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endas 'era of greed ended'?

  • 19-01-2014 10:22pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭


    call me dim but can anyone explain the messianic Endas belief that the era of greed is over.
    What has his government done to change the culture of greed?
    has his government put legislation in place to moderate obsecene pension payments?
    what is different about irish water executive contracts visa vie previous state boards?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    Lano Lynn wrote: »
    call me dim but can anyone explain the messianic Endas belief that the era of greed is over.
    What has his government done to change the culture of greed?
    has his government put legislation in place to moderate obsecene pension payments?
    what is different about irish water executive contracts visa vie previous state boards?

    I'll tell Kenny when it's over, it's over when the likes of himself and bertie ahern get 1 pension and get it at the age of 65.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,039 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Note that many workers, including me, will get several pensions.

    That in itself isn't unusual, or a sign of greed.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Rightwing wrote: »
    I'll tell Kenny when it's over, it's over when the likes of himself and bertie ahern get 1 pension and get it at the age of 65.
    Geuze wrote: »
    Note that many workers, including me, will get several pensions.

    That in itself isn't unusual, or a sign of greed.

    But if you work for the state, your pensions from different jobs should join together and you receive the benefit at 65/66/67/68 whatever the law is at that time. If you have various pensions from the private sector then that's a different kettle of fish and you are entitled to them along as you meet the criteria of your employer.

    PS, I'm a state employee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭323


    Lano Lynn wrote: »
    call me dim but can anyone explain the messianic Endas belief that the era of greed is over.
    What has his government done to change the culture of greed?
    has his government put legislation in place to moderate obsecene pension payments?
    what is different about irish water executive contracts visa vie previous state boards?

    Would hardly call you dim, if anything its been getting much worse. But whats with the rhetorical questions?

    “Follow the trend lines, not the headlines,”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,127 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    I think its fairly obvious even before recent revelations, that the greed era is still alive and kicking!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    They have this political trick of saying something is a particular way over and over even though it clearly isn't.. it seeps into public consciousness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,895 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    Didn't Enda Kenny and his colleagues waste little time breaching pay caps for their "advisor's" and various hangers on? It's difficult to talk about ending the era of greed when his first act was to shove his snout into the trough. He's been a painfully sub-standard leader - big on talk, short on leadership.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Lano Lynn


    so have the current legislature blown the oppertunity to deliver real meaningful change?(society,economic and fiscal)
    and does the electrate that tolerates this crap deserve any better?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    How does one set themselves up for multiple pensions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Calibos


    One wonders will the lag time between better economic news, stats, projections and improved public sentiment and spending be a lot longer than it need be in this country because of the likes of the thread subject, no one being taken to account, rehab, crc, pensions etc.

    People that might have started thinking about loosening the purse strings a bit given some of the economic news, the fact that the worst of the cuts and tax increases and charges etc are already in place now. ie. more certainty than before about what their disposable income will be going forward. Instead they'll keep the purse strings pulled tight longer because they see given the above, that nothing's really changed at all. Trust in those in positions of power has not changed because they haven't changed. ie. I need to keep saving and paying down debt as fast as I can because by the looks of things it's only a matter of time before the powers that be **** it all up again.

    Substantive change in the way things are done wouldn't just be the right thing to do in and of itself but would improve consumer confidence and domestic demand IMHO.


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