VW winter service €149

Stallingrad

€149 for an oil and filter change, software upgrades and winter kit consisting of de-icer, antifreeze, scraper, door seal lube. Service book stamped. Excellent value IMO for main dealer.

Valid until end of Jan.

http://www.volkswagen.ie/en/service/winter-service.html

ted1

So its 149 for an oil change?

Stallingrad

ted1 wrote: »

So its 149 for an oil change?

Did you read the OP?

Stallingrad

Usual boards knee jerk response when main dealers are mentioned.

If you have a VW, particularly one under warranty this is decent value.

Dcully

Stallingrad wrote: »

€149 for an oil and filter change, software upgrades and winter kit consisting of de-icer, antifreeze, scraper, door seal lube. Service book stamped. Excellent value IMO for main dealer.

Valid until end of Jan.

http://www.volkswagen.ie/en/service/winter-service.html

I got all the above done a a week before christmas on my ford focus tdci and 2 front brake pads [genuine ford parts] replaced and a mini vallet for €175 in Monasterevin motors, thats much better value.

ted1

Stallingrad wrote: »

Did you read the OP?

Ok Lets list them:

oil and filter change <--€50http://www.corkautoservices.com/oil-filter-change/
software upgrades <--BS
de-icer, €2 http://www.halfords.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_11101_catalogId_15551_productId_175723_langId_-1_categoryId_229903
antifreeze, €11.39 http://www.halfords.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_11101_catalogId_15551_productId_219524_langId_-1_categoryId_229903
scraper, €1.39 http://www.halfords.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_11101_catalogId_15551_productId_175765_langId_-1_categoryId_229903
door seal lube. <--BS, but what the hell. €6.49 http://www.halfords.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_11101_catalogId_15551_productId_219033_langId_-1_categoryId_212531
Service book stamped. <--BS, what will the stamp say? oil change?

so a total off €71.27

Mahuga

You're kind of proving my point Ted. Say half is parts, add the software update, there was one due on my car and it was done, so half is labour. Do you begrudge a main dealer the €70 labour? For a two year old car, under warranty I'm happy with my choice, even if you are not. Adding BS to every line doesn't make it so either. :-)

ted1

Mahuga wrote: »

You're kind of proving my point Ted. Say half is parts, add the software update, there was one due on my car and it was done, so half is labour. Do you begrudge a main dealer the €70 labour? For a two year old car, under warranty I'm happy with my choice, even if you are not. Adding BS to every line doesn't make it so either. :-)

The fellow doing it for 50 is charging labour aswell!!!!
do I begrudge paying some one for labour, No never but I do not believe in paying prices that are outrageous. it'll be some apprentice changing the oil getting paid about €15 an hour. Why should i pay someone the same wage as a doctor for an oil change, he has to twist a nut, and change a filter. there called grease monkeys for a reason.


149/71.27= 209% the price of going elsewhere

This is not a bargain.

I would rather give the money to SVdeP.

I did not put BS to every line, only to three and I actually played along with one of them


P.S what point am i proving, you hadn't made any comment or even a post, do you have 2 accounts, that you post under?

Notch000

this is a deal
http://deals.advertiser.ie/galway/services/mini-or-full-car-service/

DK man

I do my own service on my car. I'm not interested in cars and only learned because when I was a student I had no choice. It takes me about 1 hour and a good chunk of the time is taking out the tools and putting them away. I change fuel, oil and air filters in that time. Servicing must be a great money earner for mechanics and garages I'm sure pros do it twice as fast as me.

Think of a bottle of coke turned up side down - u simply open it up under a bucket and when it's empty put the top / screw back on. Then fill it up with new oil. Oil filter - again screw off lid and remove old filter put on new rubbers place new filter in the cup and turn lid back on. Fuel - remove two clips disconnect hoses - replace hoses and clips also place in new rubber seals. Air filer is the easiest remove clips - lift off lid and change air filter / clean or hoover out flies etc and replace lid.

Now I'm not saying mechanics is easy I'm sure it quite complicated and requires years of practice and training .but basic servicing is not much more complicated than changing a light bulb and if people knew how simple it is they would be much more selective where they go.

Charging €5 to top up window wiper water is taking the piss!

Y2KBOS86

ted1 wrote: »

Why should i pay someone the same wage as a doctor for an oil change

Most mechanics I have been to actually do a good job.

