Overseas sale..need advice

Keiweb

Hi guys I need a bit of help with this,I am selling my car and a buyer just contacted me say he will buy but is in USA so will arrange a shipper himself once I have recieved payment from him..he will pay through paypal so is this secure and how do I actually get my hands on the actual cash after??

Thanks for any help in advance

reelkidmusic

It's a scam... Plenty info on this from a quick Google search!

whomitconcerns

short of stealing the cash from him you are never going to get it if you sell that car....

PLUG71

The only safe way imo is a bank transfer!

What kind of car is it if you don't mint me asking?

Keiweb

Really maybe I'm bein naive but he says he works overseas and will arrange everything! It's only a vw golf so he hardly a collecter

PLUG71

Keiweb wrote: »

Really maybe I'm bein naive but he says he works overseas and will arrange everything! It's only a vw golf so he hardly a collecter

Sounds well suspect to be honest!

Keiweb

Says he hasn't got acces to his bank as he's on a cruise liner as a marine engineer,I asked for a bank transfer and he said he can only do paypal but will arrange collection of car after I've recieved payment?

_Kaiser_

Keiweb wrote: »

Really maybe I'm bein naive but he says he works overseas and will arrange everything! It's only a vw golf so he hardly a collecter

Definitely a scam. Avoid unless you just want to give your car away!

Plus think about it.. it's a VW Golf. Why would a buyer in the US want a right-hand drive standard hatchback? It's hardly something exotic or a supercar

jinkybhoy

complete scam - as previous poster said - google it - been on the go for ages.

Anan1

Keiweb wrote: »

Says he hasn't got acces to his bank as he's on a cruise liner as a marine engineer,I asked for a bank transfer and he said he can only do paypal but will arrange collection of car after I've recieved payment?

That's a well-worn scam, he'll offer to overpay and have you refund the difference. Forget about him and move on.

Keiweb

Exactly so it don't add up,,I don't know what to do now as I've another car I want lined up

PLUG71

Keiweb wrote: »

Says he hasn't got acces to his bank as he's on a cruise liner as a marine engineer,I asked for a bank transfer and he said he can only do paypal but will arrange collection of car after I've recieved payment?

Well if the money shows in your Paypal account you can tell him once you transfer the money from Paypal to your bank you are not prepared to release the car.

_Kaiser_

Keiweb wrote: »

Exactly so it don't add up,,I don't know what to do now as I've another car I want lined up

You keep looking for a legitimate buyer is your only option I'm afraid. Golf's are always in demand (if the price is right and it's in good condition)

_Kaiser_

PLUG71 wrote: »

Well if the money shows in your Paypal account you can tell him once you transfer the money from Paypal to your bank you are not prepared to release the car.

Best to just avoid it entirely than getting into any messing like that

maceocc2

Honestly I wouldn't accept payment for a car through PayPal, especially given that it's overseas, PayPal won't offer seller protection for it.

The fact that it's only a golf just sets off alarm bells, golfs/rabbits are VERY prolific in the US and have a huge following so there are plenty of them over there.

I can't see why they would want to import one, not only from Europe, but from a RHD country.

PLUG71

On reflection its seems weird that he cant get a golf wherever he is located!

Leave it mate on, its not worth the risk!!

Keiweb

Thanks guys much appreciated

munchkin_utd

what if he paid you by western union to a fictious name, you take the cash in cash at one of those places where folks send back cash to their parents in the 3rd world, tell the scammer you havent recieved the money and sell the car to someone that is a genuine buyer?

Anan1

munchkin_utd wrote: »

what if he paid you by western union to a fictious name, you take the cash in cash at one of those places where folks send back cash to their parents in the 3rd world, tell the scammer you havent recieved the money and sell the car to someone that is a genuine buyer?

You mean what if the scammer wasn't a scammer but you were?

Kenny Logins

Keiweb wrote: »

Really maybe I'm bein naive but he says he works overseas and will arrange everything! It's only a vw golf so he hardly a collecter

So he's working on a cruise ship and urgently needs a VW Golf sent to his home in America, and from the hundreds advertised in Ireland he has chosen yours, has offered to pay in full without ever seeing it or having it checked out, and has no access banking, or phone I presume?

Seems legit.

Irishcrx

Complete scam, has been going on for years.Only ever accept a person buying a car in person, cash is king or a bank transfer and only release when money is in your account. Very rarely with someone buy from overseas unless they are looking for a rare car, I've bought in the UK before but always call the seller beforehand and agree to give him a deposit, then I go over there myself and pay the balance in cash so I can check the car over as well.

Can't believe people still fall for these chancers, don't feel bad though it does happen but steer well clear of it you'll sell your golf over here there a popular motor!

ironclaw

Obviously a scam but interesting what people are saying about the Golf being popular in America. Clocked up close to 4000 miles on the West Coast (California, Nevada, Idaho, Oregon) in 2012, and pretty sure I didn't meet a Golf, VW or BMW for that matter.

galwaytt

Irishcrx wrote: »

Complete scam, has been going on for years.Only ever accept a person buying a car in person, cash is king or a bank transfer and only release when money is in your account. Very rarely with someone buy from overseas unless they are looking for a rare car, I've bought in the UK before but always call the seller beforehand and agree to give him a deposit, then I go over there myself and pay the balance in cash so I can check the car over as well.

Can't believe people still fall for these chancers, don't feel bad though it does happen but steer well clear of it you'll sell your golf over here there a popular motor!

Yes it is a scam, but consider this: 2 of my friends have bought bikes over the 'net from the US, and had them shipped. Worked out o.k. -I've seen and driven them both. Now, if the sellers had pulled down the 'foreign buyer - must be a scam' thing on them, it wouldn't have happened.

