Is it legal to purchase Prescription tablets from GB?

vicwatson

Is it ok to buy prescription tablets online from a pharmacy in GB with a prescription? By sending the prescription on to the pharmacist in advance.

It this legal?

Nonoperational

No.

vicwatson

Nonoperational wrote: »

No.

No, it's illegal ?

suds1984

The purchase of prescription only medicines by mail order (I.e online or over telephone) is illegal. If you do you probably will get them confiscated

vicwatson

suds1984 wrote: »

The purchase of prescription only medicines by mail order (I.e online or over telephone) is illegal. If you do you probably will get them confiscated

But if I buy them instore it's ok??

What about NI, is it illegal to buy them therer and drive south??

suds1984

vicwatson wrote: »

But if I buy them instore it's ok??

What about NI, is it illegal to buy them therer and drive south??

No that's fine. You can bring them across the border yourself no problem.

GerardKeating

vicwatson wrote: »

Is it ok to buy prescription tablets online from a pharmacy in GB with a prescription? By sending the prescription on to the pharmacist in advance.

It this legal?

Depends.

Firstly (as mentioned already) You have to go in Person, you cannot mail Order.

Secondly, You might have "issues" if you cross the border with certain items, if they are banned or restricted in Ireland, for example if you had a prescription for morphine or the like.

On a semi-related topic, some OTC items in the UK are prescription only in Ireland.

vicwatson

Pharmacists are willing to send to Ireland no problem, this I know and if they are sent in plain packaging and it's stuff one has been taking already (so no issues in taking the tabs) then its unlikely they would be stopped ??

Nonoperational

That's for you to decide. It's illegal to have medications posted to you from outside the State. If you want to risk breaking the law then that's your call.

GerardKeating

GerardKeating wrote: »

Depends.

Firstly (as mentioned already) You have to go in Person, you cannot mail Order.

Secondly, You might have "issues" if you cross the border with certain items, if they are banned or restricted in Ireland, for example if you had a prescription for morphine or the like.

On a semi-related topic, some OTC items in the UK are prescription only in Ireland.

If you have an Irish prescription then what would be the issue? Isn't Morphine ok with prescription here?

vicwatson

Nonoperational wrote: »

That's for you to decide. It's illegal to have medications posted to you from outside the State. If you want to risk breaking the law then that's your call.

Anyone know the act it's illegal under as a matter of interest?

washman3

vicwatson wrote: »

Anyone know the act it's illegal under as a matter of interest?

Most likely the Fianna Fail Cronyism act (they did not want to upset their pharmacy buddies) and this outdated law means Irish people have to pay through the nose for their medicine.
Strange that you can buy prescription medicine here and send it to almost any country in the world, no questions asked...

vicwatson

washman3 wrote: »

Most likely the Fianna Fail Cronyism act (they did not want to upset their pharmacy buddies) and this outdated law means Irish people have to pay through the nose for their medicine.
Strange that you can buy prescription medicine here and send it to almost any country in the world, no questions asked...

1/3rd the price in England vs here, a complete joke altogether

allthedoyles

Its dangerous for you to buy online unless you know its a reputable source .

There is a new company in Ireland and they are going to offer the same prices as North .

see this :

Healthwave, a recently opened Dundrum pharmacy, is promising to match cross-Border prices for generic medications. Under its scheme, people availing of the savings will have to join a subscription service with an upfront fee of €25 a year

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/pharmacy-promises-to-match-drug-prices-in-north-1.1656726

Ausone

S.I. No. 540/2003 - Medicinal Products (Prescription and Control of Supply) Regulations 2003

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2003/en/si/0540.html

“supply by mail order” means any supply made, after solicitation of custom by the supplier, or by another person in the chain of supply whether inside or outside of the State, without the supplier and the customer being simultaneously present and using a means of communication at a distance, whether written or electronic, to convey the custom solicitation and the order for supply;


Prohibition of mail order supply of medicinal products

19. (1) A person shall not supply by mail order any medicinal product.