Doctors however :rolleyes:

I might as well go to the butcher when I am sick than going to the 4 Gp's in my town.

They are beyond useless, I tell them I have a flu or virus, he agrees ( doesn't even check me ) gives me a prescription of cheap antibiotics and pain killers that I could write myself and want's 60 for it.

I pull out 45 euro and say it's all I have ( just to test them ) and they say it's grand.Money hungry.

spank_inferno

If you contact a main dealer and ask for an oil & filter change they will quote a price cheaper still.

Did so at a VW dealer for €104 for oil, filter & air filter.

If you select a "service" they top up your windscreen washer fluid, hoover the car floor & charge an extra 1/3.

Its not any kind of motoring snobbery, this is not by any evaluation a bargain.

mathepac

ted1 wrote: »

Ok Lets list them:

oil and filter change <--€50http://www.corkautoservices.com/oil-filter-change/
software upgrades <--BS
de-icer, €2 http://www.halfords.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_11101_catalogId_15551_productId_175723_langId_-1_categoryId_229903
antifreeze, €11.39 http://www.halfords.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_11101_catalogId_15551_productId_219524_langId_-1_categoryId_229903
scraper, €1.39 http://www.halfords.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_11101_catalogId_15551_productId_175765_langId_-1_categoryId_229903
door seal lube. <--BS, but what the hell. €6.49 http://www.halfords.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_11101_catalogId_15551_productId_219033_langId_-1_categoryId_212531
Service book stamped. <--BS, what will the stamp say? oil change?

so a total off €71.27

Lads ye never seem to learn with the makey-uppy VW service items. Ye're at nothin'.

Halford's VW spec oil (VW 504 00/507 00) is €53.99 for 5 litres. Anyone using non-VW spec oil in a VW engine is a chancer pure and simple.

Add sump-nut & washer €5.00

http://www.halfords.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_11101_catalogId_15551_productId_498805_langId_-1_categoryId_212419

At €149 the VW service using proper VW parts looks like great value to me.

beauf

Stallingrad wrote: »

Usual boards knee jerk response when main dealers are mentioned....

No smoke without fire. They've earned their reputation. They have no one but themselves to blame for that. A few years again a main dealer service, like this was costing 400~600.

There should be fixed price services and repairs.

TheDriver

Unless you need the stamp for warranty purposes, then oil change elsewhere is cheaper. My only concern is that they use oil that will give the proper interval.

My insignia has a 30,000km or 1 year interval. I have taken it to 2 main dealers for the annual service and both of them put 15,000km on the sticker. When questioned and asked about "do i have to bring it back at 15 according to Opel's schedule", they both backed down to a line about some people like to bring them in at 15,000 drumming up business. If Opel say 30, then 30 it is!

ted1

mathepac wrote: »

Lads ye never seem to learn with the makey-uppy VW service items. Ye're at nothin'.

Halford's VW spec oil (VW 504 00/507 00) is €53.99 for 5 litres. Anyone using non-VW spec oil in a VW engine is a chancer pure and simple.

Add sump-nut & washer €5.00

http://www.halfords.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_11101_catalogId_15551_productId_498805_langId_-1_categoryId_212419

At €149 the VW service using proper VW parts looks like great value to me.

That's long life Oil. VW won't use long life oil, if the do they won't tell you and they'll try to bring you back in 50% earlier.
you can still get the oil changed in an independent using the specified oil for cheaper.

gooner99

TheDriver wrote: »

Unless you need the stamp for warranty purposes, then oil change elsewhere is cheaper. My only concern is that they use oil that will give the proper interval.

My insignia has a 30,000km or 1 year interval. I have taken it to 2 main dealers for the annual service and both of them put 15,000km on the sticker. When questioned and asked about "do i have to bring it back at 15 according to Opel's schedule", they both backed down to a line about some people like to bring them in at 15,000 drumming up business. If Opel say 30, then 30 it is!

Had the exact same thing happen on a golf years ago. Schedule was 10k miles, but the dealer stamped next service in 5k miles. I rang VW main office and they confirmed 10k miles.I then asked why their dealers were calling for 5k intervals, he replied "some dealer in the countryside like to service them at lower intervals due to the harsher road conditions. maybe a valid point, maybe not. Anyway I stuck to the 10k miles and only used the correct oil. Now on my second 10 year old Golf 1.4 and still stick to 10k miles and only use Castrol Edge 5w/30 and never a problem. 150k miles on her now, touch wood. Needless to say I ditched the main dealer as soon as the warranty ran out.

