Porsche Cayenne

donalom993

does anyone have experience of the early Porsche cayenne.03-06 model.I'm thinking of buying a 2005 4.5 V8.Whats it like, any problems,expensive?

kev1.3s

donalom993 wrote: »

does anyone have experience of the early Porsche cayenne.03-06 model.I'm thinking of buying a 2005 4.5 V8.Whats it like, any problems,expensive?

Wouldn't exactly call it a classic!

biko

Moved from Classics to main Motors forum.

You can find previous threads on boards here

delthedriver

1st cousin to the VW Touraeg.

Thirsty but powerful beast, coupled with German reliability:)

SleeperService

delthedriver wrote: »

coupled with German reliability:)

Damned with faint praise...

delthedriver

SleeperService wrote: »

Damned with faint praise...

Can you add anymore?:)

SleeperService

delthedriver wrote: »

Can you add anymore?:)

Im suggesting german automotive engineering is no longer automatically a byword for reliability.

ironclaw

donalom993 wrote: »

does anyone have experience of the early Porsche cayenne.03-06 model.I'm thinking of buying a 2005 4.5 V8.Whats it like, any problems,expensive?

Literally a Toureg with a different shell / engine. Obvious a few minor bits and pieces changed but effectively the same. Remembering ordering a part of a Toureg and noting the Cayenne had the same part but it was at least double the price. The difference was the badge. Nothing more.

A V8 is going to be expensive to run and tax but thats all relative to what your driving now etc. If that doesn't phase you I'd say go for it as the spec on most is very high and they are going to very cheap now a days.

Oafley Jones

SleeperService wrote: »

Im suggesting german automotive engineering is no longer automatically a byword for reliability.

Especially that vintage of VAG SUV. Would not touch it.

donalom993

The one I'm looking at has been converted to commercial. Mileage will be about 10000kns a year,trying to find out if it's reliable? Any major problems with them? Always wanted a V8 and a porsche so 2 in 1!!

Bigus

The V8 block can suffer from serious bore issues, but apparently the v8 turbo doesn't suffer because believe it or not its a different block. Lots of good info online but mainly American sites.
They are very heavy and very thirsty, and very un Porsche like to drive, being big and unwieldy.

Some cooling pipe problems too that need rectification buried in the V I think .

If you do buy one,I know an Indy mechanic that knows them well.

donalom993

Bigus wrote: »

The V8 block can suffer from serious bore issues, but apparently the v8 turbo doesn't suffer because believe it or not its a different block. Lots of good info online but mainly American sites.
They are very heavy and very thirsty, and very un Porsche like to drive, being big and unwieldy.

Some cooling pipe problems too that need rectification buried in the V I think .

If you do buy one,I know an Indy mechanic that knows them well.

Thanks for the info. Will have to see. I'll get back to u if I buy

darragh o meara

donalom993 wrote: »

The one I'm looking at has been converted to commercial. Mileage will be about 10000kns a year,trying to find out if it's reliable? Any major problems with them? Always wanted a V8 and a porsche so 2 in 1!!

Commercial.. Nice

coylemj

donalom993 wrote: »

The one I'm looking at has been converted to commercial.

Making it all the more bizarre why you originally posted this in 'Classics'.

The only thing 'classic' about the Cayenne is that it is and was a monumental waste of money.

galwaytt

OP - is it a Galway reg one by any chance ?

donalom993

coylemj wrote: »

Making it all the more bizarre why you originally posted this in 'Classics'.

The only thing 'classic' about the Cayenne is that it is and was a monumental waste of money.

That was an error

donalom993

galwaytt wrote: »

OP - is it a Galway reg one by any chance ?

No it's a KE reg on carsireland.also a 3.2 commercial on donedeal

Clungewellies

I run an '08 Turbo, I'd be cautious of the pre' 08 ones (before facelift). Never had a single problem with it. But expect any V8 to be heavy on juice. I average about 20 MPG combined, with 2/3rds being motorway and country driving, but I'm only clocking about 9,000 kms a year so it's not killing me. Its never going to be a true Porsche as it's a jeep, end of. If I recall off the top of my head the engine problem is something to do with plastic coolant pipes, which in the turbo have been replaced with more reliable metal ones. Apart from being a little prone to drink petrol and sip oil the engine is the beans.

Best of luck!

pafro

I drive one. 2003 Cayenne S.

