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Anyone become rich from farming ?

  • 15-01-2014 9:21pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭


    As the title says do any of ye know many people that earned a fortune from farming . Not from selling sites or roads through the land but selling cattle , sheep or grain .
    I cant say I know many , there are a few older lads that are well off but its more from never spending a penny than anything .

    Oh and if anyone has ideas on how to strike it rich in farming be sure to share :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭Conmaicne Mara


    Don't spend money on nothing, you can settle up my fee later :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Whats the best way to earn a small fortune farming. Start with a big one!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭sheebadog


    moy83 wrote: »
    As the title says do any of ye know many people that earned a fortune from farming . Not from selling sites or roads through the land but selling cattle , sheep or grain .
    I cant say I know many , there are a few older lads that are well off but its more from never spending a penny than anything .

    Oh and if anyone has ideas on how to strike it rich in farming be sure to share :D

    There's loads on here millionaires from selling milk. !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭sheebadog


    Only millionaires can afford granit worktops in their homes etc. .....
    Or so I'm told!'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    Theres a couple lads around here that are very wealthy and by that they have alot of assets not related to farming but were funded at least at the start by farming activities but also in the way they do business - always pay bills on time and are able to fund stuff very quickly.edit, you wouldnt know it if you met them though


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    moy83 wrote: »
    As the title says do any of ye know many people that earned a fortune from farming . Not from selling sites or roads through the land but selling cattle , sheep or grain .
    I cant say I know many , there are a few older lads that are well off but its more from never spending a penny than anything .

    Oh and if anyone has ideas on how to strike it rich in farming be sure to share :D

    Them older lads also sitting on large SFP which insulated them well.
    There's no doubt some lads have a very decent income from the SFP. Last year I was talking to a lad I was at school with.
    I was surprised when he talked openly about the SFP. He took over from his auld lad after being away in England for quite a few years. Their SFP is €60k, or a little more. They throw €30k in one account to run the house. The other €30k is used for loans for land, machinery and stock. He admitted that breaking even on farm activity was enough for him.

    So €30k into the bank for the house. That's like a €50k job. Plus he gets money to buy more land and machinery before worrying about farm profitability.

    He's no millionaire. But farming has left him well off. Married a teacher too ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 TopCon


    Depends on how much daddy/mammy/relatives pass on to you start at.

    To be honest self made millionaires from cattle/sheep/tillage are few and far between. Can think of a couple though!!

    Generally most cash tied up in capital, reinvesting etc...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Miname


    A couple of lads have built up a fair old reserve around here. the same lads do a lot of tangling and id say the majority was gained through that. Any of the others were just miserable and have layers of dust lying on old pound notes in a usa biscuit tin under the bed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    moy83 wrote: »
    As the title says do any of ye know many people that earned a fortune from farming . Not from selling sites or roads through the land but selling cattle , sheep or grain .
    I cant say I know many , there are a few older lads that are well off but its more from never spending a penny than anything .

    Oh and if anyone has ideas on how to strike it rich in farming be sure to share :D

    Strike oil


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭rs8


    as said the only lads who have a nice income are from sfp or a farm which was built by their father and grandfather! know of two brothers who walked into an uncles farm that had everything build grain dryers,machinery, land (300 acrs)! these lads work hard in fairness but would still have to throw up their hands and say a major foundation was built for them


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    Strike oil

    I'm sure there is a loophole somewhere that states the government owns all natural resources


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,110 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    They is a quare share of lads with shares in Kerry group with a fortune but u can be sure they will not let on though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Mac Taylor


    I'll be the first to say I have become rich since I started farming mind you I considered myself one of the super richer before I started farming!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Reggie. wrote: »
    I'm sure there is a loophole somewhere that states the government owns all natural resources

    And even despite this huge advantage, they still bloody manage to flog most of these resources off to likes of shell etc for 1/2 nothing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Timmaay wrote: »
    And even despite this huge advantage, they still bloody manage to flog most of these resources off to likes of shell etc for 1/2 nothing!

    Not at all, they end up paying shell to take it off their hands :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭td5man


    moy83 wrote: »
    As the title says do any of ye know many people that earned a fortune from farming . Not from selling sites or roads through the land but selling cattle , sheep or grain .
    I cant say I know many , there are a few older lads that are well off but its more from never spending a penny than anything .

    Oh and if anyone has ideas on how to strike it rich in farming be sure to share :D

    The only ones i see doing well out of farming are vets, ACCOUNTANTS, solicitors and the knackery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    td5man wrote: »
    The only ones i see doing well out of farming are vets, ACCOUNTANTS, solicitors and the knackery.