Tea 1000

ted1 wrote: »

Ok Lets list them:

oil and filter change <--€50http://www.corkautoservices.com/oil-filter-change/
software upgrades <--BS
de-icer, €2 http://www.halfords.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_11101_catalogId_15551_productId_175723_langId_-1_categoryId_229903
antifreeze, €11.39 http://www.halfords.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_11101_catalogId_15551_productId_219524_langId_-1_categoryId_229903
scraper, €1.39 http://www.halfords.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_11101_catalogId_15551_productId_175765_langId_-1_categoryId_229903
door seal lube. <--BS, but what the hell. €6.49 http://www.halfords.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_11101_catalogId_15551_productId_219033_langId_-1_categoryId_212531
Service book stamped. <--BS, what will the stamp say? oil change?

so a total off €71.27

Oil and filter there is listed at €50, but states on that link that he uses 10W 40 oil and no more than 5 litres.
Sorry, I don't go with anyone like that. Buying the correct oil for your car is important, some costs €25 for some cars, others €60. Yer man will throw in 10W 40 no matter what rolls in the door. F**k that, bargain my ass!

Stallingrad

Interesting how divisive this is. While arguably not a bargain in the Tesco sense, maybe more of a "Value alert".

Software update has also got rid of a resonance at 2000rpm, which was a known issue on this engine.

Mini Valet and 12 months road side assist is also included with this offer.

Bpmull

Good spot op. I think this is a good deal considering you know it will be done right and they offer a 2 year warranty over the parts used in the service. It's a specially good deal for those with cars up the years or ones still under warranty.

ted1 wrote: »

Ok Lets list them:

oil and filter change <--€50http://www.corkautoservices.com/oil-filter-change/
software upgrades <--BS

Whatever about the other stuff you posted. All vw cars take specific oil that is of a vw spec also a lot take 5w30 and low sap oils for the dpf. The idea of throwing in cheap 10w40 oil is a pure joke. Specially if the car is anyway newer. And how any mechanic would think its ok to put 10w40 one oil fits all in to all cars is beyond me. The shear permanents damage using the wrong oil can cause. And the software upgrades can be important in a newer car. Also the stamp in the book and service record is vital when seeking warranty work to be done and as proof of service history.

I think the whole point of this thread was for people with newer cars. Obviously people who have 500 euro car aren't going to bring it to a vw garage to get it serviced which makes sense the software upgrades and stamped history isn't really worth much in this case. But if the car is of any value I would be sticking with either main dealer or reputable independent garages who will use the right parts and oil. But I suppose you get what you pay for. But the above 50 euro service is not comparing like with like or even nearly so it's pointless comparing it to the 149 euro Service.

Peew

Halford's VW spec oil (VW 504 00/507 00) is €53.99 for 5 litres. Anyone using non-VW spec oil in a VW engine is a chancer pure and simple.

Add sump-nut & washer €5.00

http://www.halfords.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_11101_catalogId_15551_productId_498805_langId_-1_categoryId_212419

At €149 the VW service using proper VW parts looks like great value to me.[/QUOTE]

Why would you pay 54 euro for no name oil when you can get Castrol 5w/30 cheaper from Halfords.
Castrol would be the dogs for oil.:rolleyes:

dingding

Notch000 wrote: »

this is a deal
http://deals.advertiser.ie/galway/services/mini-or-full-car-service/

They do "bodywork tinkering" as well.

ted1

Bpmull wrote: »

Good spot op. I think this is a good deal considering you know it will be done right and they offer a 2 year warranty over the parts used in the service. It's a specially good deal for those with cars up the years or ones still under warranty.



Whatever about the other stuff you posted. All vw cars take specific oil that is of a vw spec also a lot take 5w30 and low sap oils for the dpf. The idea of throwing in cheap 10w40 oil is a pure joke. Specially if the car is anyway newer. And how any mechanic would think its ok to put 10w40 one oil fits all in to all cars is beyond me. The shear permanents damage using the wrong oil can cause. And the software upgrades can be important in a newer car. Also the stamp in the book and service record is vital when seeking warranty work to be done and as proof of service history.

