Closed group anyone?

emmabrighton

Hey everyone, I was thinking what would everyone think of having a private sub group for the non drinkers group. As Dave said over in Haven't touched a drop... the group hasn't served its original purpose - whatever that was - and hasn't been locked down due to the recovery type content on here...

I think that I would like to have a closed group sub section where I could feel I could post more freely without non group members popping in for a read...

i know boards is pretty anonomyous anyway but I just thought I would throw it out there to see what the rest of ye think.

Happy Monday y'all.

xzanti

I think that's a good idea definitely gets my vote

beano345

I'd be up for it,I find it hard to post some of my worst moments with the bottle here and if it helps someone who reads it all the better!

stefan idiot jones

I'm in if I can be any help, although I will share my most gruesome stories anytime.

Yeah I'd be up for that.

At first I was very skeptical about what I posted as a lot of people on Boards know me in real life but when I realised that I just post the truth these days compared to when I drank it doesn't really bother me as much to be honest.

Sunnyisland

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

I'm in if I can be any help, although I will share my most gruesome stories anytime.

I be like wise :-)

Emma the original idea for the non drinkers group was for people who don't drink to interact and play scouts and funny things like that.....

emmabrighton

realies wrote: »

I be like wise :-)

Emma the original idea for the non drinkers group was for people who don't drink to interact and play scouts and funny things like that.....

Oh right, thanks Realies!

Well, then a closed sub forum where the more gruesome tales could be told might free up some of the space on the main non drinkers forum for discussion of meetups doing non drinking activities like that...

We could always leave some of the other gateway feeder threads like "haven't touched a drop" to coax new members in :pac:

So anyone done something like this before? What do we do? Do we ask Dave to look into this for us?

Dave!

hmmm, I don't imagine Boards would be too keen to facilitate such a thing. As I mentioned in the other thread—the admins are (or at least, were) a bit uneasy about Boards being used for recovery topics and discussion. So I'd be concerned that asking for a sub-forum to discuss that specifically might draw attention to this forum, and have the opposite effect—they might end up shutting down this forum!

If you feel that it's worth a shot anyway, then start a new thread in Sys > Forum Requests. I don't have any special communication with admins, so there's no point in me trying to get the new forum created—I can't even get this one shut down!

Dave!

Dave! wrote: »

hmmm, I don't imagine Boards would be too keen to facilitate such a thing. As I mentioned in the other thread—the admins are (or at least, were) a bit uneasy about Boards being used for recovery topics and discussion. So I'd be concerned that asking for a sub-forum to discuss that specifically might draw attention to this forum, and have the opposite effect—they might end up shutting down this forum!

If you feel that it's worth a shot anyway, then start a new thread in Sys > Forum Requests. I don't have any special communication with admins, so there's no point in me trying to get the new forum created—I can't even get this one shut down!

Not a forum Dave, a private social group.

Dave!

Ah right. Well I don't know how those things are started :-/

Dave!

Dave! wrote: »

Ah right. Well I don't know how those things are started :-/

I think your point though still stands though on the Admin's stance on such an area. However I don't think it is much different to PI...

emmabrighton

Deleted User wrote: »

I think your point though still stands though on the Admin's stance on such an area. However I don't think it is much different to PI...

Then officially it should be a social group to allow longtime posters to chat and arrange meet ups without getting in the way of the main purpose of the main forum which is to discuss activities that non drinkers can do, right?

Or am I missing something?

I don't mind firing off a request once we are sure we aren't going to bring down the wrath of the admins on this functioning forum...

I would hate to get this one shut down and have everyone here scattered to the four winds

emmabrighton

And this looks like the one we would be requesting:

Private

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Sunnyisland

I have been kinda down this road here before, As far as I know and Dave confirmed,the administrators here don't want a recovery forum as such, For legal and many other reasons,Maybe and it's just a maybe we are better of letting sleeping dogs lie,As it is we are pretty much left alone and we are doing pretty well.

In the past when this was just a meet n greet forum for non drinkers,with no helpfull opinions, it died a death.

I think it is a good idea but I think we might be better off leaving things the way they are just in case as Dave says.

emmabrighton

Fair enough, I won't say anything so...

Dave!

Out of interest are there any other Irish-specific forums that cater for this kind of thing? I would have thought there already is. Is it that people just want to use Boards because they're already members here, or the other ones are sh*t, or don't exist?

I'm a web developer and was thinking before that I could put together something separate from Boards if it would serve a purpose. I do kinda fear that this forum is in a slightly precarious state of limbo, so wouldn't like to see it get closed out of the blue by some zealous admin.

emmabrighton

I joined one or two but quickly closed my accounts as they seemed to have a fair few preachy zealots which put me right off... I have a relatively low tolerance level for some of the more intense people that tend to knock around those forums... they tend to make my teeth ache when they become the embodiment of the recovery technique they are employing. Works for some, turns me right off... I like the more "normal" atmosphere that exists here...

That's why I thought a closed group here would be the way to go... People seem to be more normal here and are just looking to give up drinking. They aren't looking to join a cult... or that's what I've noticed anyhoo. I haven't read any posts that would make me want to scratch my eyes out...

If you could keep the same ethos on another forum... cool, it would be great otherwise... not so sure I would participate...

Sunnyisland

Dave! wrote: »

Out of interest are there any other Irish-specific forums that cater for this kind of thing? I would have thought there already is. Is it that people just want to use Boards because they're already members here, or the other ones are sh*t, or don't exist?

I'm a web developer and was thinking before that I could put together something separate from Boards if it would serve a purpose. I do kinda fear that this forum is in a slightly precarious state of limbo, so wouldn't like to see it get closed out of the blue by some zealous admin.

Dave, I don't know of any successful Irish ones,but there are few web based ones out there, ,I was involved in one for a long time, Mywayout.org, that helped me great,it's very hard to keep people/posters intrested as we all know it's no easy task to stay free,IMO For me this one has the added attraction of being involved with the greater boards.ie structure, it suits me fine,IMO .

Just Like Heaven

The online dating group has been relatively successful I believe. The admins too were iffy about this at first before making a private hosted forum.

Given its success they're maybe more likely to consider giving a non drinkers forum a go, assuming it's as well and as actively moderated as the online dating group.

Although that being said the existence of one forum can't be used to argue the creation of another, plus the online dating group might have had more supporters.

Can't hurt to post a forum proposal and promise stringent moderation I don't post here a lot but I read it almost everyday and I don't think this forum has caused too much trouble, at least from what I've seen.

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Sign me up.

emmabrighton

Could we not just say that we would like the regular posters to have a place where we could chat without the greater boards.ie population having a read also...

We are not saying we are going to go all "drink, drink, drink" in there... and advocating everyone to go to meetings... but, then again, why else would it need to be private...

Sunnyisland

emmabrighton wrote: »

Could we not just say that we would like the regular posters to have a place where we could chat without the greater boards.ie population having a read also...

We are not saying we are going to go all "drink, drink, drink" in there... and advocating everyone to go to meetings... but, then again, why else would it need to be private...

Yes your right, if we had like fewtins above said, I would have no problem with it,as I no only to well this can be a very personell and lonely battle.

Econoline Van

Why not just start a "boardsies thread" on mywayout?