    Leave him alone, he's supposed to be busy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭td5man


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Leave him alone, he's supposed to be busy

    Doing??
    Probably burying his money in concrete and steel, need Delaval to have a word with him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    td5man wrote: »
    The only ones i see doing well out of farming are vets, ACCOUNTANTS, solicitors and the knackery.

    Being a vet anit a picnic either in fairness (I think we had a thread about it here afew months back), only a 30/40k wage for crazy hours and plenty of physical work when it comes to large animals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    td5man wrote: »
    Doing??
    Probably burying his money in concrete and steel, need Delaval to have a word with him.

    He doing my paperwork, between the concrete and steel :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭grimbergen


    I was chatting to a young-ish dairy farmer over the christmas - he says he was getting 54c a litre from June onwards from his co-op. High protein and concentrates etc. Not they type to bull**** either. Plenty of lads in the dairy game making money, the Teagasc figures will show you that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭td5man


    Reggie. wrote: »
    He doing my paperwork, between the concrete and steel :D

    Is that so the revenue cant find it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    td5man wrote: »
    Is that so the revenue cant find it.

    Don't care how he does it once the figures are right ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭WayneScott


    moy83 wrote: »
    As the title says do any of ye know many people that earned a fortune from farming . Not from selling sites or roads through the land but selling cattle , sheep or grain .
    I cant say I know many , there are a few older lads that are well off but its more from never spending a penny than anything .

    Oh and if anyone has ideas on how to strike it rich in farming be sure to share :D
    Farmers dole is great


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 70 ✭✭Philope


    A well run farm, with a bit of capital to start with, will make money, but won't make you rich. If you're in farming for just the money, or to be rich, or you don't have the capital to run a modern farm, and are in effect working just to pay the bank, sell up. The obsession with land is not a healthy one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭tim04750


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Being a vet anit a picnic either in fairness (I think we had a thread about it here afew months back), only a 30/40k wage for crazy hours and plenty of physical work when it comes to large animals.

    Can't understand why anyone with enough brains to get the points for veterinary would actually choose it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭rs8


    tim04750 wrote: »
    Can't understand why anyone with enough brains to get the points for veterinary would actually choose it.

    never mind a vet what about a farmer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    Philope wrote: »
    A well run farm, with a bit of capital to start with, will make money, but won't make you rich. If you're in farming for just the money, or to be rich, or you don't have the capital to run a modern farm, and are in effect working just to pay the bank, sell up. The obsession with land is not a healthy one.

    A well run farm of what size and where.. and by the looks of things if its not in dairy its not at the races..
    I'd be thinking it would take a fair sized suckler herd to supply a living to a family and pay for a family home.. And I'd wager that without SFP it wouldn't have a hope !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭rs8


    bbam wrote: »
    A well run farm of what size and where.. and by the looks of things if its not in dairy its not at the races..
    I'd be thinking it would take a fair sized suckler herd to supply a living to a family and pay for a family home.. And I'd wager that without SFP it wouldn't have a hope !!

    not that i want to no his personal finances, but id like to hear bobs reply to this as im fairly sure hes a fulltime suckler man


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭simx


    rs8 wrote: »
    not that i want to no his personal finances, but id like to hear bobs reply to this as im fairly sure hes a fulltime suckler man

    I'm fairly sure bob is a finisher and has little or none sucklers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭rs8


    ah damn, is anyone on here a full time suckler farmer? is blue5000?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭Toplink


    Once the mortgage is paid and I have a lump sum saved for the kids college fees... then and only then will I go full tome farming.

    10 years and counting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭Toplink


    Once the mortgage is paid and I have a lump sum saved for the kids college fees... then and only then will I go full tome farming.

    10 years and counting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    simx wrote: »
    I'm fairly sure bob is a finisher and has little or none sucklers

    it felt like I was a full-time suckler farmer last year I had so many beef heifers in calf:mad:, still manage a few calving here each year. with all costs associated I would find it hard to see a realistic wage from them irrespective of numbers and efficiencies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    it felt like I was a full-time suckler farmer last year I had so many beef heifers in calf:mad:, still manage a few calving here each year. with all costs associated I would find it hard to see a realistic wage from them irrespective of numbers and efficiencies

    The problem as I see it with suckling is that to be in big enough numbers to provide a living.. your into so much stock that a second man is needed and then that would just negate the whole object..

    That's of course providing you were just handed a farm large enough to run them..

    I still haven't seen much evidence floating round that sucklers could provide for a modern family.
    If you look at the cold facts, other than dairy, farming for the majority is a supplemental income.


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