I think the whole point of this thread was for people with newer cars. Obviously most people who have 500 euro car aren't going to bring it to a vw garage to get it serviced which makes sense the software upgrades and stamped history isn't really worth much in this case. But if the car is of any value I would be sticking with either main dealer or reputable independent garages how will use the right parts and oil. But I suppose you get what you pay for. But the above 50 euro service is not comparing like with like or even nearly so it's pointless comparing it to the 149 euro Service.

A two year warranty over which parts ? There are no parts being used only oil and filters

Bpmull

ted1 wrote: »

A two year warranty over which parts ? There are no parts being used only oil and filters

In this case then that's all it would be on. Just meant in general they offer 2 years warranty on all parts they use. Also bear in mind if your car is under vw warranty and you get the likes of this 50 euro service and have a warranty problem vw won't even entertain it. Anyway I've given my reasons no more to say. If people want to go for the 50 euro service grand but it's not like for like and would only really suit older cars and even at that they would have to take 10w40 oil. As I said I have nothing against the 50 euro deal but it's not a substitute for the vw offer.

Bpmull

beauf wrote: »

Its a flawed assumption that paying more gives better quality.

In this case it does it gives you the right oil for the car. People seem to not realise how much damage the wrong oil can do to a car. Tbh I'm all for using reputable independent garages and mechanics but good ones. Anyway I service my car myself so it makes no difference to me.

Edit: also I'm under no allusion as too how much of a rip of main dealers can be at times. But the whole point of the deal is its good value if you have a newer vw that's under warranty and it needs a service. I'm not suggesting main dealers are better than independent garages but you have to make sure your going to a decent one not some back street cowboy that only going to cause more damage to your car than anything else.

discombobulate

Another advantage is that the service history coming from a VW dealer will be a better selling point when letting go of the car than doing it yourself or having a non-dealership / specialist on the service book.

beauf

Only for people that assume a main dealer does a better job than a independent. Not everyone believes that to be the case. In fact you could take it do be someone who doesn't really know anything about their car, so really haven't a clue what's been done to it.

mobby

Software Updates should be covered under warranty if there is an issue that requires updating and you should not surly have to pay for same. having said that I think it good value. would normally stick with a main dealer myself.

discombobulate

beauf wrote: »

Only for people that assume a main dealer does a better job than a independent. Not everyone believes that to be the case. In fact you could take it do be someone who doesn't really know anything about their car, so really haven't a clue what's been done to it.

Good known independents are the way to go I agree. I use an indy myself and have never been to a dealer as I know how good he is.

Harder to verify the quality of work etc. for a buyer though. While a lot of indys are better a lot will also be worse especially these places offering very cheap servicing with the wrong grade of oil etc.

Scortho

discombobulate wrote: »

Good known independents are the way to go I agree. I use an indy myself and have never been to a dealer as I know how good he is.

Harder to verify the quality of work etc. for a buyer though. While a lot of indys are better a lot will also be worse especially these places offering very cheap servicing with the wrong grade of oil etc.

I'd rather see a ti receipt than an Alasta receipt.
I'd be hoping that anyone who is capable of doing their own servicing is using the right oil anyway.

beauf

I think it would be wise to insist on itemised bills and a full breakdown of costs regardless of who it is. Trust has to be earned.

I don't think this offer is a bad deal. I just wouldn't take it at face value. This is actually a minor service. I would question the reason for calling it a winter service. Same with the pre NCT promotions. Why promote that instead of getting people to schedule their regular service, or minor service, prior to their NCT.

spank_inferno

For any VW owners near a Skoda garage.

Same thing but €20 cheaper.

http://www.skoda.ie/owners/service-offers/Pages/winter-service.aspx

(Oil used is Castrol 'Edge').

mathepac

Peew wrote: »

... Why would you pay 54 euro for no name oil when you can get Castrol 5w/30 cheaper from Halfords.
Castrol would be the dogs for oil.:rolleyes:

:eek: Because my little blue rolly-eyes-to-the-sky mechanic, what you don't know is that your cheaper, generic "Castrol 5w/30" doesn't meet any of the VW oil specifications for their engines.