(2) A person who is the owner or occupier of any premises shall not use or permit the use of any such premises for the receipt, collection or transmission of orders or correspondence in connection with the supply by mail order of medicinal products.

(3) In the circumstances where the particular address of the premises referred to in paragraph (2) is not identifiable due to the use of a post office box, telephone number or an electronic mail address, any person making available facilities for such use shall be deemed to be the occupier of premises being used for or in connection with the supply by mail order of medicinal products.

Yakuza

Presumably it's ok for a family member or friend physically purchasing them in the UK (something that's OTC there but Rx only here) and sending it?

I still can't see the logic online purchases being illegal (assuming you're buying from a reputable site and not some eBay randomer), other than to protect the interests of drug companies and/or pharmacies here.

username123

I used to buy an OTC medicine online from Amazon that was prescription only here. It was worth the risk of confiscation, it cost 60 euro GP fee plus 15 euro pharmacy price here, and under 5 euro online. It was never stopped.

I wouldn't hesitate to order online again, you can check the respectability of the site you are ordering from, I've used UK pharmacies on online that also have a high street presence, if the site is legit they will have their bricks and mortar address and registered pharmacy number too.

I wouldn't buy medicine off some low volume seller in China but legitimate sites are fine to risk confiscation with IMO.

locum-motion

Yakuza wrote: »

Presumably it's ok for a family member or friend physically purchasing them in the UK (something that's OTC there but Rx only here) and sending it?...

The law has been quoted above. If the customer and the supplier are not physically located in the same place, then the act of placing the order is illegal. So when you telephone your cousin and say "Here, will you nip into Sainsbury's Pharmacy, buy me X, and post it to me?", you have broken the law.

Additionally, you would be breaking other laws to do with importation of medicines (unless you happen to hold a Medical Wholesaler's License from the IMB that you didn't mention).

cobham

I thought it was some kind of offence for a pharmacist to sell/dispense to a person who was a non resident for example the chemists in Newry. Perhaps it is just their own code of practice?

locum-motion

Yakuza wrote: »

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I still can't see the logic online purchases being illegal (assuming you're buying from a reputable site and not some eBay randomer), other than to protect the interests of drug companies and/or pharmacies here.

Like all of the laws covering the supply of medicines, it is to protect the interests of the public. Medicines are not books, and they're not televisions. They are potentially dangerous if used incorrectly, and the decision on whether it is appropriate to use a given medication in a given situation is made by a professional who is more aware of the potential problems than you are. The level of risk for a given medicine has been assessed, and an appropriate level of control has been established. For example, some things are considered safe enough to be sold from your local petrol station (but even then, you can only buy small quantities). Some things are sold from pharmacies. And some things, with higher levels of risk associated with them, can only be ordered by a doctor. Even in those cases, the functions of prescribing and supplying are kept separate, both to protect the patient from 'prescribing for profit' and so that the supplier (the pharmacist) can act as a 'goalkeeper' to catch any errors.

All of this is done to protect the patient. To protect them from unscrupulous prescribers or suppliers. To protect them from accidental errors. But also to protect them from themselves. The general public does not have the appropriate knowledge and expertise to decide what medicines they can use safely and efficaciously. Therefore, the law has taken those decisions away from the general public.

Attempting to pervert the law, by bypassing the safeguards that it has put in place, is (rightly) illegal.

locum-motion

cobham wrote: »

I thought it was some kind of offence for a pharmacist to sell/dispense to a person who was a non resident for example the chemists in Newry. Perhaps it is just their own code of practice?

Why would it be "...some kind of offence..." for a pharmacist in Newry (or any other border town, like - I dunno - Strasbourg) to dispense a legally valid prescription for a person standing in front of them, just because they happen to live on the other side of the border?

Answer: it's not.

It's not even illegal (in UK laws) for the Newry pharmacist to post it to the patient in the ROI.

It's also not illegal (under either set of laws) for the patient to drive up and get it themselves.

