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Really Confused with CAO

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  • 19-01-2014 2:36am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 19


    'Biology and agricultural science may not be presented as two of the six subjects required for minimum entry purposes, and they may not be presented together to satisfy course specific requirements. However, both may be used for scoring purposes.'
    PLEASE HELP
    does this mean i can't include both in my top 6??!


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 8,572 Mod ✭✭✭✭Canard


    No, that's what it means by scoring purposes. What it means is this:
    You're going for a course which requires 2 sciences.
    You're doing those two and also, say, chemistry.
    You get A1s and those two, and a D1 in chemistry.
    You might have 550 points, but if you needed a C3 in two sciences, you won't technically have it - since biology and ag science can't be presented together, and you didn't get it in chemistry.

    Does that make sense? Hope it helps :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,381 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Bellaxo wrote: »
    'Biology and agricultural science may not be presented as two of the six subjects required for minimum entry purposes, and they may not be presented together to satisfy course specific requirements. However, both may be used for scoring purposes.'
    PLEASE HELP
    does this mean i can't include both in my top 6??!

    You can count any 6 subjects in your top 6 for points and that is separate to the course requirement. If the course you want to do says you need two sciences but not biology/ag science, then you must have a third, presumably because the college considers biology and ag to be too similar and they are looking for physics or chemistry.

    If you have biology, ag science, chemistry for example you meet their requirements for entry if you have the grades they want in those subjects

    So usually in a science degree it might say

    Minimum entry requirements: 2 HC3 and 4 OD3 : so if you have two honours and 4 passes in any subjects you meet requirements so long as biology/ag don't make up 2 of the six, but typically most people have 7 subjects so it doesn't matter.

    Second requirement: Two lab sciences not including biology/ag combo with at least a higher C3 in both subjects.

    So you get A1 biology, B1 ag science, C1 chemistry. You meet requirements there
    Also A1 Biology D1 Ag Science A1 chemistry meets requirements
    A1 Biology A1 Ag Science D1 Chemistry does not
    D1 Biology A1 Ag Science A1 Chemistry also meets requirements


    Third hurdle: Points from any six subjects and you get

    English A1
    Irish B1
    Maths A1
    French B1
    Ag Sci A1
    Biol B1
    Chem C1

    You would not be counting chemistry from this set of results as it is your lowest scoring points subject, you would count the other 6 as it says both biology / ag science may both be used for scoring purposes.




    This is similar to people taking up a foreign language outside their seven subjects and just looking for OD3 in it so they meet foreign language requirement, particularly for many NUI degree courses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 Bellaxo


    Canard wrote: »
    No, that's what it means by scoring purposes. What it means is this:
    You're going for a course which requires 2 sciences.
    You're doing those two and also, say, chemistry.
    You get A1s and those two, and a D1 in chemistry.
    You might have 550 points, but if you needed a C3 in two sciences, you won't technically have it - since biology and ag science can't be presented together, and you didn't get it in chemistry.

    Does that make sense? Hope it helps :)

    thanks a mill for the reply and thanks so much!:):)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 Bellaxo


    You can count any 6 subjects in your top 6 for points and that is separate to the course requirement. If the course you want to do says you need two sciences but not biology/ag science, then you must have a third, presumably because the college considers biology and ag to be too similar and they are looking for physics or chemistry.

    If you have biology, ag science, chemistry for example you meet their requirements for entry if you have the grades they want in those subjects

    So usually in a science degree it might say

    Minimum entry requirements: 2 HC3 and 4 OD3 : so if you have two honours and 4 passes in any subjects you meet requirements so long as biology/ag don't make up 2 of the six, but typically most people have 7 subjects so it doesn't matter.


    Second requirement: Two lab sciences not including biology/ag combo with at least a higher C3 in both subjects.

    So you get A1 biology, B1 ag science, C1 chemistry. You meet requirements there
    Also A1 Biology D1 Ag Science A1 chemistry meets requirements
    A1 Biology A1 Ag Science D1 Chemistry does not
    D1 Biology A1 Ag Science A1 Chemistry also meets requirements


    Third hurdle: Points from any six subjects and you get

    English A1
    Irish B1
    Maths A1
    French B1
    Ag Sci A1
    Biol B1
    Chem C1

    You would not be counting chemistry from this set of results as it is your lowest scoring points subject, you would count the other 6 as it says both biology / ag science may both be used for scoring purposes.




    This is similar to people taking up a foreign language outside their seven subjects and just looking for OD3 in it so they meet foreign language requirement, particularly for many NUI degree courses.

    thanks a mill for the reply and thanks so much!:):)


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