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3 monitor setup advice

  • 13-01-2014 10:06pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭


    Hi, I don't know a lot about computer building but I'm wondering if someone can recommend a Motherboard and Graphics Card to support a 3 monitor setup that won't break the bank.

    Total build 600- 700 Euros excluding monitors


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭yawhat!


    Is 700 just for the motherboard and graphics card or do you need ram, processor etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭yawhat!


    Is 700 just for the motherboard and graphics card or do you need ram, processor etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭yawhat!


    Is 700 just for the motherboard and graphics card or do you need ram, processor etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭yawhat!


    Is 700 just for the motherboard and graphics card or do you need ram, processor etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭yawhat!


    Is 700 just for the motherboard and graphics card or do you need ram, processor etc


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭yawhat!


    Is 700 just for the motherboard and graphics card or do you need ram, processor etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭yawhat!


    Is 700 just for the motherboard and graphics card or do you need ram, processor etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭yawhat!


    Is 700 just for the motherboard and graphics card or do you need ram, processor etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭joejoe87


    I need everything, I'm getting a company called ktcomputers to build it but the build I chose doesn't support 3 monitors. Here are 3 examples but they said they're putting 3 new up to date examples up in the next few days. http://www.ktcomputers.ie/gaming-pc . I', looking for a second opinion really, I'm not confident enough to build my own computer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭joejoe87


    also I'm out of the country until march, so I won't build until I'm back.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭yawhat!


    Theres pieces of crap tbh. Hardwareversand will build the PC for you for a tenner I think it is.

    ****e quality parts and ****e graphics cards for the prices there charges.

    A 6670 is a high end gaming PC????? they'd want a bucket of cop on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭yawhat!


    Sorry Mods about the 10 posts in a row. Dont know what happened if ye could delete


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭joejoe87


    I've been looking at that site but I'm not confident enough to pick the right stuff. I've been looking at some sweet builds on youtube. Maybe I'll find one in my budget and just order the same parts?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭yawhat!


    joejoe87 wrote: »
    I've been looking at that site but I'm not confident enough to pick the right stuff. I've been looking at some sweet builds on youtube. Maybe I'll find one in my budget and just order the same parts?

    The graphics cards are rubbish so i definitely would not be ordering them! Dodgy Power supply's as well and never heard of that ram!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭joejoe87


    what about copying someone's setup from youtube? depending on the people's opinions and so on. I really don't know a whole lot


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭yawhat!


    I'll spec you up a build. Theres hundreds of threads on here with gaming builds in them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭joejoe87


    I've looked at some videos of people building there pcs so I think I'll give it a go myself... I'll put up a list in a bit when I do some pricing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Why do you want 3 monitor setup? Are you looking to play in surround or it is for work and general Screen real estate?

    If it is for work, then you dont really need a beefy GPU to hold 3x1080p screens together, if it is for gaming, then you will need some really really good GPU.

    If you do plan on gaming, then I would advice to see it in action first ( if possible ). I always wanted a surround gaming setup. When I actually built it, it turned out not as cool as I expected. Thats outside of stupid amount of power needing to run it. Some people like surround setups and fair play, but I am warning you, its not for everyone.
    Some games Benefit from it in some form ( EVE online, War thunder ), but a lot of other games are pretty meh. 3 monitors in surround are a bitch to use for just normal tasks in desktop. For example you will want to have full screen movie or youtube video and keep browsing on other screen. You wont be able to do this as it will full screen it over all 3 monitors. Meaning it will make side monitors pretty much useless as all they will show - Black screen. I had to break down surround back to nice 3x1080p.
    Maybe instead of 3 monitor setup, you would have better having 1440p monitor + 1080p monitor as extension for random stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭joejoe87


    It would be for gaming, this is a list I did on hardwareversand. Where is the option for them to build it?

    Gigabyte H87-HD3, ATX

    8GB-Kit Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 MHz CL9

    Seagate Barracuda 7200 1000GB, SATA 6Gb/s

    Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 OC Windforce 2X, 2GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort

    Asus BC-12D2HT/BLK/B Bulk Silent

    Intel Core i5-3330 Box, LGA1155

    Corsair CX Series Modular CX500M, 500W

    MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SB-Version Englisch

    Sharkoon T9 Value green edition, ohne Netzteil

    Comes in at 783 euros... needs to be about 100 less. How does this setup look?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    joejoe87 wrote: »
    It would be for gaming, this is a list I did on hardwareversand. Where is the option for them to build it?

