What's this skin disease?

Bodacious

It's horrible raised scab on back of his head... Blue tinge on it is just alamycin spray .. Any ideas? Few smaller raised bumps further back on his body under the hair ?

A cow called Daisy

Would it be 'angle berries'? Or that what they called in this part of country. Ones I've seen here are usually a lot smaller though. If so, the old wives tale was to pull off bits, by hand say, and rest fall off through time. But i probably completely wrong on diagnosis.

Deepsouthwest

Bodacious wrote: »

It's horrible raised scab on back of his head... Blue tinge on it is just alamycin spray .. Any ideas? Few smaller raised bumps further back on his body under the hair ?

I would've thought warts, but I could be wrong

Bodacious

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

I would've thought warts, but I could be wrong

Could be warts just very soft and mushy on top ... I suppose where it is though it's getting all the rain ... Ie if it were on lower neck it wouldn't be getting as wet all the time..

If it's warts .. I'll just sit it out and will clear up in time

bbam

I think I'd get some Iodine spray and apply it a few times... help it clear up.

Aru

warts.caused by a papilloma virus in cattle
left to their on devices most regress and fall off and go away within a few months.if theres a few rubbing on each other and dirty gets in they can get infected to a clean out and alamycin spray does no harm. they will go away themselves in time though.

jt65

hair is going into the split, it's going to hold dirt etc,


might be no harm to clip the area , say for 3 inches around it


it looks like warts to me

caseman

Bodacious wrote: »

It's horrible raised scab on back of his head... Blue tinge on it is just alamycin spray .. Any ideas? Few smaller raised bumps further back on his body under the hair ?

Angle berries treat with imaverol twice should get read of it.

FineFilly

We have a bullock with warts at the minute,so rang athe lad with the cure on Tuesday lastweek and there falling off daily with all fresh skin under

greysides

caseman wrote: »

Angle berries treat with imaverol twice should get read of it.

Imaverol is for Ringworm.

Bodacious

Bodacious wrote: »

It's horrible raised scab on back of his head... Blue tinge on it is just alamycin spray .. Any ideas? Few smaller raised bumps further back on his body under the hair ?

Sorry I deleted photo of yearling's head

Bodacious

bbam wrote: »

I think I'd get some Iodine spray and apply it a few times... help it clear up.

I gave it rattle of alamycin spray this evening and when that dried in ... I sealed it with Alu spray as I figured it'd seal out the oxygen same as the burnt oil as I'd also prefer not to be puttin burnt oil into food chain

Miname

Bodacious wrote: »

I gave it rattle of alamycin spray this evening and when that dried in ... I sealed it with Alu spray as I figured it'd seal out the oxygen same as the burnt oil as I'd also prefer not to be puttin burnt oil into food chain

I have a heifer with them. A lad gave me a cure of rubbing cow dung on them with a branch off one of those trees with a white flower and soft branches ( I can't remember the name) anyways I decided to just leave them and they have started to clear up.

caseman

greysides wrote: »

Imaverol is for Ringworm.

Yes it's for ring worm, but i used it for angle berries under the vet's advice

greysides

caseman wrote: »

Yes it's for ring worm, but i used it for angle berries under the vet's advice

Only logical explanation for that would be that if the ringworm were itchy the scratching would promote the spread of the virus. I'd often suggest animals with ringworm were done for lice (if not recently done already) for the same reason. A healthy skin is going to be more resilient.

Years ago, the original Pour-On was touted as a treatment for ringworm too. Even the reps couldn't understand it or recommend it. Only way I could see it helping was through controlling lice and improving general skin (and animal) health.

Most non-surgical ways of removing warts revolve around trying to get the animals immune system to react to them..... rubbing in some castor oil into the wart or pulling/twisting off a few or having the animal eat a few that were pulled off.

Brown Podzol

greysides wrote: »

Only logical explanation for that would be that if the ringworm were itchy the scratching would promote the spread of the virus. I'd often suggest animals with ringworm were done for lice (if not recently done already) for the same reason. A healthy skin is going to be more resilient.

Years ago, the original Pour-On was touted as a treatment for ringworm too. Even the reps couldn't understand it or recommend it. Only way I could see it helping was through controlling lice and improving general skin (and animal) health.