BUT it IS illegal, in ROI law, to place an order via post, telephone or internet with any pharmacy (or any other outlet) whether inside the state or outside, with the intention of having medicines delivered via post or courier. It is also illegal to import medicines into the state if you don't hold the appropriate license.

Yakuza

locum-motion wrote: »

Like all of the laws covering the supply of medicines, it is to protect the interests of the public. Medicines are not books, and they're not televisions. They are potentially dangerous if used incorrectly, and the decision on whether it is appropriate to use a given medication in a given situation is made by a professional who is more aware of the potential problems than you are. The level of risk for a given medicine has been assessed, and an appropriate level of control has been established. For example, some things are considered safe enough to be sold from your local petrol station (but even then, you can only buy small quantities). Some things are sold from pharmacies. And some things, with higher levels of risk associated with them, can only be ordered by a doctor. Even in those cases, the functions of prescribing and supplying are kept separate, both to protect the patient from 'prescribing for profit' and so that the supplier (the pharmacist) can act as a 'goalkeeper' to catch any errors.

All of this is done to protect the patient. To protect them from unscrupulous prescribers or suppliers. To protect them from accidental errors. But also to protect them from themselves. The general public does not have the appropriate knowledge and expertise to decide what medicines they can use safely and efficaciously. Therefore, the law has taken those decisions away from the general public.

Attempting to pervert the law, by bypassing the safeguards that it has put in place, is (rightly) illegal.

Thank you for that thorough reply and I fully agree that it is folly for an non-expert person to self-diagnose and/or auto-prescribe. However, I still don't see the problem with someone, in the posession of a script (having gone to a doctor to determine the ailment) which specifies what to take and in what dosage, filling that script in a manner of their own choosing. Again, I'm talking about getting the medication from a reputable and trusted source and not some random internet site. Outlawing it because some people are dumb enough to buy any old crap from who knows where just smacks of Nanny-statism

locum-motion

Yakuza wrote: »

Thank you for that thorough reply and I fully agree that it is folly for an non-expert person to self-diagnose and/or auto-prescribe. However, I still don't see the problem with someone, in the posession of a script (having gone to a doctor to determine the ailment) which specifies what to take and in what dosage, filling that script in a manner of their own choosing. Again, I'm talking about getting the medication from a reputable and trusted source and not some random internet site. Outlawing it because some people are dumb enough to buy any old crap from who knows where just smacks of Nanny-statism

Because it effectively removes the 'goalkeeper' part of the pharmacist's function.

ps. You have acknowledged the folly of self-diagnosis and auto-prescribing and deplored nanny-statism in the same post. You can't have it both ways.
What you're saying is: "I want to be allowed do it, because I think I can be trusted to do it right. But I don't think that that uneducated oik down the street should be allowed to do it."
But to put it bluntly, in the eyes of the law you ARE the uneducated oik! (Please take that in the light-hearted jokey manner in which I offer it!)

username123

locum-motion wrote: »

Because it effectively removes the 'goalkeeper' part of the pharmacist's function.

How? Don't UK pharmacists do the goalkeeper bit just as well as Irish ones?

gctest50

vicwatson wrote: »

Pharmacists are willing to send to Ireland no problem, this I know and if they are sent in plain packaging and it's stuff one has been taking already (so no issues in taking the tabs) then its unlikely they would be stopped ??

That is another problem - some stuff is easily damaged by high or low temperature

By getting it in plain packaging you don't have the assurance of the proper chain of transport

username123

gctest50 wrote: »

That is another problem - some stuff is easily damaged by high or low temperature

By getting it in plain packaging you don't have the assurance of the proper chain of transport

If you order from somewhere legit presumably they will tell you that or not post it.

As far as I can tell the excuses being made here are only to cover up the fact that it's to protect the interests of drug companies/pharmacies here.

We are not talking about uneducated people deciding to randomly buy drugs from dodgy online dealers. We are talking about someone getting a prescription from an doctor and choosing a uk pharmacy to fill it instead of an Irish one.