    Gigabyte H87-HD3, ATX

    8GB-Kit Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 MHz CL9

    Seagate Barracuda 7200 1000GB, SATA 6Gb/s

    Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 OC Windforce 2X, 2GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort

    Asus BC-12D2HT/BLK/B Bulk Silent

    Intel Core i5-3330 Box, LGA1155

    Corsair CX Series Modular CX500M, 500W

    MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SB-Version Englisch

    Sharkoon T9 Value green edition, ohne Netzteil

    Comes in at 783 euros... needs to be about 100 less. How does this setup look?

    Now I dont want to sound as a Smart arse bastard, but Good luck to be able to Game in surround with that spec. I am a bit out of touch with current best Cookie cutter setups as I did not speced Systems for some time, but I bet lads will come with better setup.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭joejoe87


    Now I dont want to sound as a Smart arse bastard, but Good luck to be able to Game in surround with that spec. I am a bit out of touch with current best Cookie cutter setups as I did not speced Systems for some time, but I bet lads will come with better setup.
    I don't really know what I'm doing tbh:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    but a lot of other games are pretty meh. 3 monitors in surround are a bitch to use for just normal tasks in desktop. For example you will want to have full screen movie or youtube video and keep browsing on other screen. You wont be able to do this as it will full screen it over all 3 monitors. Meaning it will make side monitors pretty much useless as all they will show - Black screen. I had to break down surround back to nice 3x1080p.

    This is not the case at all. You must not have set it up properly. I have 3 x 1440p monitors and whichever screen I choose to display a fullscreen movie on, youtube or bluray, it will only affect that screen. The other two screens will show the desktop and I could go and browse the internet or do whatever I wanted, all while the other monitor is displaying the movie.

    I stream my Vu+Duo2 over homeplugs onto 1 monitor most of the time. I can even play Battlefield 4 on the central monitor, with Sky Sports on my left monitor, and have facebook/teamspeak/skype etc on the right monitor.

    You are correct about gaming on 3 displays, in most instances I dont bother. Its great fun in Fifa having the entire pitch on display the entire time, or in games like iRacing where, well thats why I bought them, its just incredible.

    If you want it for gaming, I suggest you follow the advice in the video below, rather than doing the typical setup where the monitors are at a very shallow angle.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rri19PqJ3qU


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭joejoe87


    is it the graphics card and the ram that's the most important?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    This is not the case at all. You must not have set it up properly. I have 3 x 1440p monitors and whichever screen I choose to display a fullscreen movie on, youtube or bluray, it will only affect that screen. The other two screens will show the desktop and I could go and browse the internet or do whatever I wanted, all while the other monitor is displaying the movie.

    I stream my Vu+Duo2 over homeplugs onto 1 monitor most of the time. I can even play Battlefield 4 on the central monitor, with Sky Sports on my left monitor, and have facebook/teamspeak/skype etc on the right monitor.

    You are correct about gaming on 3 displays, in most instances I dont bother. Its great fun in Fifa having the entire pitch on display the entire time, or in games like iRacing where, well thats why I bought them, its just incredible.

    If you want it for gaming, I suggest you follow the advice in the video below, rather than doing the typical setup where the monitors are at a very shallow angle.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rri19PqJ3qU

    Do you have it as 3x1440p set or all of them in one huge resolution for SURROUND? I got them all now set as 3x1080p instead of 5750x1080 and I can use it as you said it. It was the main reason for me going back to separate monitors instead of surround.

    For 3 monitor gaming I think OP should go at least this to get bare minimum of Surround gaming. Even so that GPU wont run it that great at all. Like I said it was ages since I put Machines together, I bet lads can do a better job.
    Item|Price
    Gigabyte Z87-HD3, ATX|€95.43
    Intel Core i5-4670K Box, LGA1150|€205.99
    8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9|€68.07
    BitFenix Shinobi Midi-Tower USB 3.0 black, ohne Netzteil|€53.91
    be quiet! PURE POWER L8 600W|€70.23
    Seagate Barracuda 7200 1000GB, SATA 6Gb/s|€47.99
    Samsung SSD 840 EVO Basic 120GB SATA 6Gb/s|€84.99
    Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X Rev 2.0 Battlefield 4 Edition, 3GB DDR5, PCI- Express|€279.71
    Shipping|€18.99
    Total|€925.31


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    In the Nvidia control panel I have it set to surround. The resolution is set at 7680x1440. Although I have my taskbar only on the central monitor as its pointless having it on the left or right. Also as the monitors are 27" in size, it saves having to turn my head, which actually does get annoying after a bit. Im not really that interested in tech for the sake of it, so if it didnt work out as I hoped, then I would have just sold them on.