Before issue with engine has been mentioned already.
Also, I just replaced the coolant pipes that will break at some stage. Porsche used plastic pipes and I have them now replaced with aluminium ones. (my plastic ones were still ok, but I wanted to be sure I replace them before they start to leak)
Parts cost me around 700 EUR and labour another 700. (13h work)

I did a test drive in a X5 4.4i, Touraeg V8, XC90 T6 and an ML Mercedes before I bought the Cayenne.
No Q7 with petrol was available at that time so didnt drive one of these.
Wanted to have a Cayenne Turbo but there was no one for sale when I was looking for a new car.
"Unfortunately", 2 weeks after I bought mine, 2 Turbos where advertised on carzone...

All in all the best all-rounder with proper off road capabilities if needed.
Indeed its based on the Toureg and Q7, but believe me the "brothers" driver like a boat compared to the Cayenne!

Other things to watch for are the aircon and, if fitted, the air suspension.

Running costs are pretty ok IMHO.
Tax 1800 i think, and insurance is around 500. I drove a 2005 Volvo V 70 R AWD before and the insurance was a bit higher.
Fuel consumption depends to the "weight of your right foot".
Can do 29 MPG on the Motorway with cruise control on but also single digits MPG on the german autobahn.

Would take one with heated seats as leather was standard.
PCM, SatNav etc, is nice to have but the UI on these is outdated and sometimes hard to understand. SatNav is better if you have an external devise. (I use Navigon on my iPhone)
Gearbox is a 6 speed Tiptronic S which "learns" how you drive. The buttons on the steering wheel to change gears is a nice thing and I use it mostly when driving in town or to overtake.

Sound... Well the sound is probably the best thing on this car. Especially when driving between 1800 and 2200 rpm.. very very deeep rumble.
Also not to miss the "scream" when accelerating...

Go and do a test drive.

One thing I would not go for is the 3.2 version.
Its the VR6 engine that VW had in their Golfs etc.
That engine had some issues and the fuel consumption is only a tiny bit lower than the V8. The car is pretty heavy so you are constantly accelerating with the V6 engine.

Clungewellies

Have to agree about the "brothers" point, worlds apart in the drivers seat. Also the sound off the naturally aspirated V8s is enough reason to buy one, bar the AMG v8s I don't think much beats it.

pafro

Just looked at the one on carsireland.
Has 21 inch wheels on it from the later GTS. But no air suspension.
Will be a hard ride on these alloys. The tyres look like a thin layer of black paint

Also nothing mentioned about service history in the ad. No service history, no buy IMHO

Steady Zeddy

I looked at a couple of Cayenne S a couple of months back - but an Evo review put me off them - specificallly the issue on the cylinder coatings -

EVO - "..The big problem is the S’s Lokasil cylinder-coating failure. It starts with a sudden appetite for oil and an increasing knock, followed by a misfire as the bores and pistons are shredded. From first signs to death can take as little as 500 miles, and the problem can strike from around 70,000 miles. Turbos and later S models have a Nikasil coating which gives no trouble..."

http://www.evo.co.uk/buying/buyingguide/288394/porsche_cayenne_buying_checkpoints.html

pafro

I am a member and moderator of the largest car forum/community in Europe.
Out of the over 600 Cayenne drivers, only a handful had engine problems based on the cylinder-coating failure.

It is a problem, but not as big as evo says.

Also compared to the overall numbers of sold Cayennes, the percentage of affected cars is low.

Indeed it is a pain in the a** if your own car has this problem, but it never put me off buying one

coolbeans

It looks like a pig with leprosy and it is a VW in drag. Other than that happy days.

actually!

I have a 2005 Turbo.

Coolant pipes are the biggest potential problem. They will go at some point, so factor in the cost of replacement pipes if it has not been done already.

Other problem items are coil packs, Cardan shaft, rear hatch shocks, and a few other things that I can't recall right now. Lots of great info on Rennlist. Have a look there.

slattsteen

Hey all, i know this pisf is years old but ive bedn really thinking oc getting myself a cayenne.
How do u guys insurs them ? Fbd wouldn't quote me as a 07 was too old 🀔😫

California Dreamer

pafro wrote: »

Just looked at the one on carsireland.
Has 21 inch wheels on it from the later GTS. But no air suspension.
Will be a hard ride on these alloys. The tyres look like a thin layer of black paint

Also nothing mentioned about service history in the ad. No service history, no buy IMHO

I noticed the wheels too and there was just something 'off' about it.

I thought at 7k it was overpriced as well.

biko

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