Garda age card as ID for flight

pompeyboi · 15-01-2014 4:16pm #1

Hi all,
a friend and I are planning on taking a trip to England next month but he doesn't have a passport, only an age card..would ryanair accept it? thanks really need help with this one.

seamus · 15-01-2014 4:19pm

It's totally up to the discretion of the agent at the gate and the airline.

According to this, Ryanair will not accept the age card as a valid form of ID. You will need a passport.

vitani · 15-01-2014 4:23pm

It only takes 10 days to get a passport through Passport Express.

http://www.anpost.ie/AnPost/MainContent/Personal+Customers/Sending+Mail/Speed/Passport+Express/

pompeyboi · 15-01-2014 4:26pm

vitani wrote: »

It only takes 10 days to get a passport through Passport Express.

http://www.anpost.ie/AnPost/MainContent/Personal+Customers/Sending+Mail/Speed/Passport+Express/

Does that count for British passport holders aswell? because thats what he's got

testicle · 15-01-2014 4:27pm

Fly with Aer Lingus. No passport required

RustyNut · 15-01-2014 4:29pm

Ryanair will only accept a passport as ID it's in the t&cs.

pompeyboi · 15-01-2014 4:30pm

testicle wrote: »

Fly with Aer Lingus. No passport required

Good idea thanks. Although we're trying to fly Cork-Luton and I think the only place Aer Lingus go from Cork is Heathrow

Nonoperational · 15-01-2014 4:31pm

There are no direct Cork Luton flights.

pompeyboi · 15-01-2014 4:33pm

Ah for f*ck sake. Thanks for help everyone I'll try work something else out then

jrmb · 15-01-2014 5:02pm

The age card isn't really an identity document. It even says that on the card, although Aer Lingus once told me that a travel pass was acceptable.

Gatica · 16-01-2014 9:07am

That's correct, the age card is just that, it proves your age to enable you to do things only allowed someone a certain age, e.g. enter night-club, purchase alcohol, it's not to identify who you are (though of course photo and name on it may seem like a contradiction).
In addition as others have said, Ryanair's own rules are that you need a passport to travel with them. If you find another means of getting to the UK, any ID is usually acceptable, including I've heard bus passes, work ID, student cards and even age cards have been accepted (despite its terms being that it's not an ID card). The ID at the end of the day has to show that you're entitled to enter the UK as an Irish citizen without a visa. I don't know how any of the above docs can prove that really, but I've not heard of anyone being told they must present doc showing citizenship.

keithclancy · 17-01-2014 9:16am

Ireland really needs a national identity card.

Having to carry your passport everywhere in the EU is stupid.

munchkin_utd · 17-01-2014 9:46am

keithclancy wrote: »

Ireland really needs a national identity card.

Having to carry your passport everywhere in the EU is stupid.

more stupid is when muppets in Tesco will refuse someone clearly tipping 30, with an Irish passport to prove it, when buying alcohol because only an ID card is good enough for them due to the law saying specifically that an AGE Id is a recognised Id under irish licencing law, but not a passport.

Its a tangent, but if an "age ID" is on a par or better than a passport in the eye of the irish law in certain aspects, then its a small step to just make a proper ID card that not only works in Tesco, but also on Ryanair (who DO accept national id cards as well as passports) and at every border crossing in Europe.

Gatica · 17-01-2014 11:21am

ha ha... I see I'm not the only one with that issue, except it was Aldi. Woman flat out refused to sell me a bottle of wine with my large weekly shopping with passport or driving licence. Crazy!
After a couple of their refusals I just went and applied for the garda ID. I can't imagine how frustrating it must be if you're foreign just visiting Ireland. What are they supposed to do when their passport is not good enough?
In a large part of the EU you can get all the services you need through just your ID, which fits in your wallet unlike the old Irish licences and all passports.

jrmb · 17-01-2014 5:58pm

Gatica wrote: »

In a large part of the EU you can get all the services you need through just your ID, which fits in your wallet unlike the old Irish licences and all passports.

The Italians have their proof of identity, driver's licence category and EU health insurance details in one card.

In Ireland, non-EU immigrants are supposed to have their Immigration Bureau card with them at all times. It shouldn't be too complicated to extend it to everyone (even on an optional basis) but welcome to Ireland.

Sheldons Brain · 18-01-2014 2:07am

What are they supposed to do when their passport is not good enough?

Suing Aldi for nationality related discrimination seems like a good plan.

keithclancy · 18-01-2014 9:02pm

jrmb wrote: »

The Italians have their proof of identity, driver's licence category and EU health insurance details in one card.

In Ireland, non-EU immigrants are supposed to have their Immigration Bureau card with them at all times. It shouldn't be too complicated to extend it to everyone (even on an optional basis) but welcome to Ireland.

No they don't.

jrmb · 19-01-2014 4:32pm

keithclancy wrote: »

No they don't.

The Italians? They do. I've used it to verify their identities at work.

keithclancy · 19-01-2014 5:11pm

jrmb wrote: »

The Italians? They do. I've used it to verify their identities at work.

The Italian ID Card is almost the same as the Dutch one, it doesn't have their driving license number or EHIC Details on it though.

The new ones look like this:
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The old ones look like this:

The Driving license is the EU Model one:
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jrmb · 19-01-2014 5:51pm

I must have mistaken it for something else

mreihill07 · 19-03-2014 6:16pm

So Garda age cards definitely definitely don't work for Ryanair flights from Dublin to the UK????

Intifada · 30-05-2014 9:29am

seamus wrote: »

It's totally up to the discretion of the agent at the gate and the airline.

This is the only correct answer in this thread.

I have flown to the UK with Ryanair using a college ID. You just need to hope they are sound and let you away with it. Remember there is absolutely no law requiring a passport to travel between the UK and Ireland, it is just Ryanair being difficult as usual.

kingshankly · 30-05-2014 9:58am

Intifada wrote: »

This is the only correct answer in this thread.

I have flown to the UK with Ryanair using a college ID. You just need to hope they are sound and let you away with it. Remember there is absolutely no law requiring a passport to travel between the UK and Ireland, it is just Ryanair being difficult as usual.

I thought the "there's no direct flights from cork to Luton "
Was pretty correct

steve-o · 30-05-2014 10:17am

Intifada wrote: »

I have flown to the UK with Ryanair using a college ID.

When and where? Did you have to beg and plead to be allowed on?

Intifada · 30-05-2014 10:58am

Shannon to Gatwick. It took a bit of sweet talk alright, they take a photocopy of your ID and get you to sign some waiver forms that say you can be deported back if the destination airport reject you or something (lol).

coylemj · 30-05-2014 3:31pm

Intifada wrote: »

Shannon to Gatwick. It took a bit of sweet talk alright, they take a photocopy of your ID and get you to sign some waiver forms that say you can be deported back if the destination airport reject you or something (lol).

When did this happen?

Even if it was yesterday, nobody, repeat nobody should rely on this information because Ryanair state endlessly that an Irish person needs a PASSPORT to fly to the UK. No driving licence, no bus pass, no old age pension book, no student card, passport only.

Garda age card as ID for flight

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