Let's face it, the Irish public are being ripped off on medicine prices.

peckerhead

The Irish Medicines Board are the relevant authority. They confiscated 100 (branded) paracetamol tablets I'd ordered online at 1/20th of the typical high street price here and sent me a big finger-wagging letter demanding to know where I had bought this "controlled substance" and how I had found the product.

I told them I'd typed the word "paracetamol" into eBay.

Protectionist fúckwads.

Condo131

vicwatson wrote: »

Pharmacists are willing to send to Ireland no problem, this I know and if they are sent in plain packaging and it's stuff one has been taking already (so no issues in taking the tabs) then its unlikely they would be stopped ??

If you pay someone to send anything (not just medicine) to you they'll clearly take your money and send it. If prescription medicines are sent through the post, they are liable for confiscation - and a huge percentage are. Even with the cheaper medicines prices available abroad, confiscation is *VERY* costly. Customs are aware that illicit things are sent in plain packaging :rolleyes: and check accordingly.

Some time ago, I rang the IMB about importing my meds, telling them I could fly to the UK and back, see a GP there, and fill my prescription...and still save money. The person I spoke to, afaicr, it was the CEO, was very sympathetic but gave me clear replies as to what I could & couldn't do.

Summary:
Getting prescription meds through the post is out
Getting a relative/friend/family member to buy them and bring them, in person, through customs is prohibited - they MUST be for personal use.
You may bring up to 3 months supply, on your person, through customs - I regularly bring 6 months and have brought a year's supply in, but, when I bring this much in, I say my prayers. If stopped, everything may be confiscated - you won't even be allowed keep the 3 months supply.

*WARNING* There are loads & loads of online "pharmacies" that appear/purport to be based in the UK and Canada, in particular (in my experience), but when you delve deeper, you find that they are in India & China, again in particular. If they are legitimate & upfront, why conceal the fact that they are based somewhere else - NOT a good sign. Caveat emptor! ...There are a lot of "vampires" out there!

vicwatson

Customs are aware that illicit things are sent in plain packaging and check accordingly.

Yeh??

I've had loads of packages sent from GB to Ireland in plain paper (not pharmaceuticals) and not one has ever been checked.

How do they check them?

Condo131

vicwatson wrote: »

Yeh??

I've had loads of packages sent from GB to Ireland in plain paper (not pharmaceuticals) and not one has ever been checked.

How do they check them?

This a forum for health questions. I'm not going to debate plain packages of non pharmaceuticals with you here (or elsewhere).

A couple of months ago, there was a major item on RTE about seizures of medicines imported through the post. Quick Google didn't find a reference to that. I did find this recent article in the Indo. The matter is also covered in this Oireachtas Report.

How do they check them? How would I know? Obviously one of the likely checks is x-ray, same as in Airports.

As for the OP's original Q: See here.

Edit:
Relevant RTE item (Sep 2011)
Another RTE item (June 2013)
RTE item (Oct 2010)

Journal.ie (Jan 2014)

Yakuza

locum-motion wrote: »

Because it effectively removes the 'goalkeeper' part of the pharmacist's function.

ps. You have acknowledged the folly of self-diagnosis and auto-prescribing and deplored nanny-statism in the same post. You can't have it both ways.
What you're saying is: "I want to be allowed do it, because I think I can be trusted to do it right. But I don't think that that uneducated oik down the street should be allowed to do it."
But to put it bluntly, in the eyes of the law you ARE the uneducated oik! (Please take that in the light-hearted jokey manner in which I offer it!)

Not quite, what I'm saying is "I want to be allowed to do it, and the uneducated oiks down the street too". I don't care if they want to order something with who knows what provenance, that's their (ill-informed) choice.

To be fair, I am talking about filling a prescription that has been given to you by a doctor, so I am not talking about someone auto-prescribing. I am talking about being free to fill a script in a manner and at a cost of one's one choosing.

