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Profit Monitor

  • 11-01-2014 11:32am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭


    any figures yet


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Yep, the adviser emailed me out results from the 1st 200 farmers who completed theirs for teagasc (so these results would be skewed towards the better farmer who have their act together.) Anyways average of 16c/l profit before repayments/tax etc, the top 20% were doing 20c/l. Considering the exceptional milk prices, 16c is by no means huge, increased feed costs obviously took their toll during the cold spring and summer drought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Brown Podzol


    Ffs , posting results of so called profit monitors on a public forum. No charge for your own input, labour and professional expertise. Do you see your suppliers posting their margin on here or the purchasers of your products posting theirs. Cutting a stick to beat yourself with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    Ffs , posting results of so called profit monitors on a public forum. No charge for your own input, labour and professional expertise. Do you see your suppliers posting their margin on here or the purchasers of your products posting theirs. Cutting a stick to beat yourself with.

    Don't agree as Greenfield program and others do it. Do you honestly think it makes a difference.

    It's the few jackasses on here would stop me before any other concerns


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭epfff


    delaval wrote: »
    Don't agree as Greenfield program and others do it. Do you honestly think it makes a difference.

    It's the few jackasses on here would stop me before any other concerns

    Beef and jackass man here
    Ahhh the white gold the white gold
    Why am I not at it sher Ye are all multi millionaires


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭biddy2013


    I won't be putting my results up here that's for sure. Last year was a year to forget. Time to move on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭epfff


    Ffs , posting results of so called profit monitors on a public forum. No charge for your own input, labour and professional expertise. Do you see your suppliers posting their margin on here or the purchasers of your products posting theirs. Cutting a stick to beat yourself with.

    on a serious note
    Yeer customers have it calculated years ago and adjust every time any variable moves
    they also know the differen. Levels of skill/complacency out there

    Ps. Never begrudge a true dairy man profit as the few round me work harder earlier and smarter 365 days a year than me or any @f my beef or sheep friends


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭funny man


    Total costs 26.8c/L
    Total profit 14.8c/L (not inc Dp's)

    Net profit/hec E1989 whole farm dairy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭stanflt


    feed cost of 9c litre :eek::eek: which includes all purchased feed minerals brewers etc

    output per cow 4400

    18.5c l p

    2888 kilos of milk solids sold per ha

    672kgms sold per cow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭funny man


    stanflt wrote: »
    feed cost of 9c litre :eek::eek: which includes all purchased feed minerals brewers etc

    output per cow 4400

    18.5c l p

    2888 kilos of milk solids sold per ha

    672kgms sold per cow

    9cent in the year gone by wouldn't be over the top. What % of solids was produced from own resources? And profit/hec whole farm (not inc dp's). What is 18.5c/l


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭stanflt


    funny man wrote: »
    9cent in the year gone by wouldn't be over the top. What % of solids was produced from own resources? And profit/hec whole farm (not inc dp's). What is 18.5c/l

    18.5 cent per litre profit

    335 kg ms per cow from forage

    2161 profit per ha across whole farm- 101 milkers 125 0-20month old replacements and 20 bulls


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Serious amount of kgs MS/ha, I remember you saying before your future cows will be lower yeilding, where the optimum point, 2000? The greenfield and alot of monitored farms aim for about 1400 I think? Or would you aim to match the output to say milk price, when its high feed the cows to yeild more etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    stanflt wrote: »
    feed cost of 9c litre :eek::eek: which includes all purchased feed minerals brewers etc

    output per cow 4400

    18.5c l p

    2888 kilos of milk solids sold per ha

    672kgms sold per cow

    Your grazing block is 24 ha is it, what area is required on top of that to support your young stock/silage requirements/cropped in maize be interesting to
    see how much total ground is required in a system such as yours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭stanflt


    78 ha required of which 10 ha grows about 5 ton dm ha pa from may - sept with plenty of surface water and rushes


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Ffs , posting results of so called profit monitors on a public forum. No charge for your own input, labour and professional expertise. Do you see your suppliers posting their margin on here or the purchasers of your products posting theirs. Cutting a stick to beat yourself with.

    They're too busy laughing all the way to the bank, they probably make 32 cents a litre, with the delivery guy putting it on the shelf and the customer taking it off for them.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭dar31


    Great performance for the year stan
    What is your whole farm stocking rate inc rented ground and any other crops that contribute to the dairy/replacement enterprise. I think you said all purchased feed and forage has been included.
    Curious as I've been running at 2.89 Ly/ha whole farm up till this year, but when purchased forage (not meal under t/cow) was included it was back to 2.4-2.6 Ly/ha

    Generally figures people quote are the gross/ net or common figures as there is a huge difference

    Edit : do people include creditors for the year end in their figures


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    dar31 wrote: »
    Edit : do people include creditors for the year end in their figures

    Oh sweet baby


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭dar31


    Oh sweet baby
    Put them in every year but the pm is very open as to what figures people use
    Pm is for my own benefit not to compare with others.

    Some people that are just getting to grips with pm leave out creditors on the basis that they will be roughly the same as last year and carry through the next years pm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    dar31 wrote: »
    Put them in every year but the pm is very open as to what figures people use
    Pm is for my own benefit not to compare with others.

    easy manipulate so by the sounds of things, I taught PM were all about comparing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭stanflt


    dar31 wrote: »
    Great performance for the year stan
    What is your whole farm stocking rate inc rented ground and any other crops that contribute to the dairy/replacement enterprise. I think you said all purchased feed and forage has been included.
    Curious as I've been running at 2.89 Ly/ha whole farm up till this year, but when purchased forage (not meal under t/cow) was included it was back to 2.4-2.6 Ly/ha

    Generally figures people quote are the gross/ net or common figures as there is a huge difference

    Edit : do people include creditors for the year end in their figures


    Not sure on overall stocking rate but I know on 78 ha I was at 189 nitrates
    Luckily I had exported 320000 litres of slurry last April

    Don't have creditors luckily just month ends


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    easy manipulate so by the sounds of things, I taught PM were all about comparing

    It's right they are open to manipulation, so I wouldn't get too hung up on other people figures if I didn't know them too we'll. They're best used for comparing ur own farms performance from yr to yr. The more yrs u complete one the more u get out of it, at least that's what I think!


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