To find the correct oils with the correct motor manufacturer's specification, use the drop-down lists on the left-hand side of the oils section of the Halfords site. They'll lead you to the correct oils, which won't include cheap, generic "Castrol 5w/30". Simplez. It'll save you wrecking your VW engine or more importantly, someone else's.

reklamos

I'm failing to understand how changing oil and topping antifreeze can be called a service in the first place?
I've used to use main dealers until I've found that by servicing the car they only change oil, air filter, topping some fluids and maybe cleaning the car and this in 'only' for 150Euro when there is a 'special deal'.
In my opinion proper service for diesel should be oil, oil filter, fuel filter, air filter, cabin filter and topups if needed.
All the above cost ~90Euro delivered and these are not some noname halfords parts.
Once you have the parts you have 2 options:
do it yourself (takes 2 hours max)
go with parts to indy and pay 30-40 for the work.

MuppetCheck

TheDriver wrote: »

Unless you need the stamp for warranty purposes, then oil change elsewhere is cheaper. My only concern is that they use oil that will give the proper interval.

My insignia has a 30,000km or 1 year interval. I have taken it to 2 main dealers for the annual service and both of them put 15,000km on the sticker. When questioned and asked about "do i have to bring it back at 15 according to Opel's schedule", they both backed down to a line about some people like to bring them in at 15,000 drumming up business. If Opel say 30, then 30 it is!

I hope for your sake they put long life oil in at the service then and not the standard stuff. I've an Opel diesel and there isn't a hope in hell I'd leave oil in there for 30k km tbh.

mathepac

reklamos wrote: »

I'm failing to understand how changing oil and topping antifreeze can be called a service in the first place? ...

What's your question?

reklamos wrote: »

... I've used to use main dealers until I've found that by servicing the car they only change oil, air filter, topping some fluids and maybe cleaning the car and this in 'only' for 150Euro when there is a 'special deal'.... .

This is referred to as an "oil & inspection service"

reklamos wrote: »

... In my opinion proper service for diesel should be oil, oil filter, fuel filter, air filter, cabin filter and topups if needed..

fuel filter - at the manufacturer's specified interval unless you've had fuel contamination. No manufacturer I'm familiar with specifies the fuel filter needs changing at every oil service

air filter- depending on condition, otherwise as above unless you use an expensive aftermarket item

cabin filter - depending on condition, otherwise as above

fullstop

ted1 wrote: »

That's long life Oil. VW won't use long life oil, if the do they won't tell you and they'll try to bring you back in 50% earlier.
you can still get the oil changed in an independent using the specified oil for cheaper.

How do you know they won't? My VW dealer tells me when they use the long life oil.

Peew

mathepac wrote: »

:eek: Because my little blue rolly-eyes-to-the-sky mechanic, what you don't know is that your cheaper, generic "Castrol 5w/30" doesn't meet any of the VW oil specifications for their engines.

To find the correct oils with the correct motor manufacturer's specification, use the drop-down lists on the left-hand side of the oils section of the Halfords site. They'll lead you to the correct oils, which won't include cheap, generic "Castrol 5w/30". Simplez. It'll save you wrecking your VW engine or more importantly, someone else's.

Yes my scary faced mechanic did as you suggest, you might try it yourself as it came up with the Castrol I use which is cheaper than your no name brand oil.
I tend to use the Auto data to get the specs I require for cars I service which is where I came up with in the beginning.;)

ted1

fullstop wrote: »

How do you know they won't? My VW dealer tells me when they use the long life oil.

Cause I have a drive a VW and each time I get long life put in they try to trick me into coming in early.

TheDriver

MuppetCheck wrote: »

I hope for your sake they put long life oil in at the service then and not the standard stuff. I've an Opel diesel and there isn't a hope in hell I'd leave oil in there for 30k km tbh.

i will check receipt but they did it to Opel spec and as a main dealer must follow spec, he said its fine for 30k. Car will be well gone by time i must worry about ir

fullstop

ted1 wrote: »

Cause I have a drive a VW and each time I get long life put in they try to trick me into coming in early.

Well maybe you should change garage.

sdanseo

An extra €50 quid every year for five years for a VW stamp in the book might be all you get, but it begs the question - would that €250 be recouped in resale value?

With Irish society being what it is and FSH being pretty much the first thing any potential buyer looks for, I'd say it would be worth it.

That, and there's the guarantee (CHECK with them beforehand and don't take any sales bull**** from them) that they're using parts and oil made specifically for the car and that the lads are working on the same vehicles all the time hence might be considered better at the job. It's peace of mind money, no more no less.

Would I bring my 10 year old Vectra to a main dealer? God no.

Would I bring my 2 year old Insignia to a main dealer (well, I wouldn't buy an insignia in a blue fit but that's as may be) - yeah, probably.