With respect, I think it is perfectly possible to be against both auto-prescribing and nanny-statism as there is plenty of middle ground for a reasonable person to hold their view. Nanny statism is legislating for everyone based on the actions of a minority, the opposite of democracy in my opinion.

To use reductio ad absurdum, should, for example, car driving be removed from the purview of the general public, as some uneducated oik (:)) might drive it into a tree? Of course not, so why should filling a script? Whatever the stated good intentions of the legislation above, I can't help but detect a faint whiff of protectionism in it as well.

Personally, I am in the lucky position of not having to break these laws anyway. My daughter's diabetes meds are obtainable under the LTI scheme here, and my wife and kids travel to to visit family in Spain several times a year where they can buy stuff over the counter, and as my brother-in-law is a doctor, they can even get prescription items.

At this point I'm going to bow out of this thread, with apologies to the OP for dragging it off-topic a bit. There seems to be polar opposite opinions which presumably ne'er the twain shall meet. I'll sign off stating mine: I think it is unfair that it is illegal to fill a script in any manner other than presenting yourself at a pharmacy (wherever it may be).

locum-motion

username123 wrote: »

How? Don't UK pharmacists do the goalkeeper bit just as well as Irish ones?

If the UK pharmacist is in a warehouse in some industrial estate in North Yorkshire, and you're in some suburban housing estate in Lucan, just how is that pharmacist going to have a chat to you about why your med was prescribed, what other meds you might be taking, what allergies you might or might not have, how to take your meds etc etc etc?

username123

locum-motion wrote: »

If the UK pharmacist is in a warehouse in some industrial estate in North Yorkshire, and you're in some suburban housing estate in Lucan, just how is that pharmacist going to have a chat to you about why your med was prescribed, what other meds you might be taking, what allergies you might or might not have, how to take your meds etc etc etc?

When you're on the phone to him placing your order maybe?

I'm talking about a legitimate pharmacy, not a warehouse. A bricks and mortar shop that you are familiar with. Why can't I phone a pharmacy in the uk and place my prescription order on the phone for him to post.

Most online ordering forms for pharmacies have question sections that ask all of that info.

You seem to be working off the assumption that all phone or online orders are to dodgy places. While it's important to highlight that risk I'm actually commenting on how nonsensical it is that the Irish public are prevented from availing of legitimate pharmacy services because of protectionism in this country.

Interestingly, I'm not sure my Irish pharmacist has ever asked me anything, they've just filled the prescriptions and taken the money.

The OP has a proper prescription, wants to use an actual uk pharmacy without having to travel, but the law prevents it. Any justification given seems to make false assumptions re warehouses or uneducated people sourcing prescription meds with no script. Why? That's not what's being asked, what's being asked is Why can't someone fax their script to a uk pharmacy and have them post the goods while payment is made by paypal? There is no reason except to protect the interests of Irish pharmacies.

locum-motion

username123 wrote: »

When you're on the phone to him placing your order maybe?

That's no substitute for face to face conversation.

username123 wrote: »

I'm talking about a legitimate pharmacy, not a warehouse. A bricks and mortar shop that you are familiar with. Why can't I phone a pharmacy in the uk and place my prescription order on the phone for him to post.

Internet pharmacies (in oher countries, since they don't exist here) are not high street bricks and mortar pharmacies. High street bricks and mortar pharmacies do not have time to operate internet businesses. Internet pharmacies are industial warehouses in industrial estates.

username123 wrote: »

Most online ordering forms for pharmacies have question sections that ask all of that info.

Hmmmm...
And how easy is it to lie convincingly when typing, as opposed to when you're face to face?

username123 wrote: »

You seem to be working off the assumption that all phone or online orders are to dodgy places.

While it's important to highlight that risk I'm actually commenting on how nonsensical it is that the Irish public are prevented from availing of legitimate pharmacy services because of protectionism in this country.

Interestingly, I'm not sure my Irish pharmacist has ever asked me anything, they've just filled the prescriptions and taken the money.