Most non-surgical ways of removing warts revolve around trying to get the animals immune system to react to them..... rubbing in some castor oil into the wart or pulling/twisting off a few or having the animal eat a few that were pulled off.

Would getting the animal to eat the warts have the same effect as getting a vaccine made up from the warts. I have at times put some if the removed warts into a bolus gun and administered. Don't know if it did any good or not, like you say they have a limited life anyway. Warts on heifers teats are my problem.

greysides

I really don't know. I've seen it suggested and I don't think it would cause problems but.....

Figerty

Brown Podzol wrote: »

Would getting the animal to eat the warts have the same effect as getting a vaccine made up from the warts. I have at times put some if the removed warts into a bolus gun and administered. Don't know if it did any good or not, like you say they have a limited life anyway. Warts on heifers teats are my problem.

I had a bullock years ago with the same thing right in the front of his face. Vet said it was virus, like the cold sore one.. he could have cultured a vaccine which most likely wouldn't work and so wouldn't waste his time and my money. No need to treat or to worry about.

He told me they would grow out and fall off in time, which they did.

I agree with the dosing for lice etc to improve the animals health. I kept the same lad until he was 18 months and he made great price at the time in the mart.

J.O. Farmer

I can't say for sure but I doubt if getting the animal to eat some of the warts would have the same effect as a vaccine.
For a vaccine to work you need to stimulate an immune response to the pathogen. This is normally achieved by introducing the pathogen into the body in a state that appears infective without actually being so.
In bacteria you can induce virulence factors and kill the bacteria for example.
With viruses it's trickier as viruses are on the borderline of alive and need host cells to replicate.
Viral vaccines are produced by infecting cells of a different species over and over until it's not very infective in cattle. Take bird flu as an example of a virus not readily passed between humans as it's not very infective in humans butit is in birds.
By giving the animal the warts to eat you are introducing the virus alright but the virus is probably infective in cattle and so could possibly cause disease or it may work and stimulate an immune response.
The other possibility is that the digestive system destroys the virus and nothing happens.
This is all very simplistic though and viruses while quite simple themselves in structure are nasty to work with and quite difficult to make vaccines for. They can evade the immune system for years. You have probably heard of people who had chicken pox getting shingles even though most people don't get shingles even after being around somebody with chicken pox. The shingles is from the chicken pox years before evading the immune system as it doesn't recognise the virus as foreign.
Again if the animal eats the warts and gets the virus the immune system may not be stimulated by it and so that is another possibility.
Vaccines are not quite as straight forward as I have described but in conclusion if you're lucky it might work to get an animal to eat the warts and probably wont cause a problem if you have never had one before.

Rho b

greysides wrote: »

Only logical explanation for that would be that if the ringworm were itchy the scratching would promote the spread of the virus. I'd often suggest animals with ringworm were done for lice (if not recently done already) for the same reason. A healthy skin is going to be more resilient.

Years ago, the original Pour-On was touted as a treatment for ringworm too. Even the reps couldn't understand it or recommend it. Only way I could see it helping was through controlling lice and improving general skin (and animal) health.

Most non-surgical ways of removing warts revolve around trying to get the animals immune system to react to them..... rubbing in some castor oil into the wart or pulling/twisting off a few or having the animal eat a few that were pulled off.

Probably due to the organophospates that was in Ivomec pour-on's in those days. It had a smell like rotting cabbage.

Rho b

Years ago we used to treat ringworm with burnt oil or iodine painted onto the site. In more severe cases and in horses you could buy a product called Fulcin. At the time it was very expensive, about £30 for a small box of it that you mixed into the feed. We also had good results from hanging ivy in the roof of sheds where cattle were housed.
We used to also treat angle berries with iodine/burnt oil and if they were big enough then wrap an elastic band around them tightly to cut off the blood supply. If that didn't work and they were really bad then the vet would apply caustic soda to burn them off.

greysides

Rho b wrote: »

Probably due to the organophospates that was in Ivomec pour-on's in those days. It had a smell like rotting cabbage.

They stuff I'm referring to was organophosphate alright but it wasn't Ivomec, the trade name was 'Pour On'. This was before 'pour on' became a generic term. Ivomec was a new and expensive drug at the time, the standard summer dose was levamisole.