Just saying that it is possible to transact business on the 'net without getting scammed, but yes, do be very careful.

Kenny Logins

ironclaw wrote: »

Obviously a scam but interesting what people are saying about the Golf being popular in America. Clocked up close to 4000 miles on the West Coast (California, Nevada, Idaho, Oregon) in 2012, and pretty sure I didn't meet a Golf, VW or BMW for that matter.

Rabbit.

keithsfleet

Email him and tell him your not entirely sure if he's a time waster or a legitimate buyer.

Ask him to send a picture of himself.

Then tell him he could of gotten that picture off the Internet and ask for a picture of him holding a frozen chicken, stating that frozen chickens are a sign of trust here (don't state where you are)

After he has sent that ask him to send a picture of himself with a recent newspaper to show that it's a current picture.

When you receive that tell him you can't see the date in the paper and would he kindly retake it with today's date written in black maker on his forehead.

Keep it going for as long as possible and try have a bit of fun.

reelkidmusic

galwaytt wrote: »

Yes it is a scam, but consider this: 2 of my friends have bought bikes over the 'net from the US, and had them shipped. Worked out o.k. -I've seen and driven them both. Now, if the sellers had pulled down the 'foreign buyer - must be a scam' thing on them, it wouldn't have happened.

Just saying that it is possible to transact business on the 'net without getting scammed, but yes, do be very careful.

Obviously there are genuine sellers on the net. Many of us have done successful transactions over the net. But seriously, was it not pretty obvious that this particular one appeared to be a scam from the beginning? I suppose OP, the buyer is so friendly and nice that he is offering to pay more than your asking price?

Keiweb

I've asked him about his offer..Will pay close to askin price and told him I'm wary of potential scam so he said just set up the paypal acc and he will transfer the money and I will be notified of payment then collection of car will be done at my convenience when funds are deposited

blastman

It's a scam, it's an old scam and it's been discussed a million times already, why are we even talking about it?

jinkybhoy

Keiweb wrote: »

I've asked him about his offer..Will pay close to askin price and told him I'm wary of potential scam so he said just set up the paypal acc and he will transfer the money and I will be notified of payment then collection of car will be done at my convenience when funds are deposited

It's a scam - if you go ahead and try to do this "transaction", you will lose money. You're looking for advice and you've been given sound advice - Take it.

Anan1

Keiweb wrote: »

I've asked him about his offer..Will pay close to askin price and told him I'm wary of potential scam so he said just set up the paypal acc and he will transfer the money and I will be notified of payment then collection of car will be done at my convenience when funds are deposited

Ask yourself how much it would cost your 'buyer' to pay for, ship, modify to comply with local regs, test and register your RHD EU-spec car in the US. Then ask yourself how much it would cost them to buy the car there. Then stop wasting your own time on this.

Kenny Logins

Keiweb wrote: »

I've asked him about his offer..Will pay close to askin price and told him I'm wary of potential scam so he said just set up the paypal acc and he will transfer the money and I will be notified of payment then collection of car will be done at my convenience when funds are deposited

What!?

bazz26

For the love of God I cannot believe some people still get duped by these type scams.

Surely it's so obvious at this stage? Guy on another continent contacts you to buy a car that is neither rare nor a collectors item and has the steering wheel on the wrong side for him. He then agrees to pay nearly the full asking price without having someone inspect the car first. He then wants to conduct the sale through his shipping company. Do I need to go on?

If something sounds too good then it normally is.

Keiweb

Too shady upon reflection..decided to not go ahead with this "deal"...sound advice lads and I'm gonna take it

Anan1

bazz26 wrote: »

For the love of God I cannot believe some people still get duped by these type scams.

Greed clouds judgement, it's sadly a very human response.

gallag

Can't believe people are still falling for this crap, at this point they deserve to lose their money.

seankb

Def a scam same thing happend to a friend of mine recently. You send your paypal details he then says he transfered the money + the shipping costs and can you transfer the cost of shipping to some other account. Also sends a fake paypal receipt.

munchkin_utd

Anan1 wrote: »

You mean what if the scammer wasn't a scammer but you were?

nope, I mean let the scammer pay you cash in an untraceable way, you deny you ever got it meaning in effect that you have scammed the scammer!

biko

Google "car paypal scam"

hi5

He cannot register a car in the US from outside the US unless its over 25 years old.

bodhi085

I once had a car for sale on done deal and I was contacted by a guy from the states who was serving in "the Irish Republic Royal Navy" on a ship out in the pacific. He wanted the car for his return to shore in the USA. He said he would send the full payment and shipping costs via PayPal with immediate effect. All I had to do was send him my PayPal link. I emailed him back telling him ireland didn't have a Royal Navy! Never heard back. Weird that. ��

gallag

bodhi085 wrote: »

I once had a car for sale on done deal and I was contacted by a guy from the states who was serving in "the Irish Republic Royal Navy" on a ship out in the pacific. He wanted the car for his return to shore in the USA. He said he would send the full payment and shipping costs via PayPal with immediate effect. All I had to do was send him my PayPal link. I emailed him back telling him ireland didn't have a Royal Navy! Never heard back. Weird that. ��

All hail the king of the Republic! !!!

Anan1

munchkin_utd wrote: »

nope, I mean let the scammer pay you cash in an untraceable way, you deny you ever got it meaning in effect that you have scammed the scammer!

I don't think you quite understand what a scammer does.

Gumbo

2014 and people still consider these arrangements!

ShadowHearth

Keiweb wrote: »

Says he hasn't got acces to his bank as he's on a cruise liner as a marine engineer,I asked for a bank transfer and he said he can only do paypal but will arrange collection of car after I've recieved payment?

Its a scam.

colm_mcm

i think it's been established that it's a scam