The OP has a proper prescription, wants to use an actual uk pharmacy without having to travel, but the law prevents it. Any justification given seems to make false assumptions re warehouses or uneducated people sourcing prescription meds with no script. Why? That's not what's being asked, what's being asked is Why can't someone fax their script to a uk pharmacy and have them post the goods while payment is made by paypal? There is no reason except to protect the interests of Irish pharmacies.

Yes, absolutely it's because of protectionism. It's to protect YOU. (and at least in part, the person you're being protected from is yourself!)

sam34

ok folks, the op's question of whether this is illegal has been answered. I'm happy for the thread to remain open for discussion of the reasons/appropriateness of this law.

but- no further mentions of websites to use or postal services to use or other ways to circumvent the law on this issue.

vicwatson

I'm not going to debate plain packages of non pharmaceuticals with you here (or elsewhere).

No one is asking you to, it's just that you purport to know that Customs know what's in a plain packet -

Customs are aware that illicit things are sent in plain packaging and check accordingly

I'd like to know how they can tell, assuming you are correct.

I'm certainly not advocating breaking the law etc etc btw.


I find the law a complete ass in this area and believe it is just designed as a protectionist measure - simples.

How can I send a prescription to a bricks and mortar chemist shop in Manchester and they will fulfil my prescription with the EXACT SAME medicine as I buy here on prescription for 1/3 the price

As as this is the long term illness forum you'll realise that one doesnt need any advise from a pharmacist etc

It's like buying a cd from a record shop in Manchester vs a cd in HMV in Dublin, except the cd in HMV Dublin is 2/3rds more expensive and the law states you cannot buy that cd in Manchester !! Why is the law as such?

And, what happened to the free market, common market, free trade across Europe? This law is an ass IMO

username123

locum-motion wrote: »

Yes, absolutely it's because of protectionism. It's to protect YOU. (and at least in part, the person you're being protected from is yourself!)

To protect me from spending getting a better deal elsewhere! Im sorry, but none of the arguments you make are convincing on the subject.

I fail to see how the transaction of ordering my prescription branded nasal spray from a UK pharmacy versus walking into a pharmacy in Dublin and getting it, has any elements in it that I need to be protected from myself on! Its just nonsense to suggest otherwise!

Condo131

vicwatson wrote: »

No one is asking you to, it's just that you purport to know that Customs know what's in a plain packet -

I'd like to know how they can tell, assuming you are correct.

Right vicwatson, You've got the answer to your original thread opening question. Now you want to know how they actually check. To what end? I'm not interest in getting into the technology of how they do it, be it x-ray or other, or simply opening and resealing. I doubt if anyone else here is interested in that aspect either.

vicwatson wrote: »

As as this is the long term illness forum you'll realise that one doesnt need any advise from a pharmacist etc

?????? This is the first time you've posted in the LTI forum. Care to inform us of the long term illness you are concerned about? Or what medication you are talking about. I may be wrong, but I think you are taking this thread into an area that is, imho, probably ill advised.

Mods please note.

vicwatson

Right vicwatson, You've got the answer to your original thread opening question. Now you want to know how they actually check. To what end? I'm not interest in getting into the technology of how they do it, be it x-ray or other, or simply opening and resealing. I doubt if anyone else here is interested in that aspect either.

You said they have capability to check plain packing, I'm asking you how you know this, as I've never had plain packages from GB opened or checked. You don't mind anyone else, I'm asking you (sure send me a PM as we can't, correctly, discuss postal systems again)

?????? This is the first time you've posted in the LTI forum. Care to inform us of the long term illness you are concerned about? Or what medication you are talking about. I may be wrong, but I think you are taking this thread into an area that is, imho, probably ill advised.

Mods please note.

Correct it's the first time I've posted here...so what ???

Frankly it's none of your business what the long term illness is and find it rude of you to ask.

The type of medication is irrelevant, it's prescription medicine, that's all you need to know.

If you feel I'm taking the thread that I started off topic (:rolleyes:) then report the post.

