Social welfare forcing you to take up course/work

Mrs Garth Brooks

Has anyone been called to attend a group engagement session with a follow up one-on-one appointment after?


I had a group engagement session which was straight forward. Just a presentation on what's available regarding training/employment.


Its this one-on-one appointment i'm dreading. What happens at this? Don't they force you onto a course or something?


I've spent all day thinking what kind of course I would like to do but I'm not interested in any of the fas courses. And the thought of spending weeks on a course I have no interest in. If its a full-time course, I'm ****ed cause I genuinely have no interest in any of the courses available in Galway (or anywhere else). I'll be spending €40+ on a weekly bus ticket for a full time (Monday-Friday) course I have no interest in. That's a terrible waste of money.


If its not a full time course, it'll be a part-time course where they are normally held in the evening. My last bus home is at 6 in the evening. I'll be spending €30 on a hackney home and again for a course I have no interest in.


I finished a course in 2012. Before this, I worked for 6 years. So im not making excuses not to do something. Why send me on a course that won't benefit me at all?


I'm not sure how they'll be if I go in with information on a distance learning course I do have interest in. But its €800 and from the UK.


I am also planning on moving over to the UK in a few weeks for work, in February or March. As soon as I get work over there. It doesn't make sense to move over without work. But because i'm on JA, i'm on my own, so I have to take my time until im ready. I'll go tomorrow if I was on JB.


But I have a feeling they just want me on a course or something which will just throw a spanner in the works and my plans on moving to England. €40 for a weekly bus ticket or €30 for a hackney home for one evening a week. Well that money is better saved to get my ass over to England.




Do they send you out on work like community work or anything like that? Does anyone know? I wouldn't mind that if its in my village and I have no travel costs. I knew a lady who was doing this type of work and she was doing a full week. But do they allow you a few days off to fly off to attend for an interview in England?


If I don't co-operate I get cut off. But im not sitting on my ass either.


I know someone who was called for this a couple of months ago and they genuinely have no interest in working and wants to stay on the dole, never worked a day in their lives, never been on a course. And they never followed up and sent her on a course they were meant to.


Just my luck, they'll target me and fcuk me onto a course.


Sorry, just a rant here. But do they force you if they see you're doing something?

Annasopra

No you don't get forced to do a course but they do try to go through all of your options with you?

snubbleste

Actually you are forced to do something. It's called '"labour activation" and if you don't "engage" they'll reduce your payment and possibly stop it.
Ir does not have to be a course. Look at all other options.

Riesen_Meal

snubbleste wrote: »

Actually you are forced to do something. It's called '"labour activation" and if you don't "engage" they'll reduce your payment and possibly stop it.
Ir does not have to be a course. Look at all other options.

Correct,

They forced me into a shambles of a course last year, I left it as luckily I found work....

Mrs Garth Brooks

snubbleste wrote: »

Actually you are forced to do something. It's called '"labour activation" and if you don't "engage" they'll reduce your payment and possibly stop it.
Ir does not have to be a course. Look at all other options.

One of the options was jobseeking abroad. Giving us all information and telling us that we're entitled to JB for 12 weeks in another EEA country.


Of course this is what I want and planning, but I'm on JA so I have to take my time. But would they help me, probably not until I do what they want me to do.

People are being forced onto courses and if you refuse your payment is cut. It's happening all over the country and many of the courses are an absolute joke. Plant potting is one I heard about awhile back that people were bring forced onto. Another thing they are doing is forcing people to do a jobsbridge which is disgraceful

snubbleste

JA is not transferable abroad.

Carson10

how long have you been out of work? If you last finished a course in 2012 does that mean your nearly 2 years doing nothing?

A Fas course not just updates your skills it prepares you for re-entering the employment field. i.e. Getting up in the morning and having a dedicated routine, and saying to future employers, look, I could not find employment for the last year or so but I took the initiative to further my skills and was not hanging about like a bum for the last 2 years.

A lot of people in Ireland are unemployed because they prefer to just sit back until some leprechaun comes along and hands them a job.

Again lots of unemployed people failed to take up the numerous holiday jobs on offer over the Christmas period, because they couldn't have been arsed.

cee_jay

Closing thread as I currently do not have time to review currently. OP if you want this reopened PM me and I will review when I get a chance.
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