'Daysel saves you €'s', but not $'s ???

Capri

No real savings in the US for 'daysel' fans :rolleyes:

Chevy's Diesel Sedan Is A Terrific Little Car That Won't Save You Any Money

Diesel Won't Save You Money
I haven't tested the other diesel in the compact segment, the 2014 VW Jetta TDI, so I don't know how they line up (pricing and gas mileage are pretty close).

But my guess is that more people will be deciding between the regular Cruze and the Cruze Diesel than between the Jetta TDI and the Cruze Diesel.

So it's worth looking at how the Cruzes compare. The diesel cost $7,615 more than the Cruze LS, the cheapest gas-powered version of the car. That's a 44% jump, huge in a segment full of price-conscious buyers.

But the Diesel delivers better fuel economy than its gas-powered brother. That means you save money, right?

Nope. The improved mpg number will never pay off, because diesel fuel is a lot more expensive than regular gasoline (premium is a different story).

We crunched the numbers: To make the Cruze Diesel a better bargain its gasoline-powered brother, you'd have to drive more than 2.6 million miles.
Diesel costs $.50 more per gallon than gas, diesel drivers save only .287 cents per mile. So it takes a lot of driving to cover the $7,000 price difference.

That number is based on the national average fuel prices (provided by AAA on January 8) the MSRP for each vehicle, and the EPA-rated highway gas mileage for each. We chose the highway number to be generous to the diesel — that's where it does best

A Few Caveats
First of all, gas prices can change. The gap between gasoline and diesel is the result of government policies, which aren't set in stone.

Then there's the added power that comes from the diesel engine, and the improved resale value.

And the Cruze Diesel can drive over 700 highway miles on a full tank. If you never have to use the bathroom and/or sometimes end up being chased by the police, we think we've found just the car for you.

hi5

Diesel is subsidised on this side of the world, remember a few years ago when diesel prices went higher than petrol, the government increased the tax on petrol in the budget to make it more expensive:mad:
In the US they seem to be going down the hybrid path.

Frankie Lee

hi5 wrote: »

Diesel is subsidised on this side of the world, remember a few years ago when diesel prices went higher than petrol, the government increased the tax on petrol in the budget to make it more expensive:mad:
In the US they seem to be going down the hybrid path.

Less cancerous anyway.*

*I am aware that direct injection petrols are emitting particulate matter but am sceptical as to whether they are as carcinogenic as their diesel counterparts.

Capri

Frankie Lee wrote: »

Less cancerous anyway.*

*I am aware that direct injection petrols are emitting particulate matter but am sceptical as to whether they are as carcinogenic as their counterparts.

VW US touting 1.4 boosted petrol as more economic than diesel -

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/01/08/vw-diesel-gasoline-mpg/4364697/

Volkswagen says its Passat with a new-generation small-displacement gasoline engine should get diesel-like fuel economy -- 42 mpg on the highway
The current Passat diesel with automatic transmission is rated 40 mpg on the highway; with manual, 43 mpg
The key piece of the Passat BlueMotion is the 1.4-liter, four-cylinder gasoline engine. It's from the new EA211 engine line and features direct injection and turbocharging -- same combination that's the basis of Ford Motor's EcoBoost engine family

unfit2006

43 mpg on the highway doesnt sound great to be honest and doesnt compare to diesel economy in my opinion.
But then again an American gallon is about 6.5 pints so 43 miles to an American gallon would be nearly 53 mpg to the imperial gallon. That would be about right I suppose.

Capri

I wonder how many actually know/compare their running costs say on diesel v's petrol - total purchase/running costs

Diesel car dearer to buy / more expensive engine parts / actual mpg (hard driving ) v's manufacturers figures

Any diesel drivers I talk to don't know what mpg they're getting, they just say 'better mpg than a petrol'