I've already stated clearly "I'm certainly not advocating breaking the law etc etc btw"

As as this is the long term illness forum you'll realise that one doesnt need any advise from a pharmacist etc

What I meant by this is that as it's long term illness forum it means people have been taking medicine on a long term basis and therefore don't need the advise of a pharmacist as most have already been using the same medication over the long term.

I'm happy to discuss the reasons/appropriateness/silliness of this law. If you don't want to, don't

Condo131

vicwatson wrote: »

If you feel I'm taking the thread that I started off topic (:rolleyes:) then report the post.

Don't worry, I already did that last night, before posting.

An Post, along with Customs authorities internationally, generally do NOT reveal the methods they use to examine goods. If you really want to know, write to them and ask.

I believe that I along with the other posters, have answered your original questions. As for your more recent mail, I, along with many others have already discussed these same topics elsewhere in the LTI forum.

Please go and bark at someone else.

gizmo555

peckerhead wrote: »

The Irish Medicines Board are the relevant authority. They confiscated 100 (branded) paracetamol tablets I'd ordered online at 1/20th of the typical high street price here and sent me a big finger-wagging letter demanding to know where I had bought this "controlled substance" and how I had found the product.

I told them I'd typed the word "paracetamol" into eBay.

Protectionist fúckwads.

Paracetemol overdose is a very common suicide method and the commonest cause of acute liver failure. If it's not treated quickly it will cause irreversible liver damage and very often death. That's why the regulation preventing the sale of more than 12 tablets at a time was introduced.

100 500mg tablets is about five times the lethal dose. The IMB were absolutely right.

vicwatson

Condo131 wrote: »

Don't worry, I already did that last night, before posting.

An Post, along with Customs authorities internationally, generally do NOT reveal the methods they use to examine goods. If you really want to know, write to them and ask.

I believe that I along with the other posters, have answered your original questions. As for your more recent mail, I, along with many others have already discussed these same topics elsewhere in the LTI forum.

Please go and bark at someone else.

Woof woof :P Seriously what age are you?

irishpancake

gizmo555 wrote: »

Paracetemol overdose is a very common suicide method and the commonest cause of acute liver failure. If it's not treated quickly it will cause irreversible liver damage and very often death. That's why the regulation preventing the sale of more than 12 tablets at a time was introduced.

100 500mg tablets is about five times the lethal dose. The IMB were absolutely right.

Can one legitimately ask here, do consumers on the UK make use of these services, I mean placing a valid doctors prescription with a pharmacy, who will deliver to their home address??

I think they do, and it is a growing legitimate market. There is no face to face with the pharmacist, but the script is validly written by a doctor.

Are the stats relating to overdose, or otherwise, any worse among this cohort in the UK, if such stats exist. I would contend they are not, otherwise we would have heard much more about it.

sam34

condo and vicwatson, cut it out, please. no further warnings.

gizmo555

irishpancake wrote: »

Are the stats relating to overdose, or otherwise, any worse among this cohort in the UK, if such stats exist. I would contend they are not, otherwise we would have heard much more about it.

The UK has introduced restrictions on paracetamol similar to the ones we have here. They have been effective in reducing deaths from this kind of overdose.

You could not go into a shop or chemist in the UK and buy 100 paracetamol tablets over the counter, never mind on ebay, where peckerhead says he bought his.

locum-motion

gizmo555 wrote: »

The UK has introduced restrictions on paracetamol similar to the ones we have here. They have been effective in reducing deaths from this kind of overdose...

(My Emphasis)


Not quite.

In Britain, max is 16 in non-Pharmacy, and 32 in Pharmacy.
In Ireland, it's 12 in non-Pharmacy, and 24 in Pharmacy (with an exception that allows the pharmacist (NOT a non-pharmacist employee) to sell two packs if the person has a good reason for needing them.)

gizmo555

locum-motion wrote: »

Not quite.

Indeed. That's why I wrote similar not identical. (My emphasis.)