    If I am using VLC player for example, whichever monitor the VLC window is in when I maximise it, is the only screen it will affect. If I wanted to make it fill two screens or more for some bizarre reason, I would simply manually stretch the window out so that it spanned whichever screens I wanted it to fill, then hit the "maximize" button at the top of the window. Whichever screens the window was in at that time would be filled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    In the Nvidia control panel I have it set to surround. The resolution is set at 7680x1440. Although I have my taskbar only on the central monitor as its pointless having it on the left or right. Also as the monitors are 27" in size, it saves having to turn my head, which actually does get annoying after a bit. Im not really that interested in tech for the sake of it, so if it didnt work out as I hoped, then I would have just sold them on.

    If I am using VLC player for example, whichever monitor the VLC window is in when I maximise it, is the only screen it will affect. If I wanted to make it fill two screens or more for some bizarre reason, I would simply manually stretch the window out so that it spanned whichever screens I wanted it to fill, then hit the "maximize" button at the top of the window. Whichever screens the window was in at that time would be filled.

    Well, when I do surround way, then youtube maxed out videos would go on all 3 monitors. When I play games on 1080p it shut downs side monitors.
    I have to have non surround setup to be able to play games and have Netflix or other stuff on side monitors.

    Anyway, sorry for off topic OP. If you are quite new to the whole PC gaming and just want 3 monitor setup, because it sounds awesome, then I would advice you to reconsider. If you are new, you better off making a solid one monitor setup and work away from there. Damn, get 2 monitors to play on one and have your "stuff" on second one. Trust me, when you go in to more then one monitor - you never ever go back. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 878 ✭✭✭Luck100


    Back to OP's request...if your budget is around 700 for a gaming system then you should be looking at 1080p, single monitor. Running games on 3x1080 (or even a single 1440 monitor) at nice-looking settings takes a fair bit of gpu muscle. I would take high-quality graphics on a single monitor over medium/low on 3 monitors any day. Of course, that doesn't mean you can't game on one monitor at high settings and have the other for your browser/facebook/non-gaming stuff.

    Personally, I have a newer 1440p monitor which I use for gaming and an older second monitor (1600x1200). I thought I would use the second monitor for displaying 'stuff' on the side but it turns out I almost never use it. And I use a 4-monitor workstation at work, so it's not like I'm not used to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    OP how did you get on? Have you ordered stuff?? Would love to see some photos if you have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,387 ✭✭✭glynf


    Well, when I do surround way, then youtube maxed out videos would go on all 3 monitors. When I play games on 1080p it shut downs side monitors.
    I have to have non surround setup to be able to play games and have Netflix or other stuff on side monitors.

    Anyway, sorry for off topic OP. If you are quite new to the whole PC gaming and just want 3 monitor setup, because it sounds awesome, then I would advice you to reconsider. If you are new, you better off making a solid one monitor setup and work away from there. Damn, get 2 monitors to play on one and have your "stuff" on second one. Trust me, when you go in to more then one monitor - you never ever go back. :P

    Check out popout for youtube if ytou use Chrome browser Shadow, problem sorted.

    OP, if you want to run games in Surround/Eyefinity, one GPU won't cut it if you want decent fps'. You will need to factor in SLI/Xfire cards to your build. I currently have SLI'ed GTX 780's running 3 x 120hz monitors @5888 x 1080, and I need to overclock to get 80+ fps on newer titles, the more power the better :)

    Not sure what Xfire support (AMD's multi card solution) is like these days-Ijumped to Nvidia last year, but make sure there is good driver and profile support for the games you plan to play. Nvidia is a lot better with multiple cards-but that's my opinion, it seems like they sorted the microstutter issues they had in newer drivers.

    When it comes to games, don't assume every game released works well out of the box multi monitor, its a lot better these days but some devs are not arsed (hello Bethesda).

    As a rule of thumb, I allow a month or two for all the bugs related to multi monitor games to be worked out before I buy a new release.
    Checkout WSGF for fixes etc to older games as well as newer unsupported titles. Don't let this put you off, its all worth it when a game runs well in surround.


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