be fair, they didn't charge me for them after

awaywithyou

we made our own sampler.... very easy to make!

F.D

does anyone else find sometimes the soil just sticks in the corer and you end up with a stick pushing the core up from the bottom so you can take the next one.

onyerbikepat

Anyone know the dimensions of the sampler?
It should be easy enough make up one from a stainless pipe.
Sample depth should go to 100mm according to this.
http://www.teagasc.ie/environment/nitrates/soil_testing.asp

Would a 20mm stainless pipe do?


Some for sale here;
http://www.oaklandamenity.co.uk/#/soil-samplers/4532472783
http://steelmaster.co.uk/Store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=94_95&products_id=290

MfMan

F.D wrote: »

does anyone else find sometimes the soil just sticks in the corer and you end up with a stick pushing the core up from the bottom so you can take the next one.

Don't do that. Just take the next sample, which will push up the preceding sample for you to gather.

F.D

MfMan wrote: »

Don't do that. Just take the next sample, which will push up the preceding sample for you to gather.

What i mean is it gets so stuck that if you try and take the next sample it just presses down the soil or just will not go into the ground becasue the previous core wont shift, especially on tillage ground

MfMan

F.D wrote: »

What i mean is it gets so stuck that if you try and take the next sample it just presses down the soil or just will not go into the ground becasue the previous core wont shift, especially on tillage ground

Must be really dry ground!

aneala

onyerbikepat wrote: »

Anyone know the dimensions of the sampler?
It should be easy enough make up one from a stainless pipe.
Sample depth should go to 100mm according to this.
http://www.teagasc.ie/environment/nitrates/soil_testing.asp

Would a 20mm stainless pipe do?


The problem with this is that the very tip is slightly smaller in diameter and tapers out so it's easier to remove the core/sample. I'm speaking from experience here.....put down half a day making one one time, had a grand handle and box and all for collecting samples only problem was it wasn't tapered so samples would not come through.:mad:

Stevec394

Fitz agri in Carlow makes the core sampler. There are different ones available depending if you are sampling grass land or tillage land.

F.D

aneala wrote: »

onyerbikepat wrote: »

Anyone know the dimensions of the sampler?
It should be easy enough make up one from a stainless pipe.
Sample depth should go to 100mm according to this.
http://www.teagasc.ie/environment/nitrates/soil_testing.asp

Would a 20mm stainless pipe do?


The problem with this is that the very tip is slightly smaller in diameter and tapers out so it's easier to remove the core/sample. I'm speaking from experience here.....put down half a day making one one time, had a grand handle and box and all for collecting samples only problem was it wasn't tapered so samples would not come through.:mad:

maybe thats the problem i had, the taper may not have been right on the one i borrowed

severeoversteer

Stevec394 wrote: »

Fitz agri in Carlow makes the core sampler. There are different ones available depending if you are sampling grass land or tillage land.

do you have a phone number for them?

I googled it and cant get a number

Hugh 2

http://www.soilsamplersireland.com/
with delivery and vat it costs €126.08

Hugh 2

rlaois wrote: »

Make sure it's the cone sampler and not the box sampler. Cone sampler is the only job!

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Missed this earlier
I know the box sampler in the last image looks a bit gammy (@ 85 euro it did not sound that expensive)(the plus vat and delivery makes it expensive)
But Just wondering what's wrong with the box shaped sampler they say made in Ireland and Teagasc approved.

Count Mondego

Hugh 2 wrote: »

rlaois wrote: »

Make sure it's the cone sampler and not the box sampler. Cone sampler is the only job!

QUOTE]

Missed this earlier
I know the box sampler in the last image looks a bit gammy (@ 85 euro it did not sound that expensive)(the plus vat and delivery makes it expensive)
But Just wondering what's wrong with the box shaped sampler they say made in Ireland and Teagasc approved.

There's nothing wrong with it, just the price is mental. What kills me is that if they prices it at say 60 quid, they'd fly out the door. I'll be getting the welder out.

Farrell

Count Mondego wrote: »

Hugh 2 wrote: »

There's nothing wrong with it, just the price is mental. What kills me is that if they prices it at say 60 quid, they'd fly out the door. I'll be getting the welder out.

Are they not supposed to be aluminium?

blue5000

They come up in farm auctions from time to time. They usually have 'property of teagasc/acot' written faintly in permanent black marker on them though.

pms7

Fitzagri Farm Products Ltd.
Will Supply soil sampler Phone: +353 863915313

patsy_mccabe

Here's mine. Just simple stainless pipe and fitting. Open fitting then and push out sample with solid bar. Depth into soil, I judge by my fist in under the fitting. It is slow but it works. I hammer it down into ground and fitting is only hand tight.

Hugh 2

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Here's mine. Just simple stainless pipe and fitting. Open fitting then and push out sample with solid bar. Depth into soil, I judge by my fist in under the fitting. It is slow but it works. I hammer it down into ground and fitting is only hand tight.

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Farrell wrote: »

Count Mondego wrote: »

Are they not supposed to be aluminium?

I don't know but I wouldn't think so.

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Here's mine. Just simple stainless pipe and fitting. Open fitting then and push out sample with solid bar. Depth into soil, I judge by my fist in under the fitting. It is slow but it works. I hammer it down into ground and fitting is only hand tight.

Count Mondego wrote: »

Hugh 2 wrote: »

There's nothing wrong with it, just the price is mental. What kills me is that if they prices it at say 60 quid, they'd fly out the door. I'll be getting the welder out.

I recon the hardest part of making your own would getting tapered tube - this I recon is the secret it working without getting blocked or choked up.

Used the blue box one today (as in earlier picture ) it worked well it gave me the impression that it made smaller with cores (smaller than the funnel type corer I least time )I imagined that you would get more samples into box.

cj maxx

Does it make a much diiference what time of year you sample , would now give good reading

Hugh 2

cjmc wrote: »

Does it make a much diiference what time of year you sample , would now give good reading

Take samples as far away from spreading slurry as possible (I think 6 weeks plus recommended)
Fields that got slurry recently can wait till later other ways you could not trust the P and K results

cj maxx

Hugh 2 wrote: »

Take samples as far away from spreading slurry as possible (I think 6 weeks plus recommended)
Fields that got slurry recently can wait till later other ways you could not trust the P and K results

No slurry out here at all so good to go ?

Hugh 2

cjmc wrote: »

No slurry out here at all so good to go ?

Good to go
Local lab here charges 13/ sample for lime P and K

meangene

https://www.pitchcare.ie/shop/soil-samplers/index.html

Pitchcare Ireland has all sorts of soil sampling tools available and a lot of great information on taking soil samples and testing soil

djmc

Nice idea but pricey enough for a bit of stainless steel pipe.
If you were handy enough you could make up something similar with some old milk pipe.

meangene

Haha true enough!! There is a great load of info and resources on that site though, its very good

Limestone Cowboy

Does anyone know where a stainless one with a box/funnel to hold the cores can be got half reasonable. Girlfriend needs to get one because she has a load of samples to take for glas. Like the one in the pic.

Hugh 2

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Does anyone know where a stainless one with a box/funnel to hold the cores can be got half reasonable. Girlfriend needs to get one because she has a load of samples to take for glas. Like the one in the pic.

Afraid that half reasonable and the one in the pic are a contradiction.
Of the three types in DoneDeal at the moment I know which one I would go for:)

Limestone Cowboy

Hugh 2 wrote: »

Afraid that half reasonable and the one in the pic are a contradiction.
Of the three types in DoneDeal at the moment I know which one I would go for:)

I think I might have it sorted actually. Her brother is in Dublin doing his first phase in auto body repairs at the moment and said they have all the bits and pieces to make one up above and it would be a bit of practice with the tig welder for him.

Hugh 2

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

I think I might have it sorted actually. Her brother is in Dublin doing his first phase in auto body repairs at the moment and said they have all the bits and pieces to make one up above and it would be a bit of practice with the tig welder for him.

The tricky part to making one is the bit that is pushed into the ground.
Not only sharp in in the end that is pushed into the ground but also narrower and widens as the soil goes up into the hopper.

I am pretty sure that a straight bit of pipe will just constantly get blocked.

You might put up a pic when you get it.

Limestone Cowboy

Hugh 2 wrote: »

The tricky part to making one is the bit that is pushed into the ground.
Not only sharp in in the end that is pushed into the ground but also narrower and widens as the soil goes up into the hopper.

I am pretty sure that a straight bit of pipe will just constantly get blocked.

You might put up a pic when you get it.

Ya he said they have every sort of a machine under the sun above and should be able to put the taper on it. Will do.

Sami23

Quick query on taking samples.
I know you need to take it to a depth of 4 inches but is it the clay 4 inches down you use for the sample or the clay all the way from the surface to 4 inches down ?

Parishlad

Sami23 wrote: »

Quick query on taking samples.
I know you need to take it to a depth of 4 inches but is it the clay 4 inches down you use for the sample or the clay all the way from the surface to 4 inches down ?

I take the soil all the way down anyway. Take as many core samples as required and mix them all up in a small bucket before putting in to a zip lock bag and sending off.

patsy_mccabe

Sami23 wrote: »

Quick query on taking samples.
I know you need to take it to a depth of 4 inches but is it the clay 4 inches down you use for the sample or the clay all the way from the surface to 4 inches down ?

All the way down, from the top to 100mm down.

Count Mondego

Is there a requirement in Glas to soil sample X amount each year?

Sami23

Parishlad wrote: »

I take the soil all the way down anyway. Take as many core samples as required and mix them all up in a small bucket before putting in to a zip lock bag and sending off.

Thanks for that. Do you exclude the very top bit with grass on it or include that too ?

Parishlad

Sami23 wrote: »

Thanks for that. Do you exclude the very top bit with grass on it or include that too ?

Include all of it. To be honest, you'd hardly notice the grass at the top of the sample. Maybe that says more about my land though.:)