Need help with cooker hoods

nemo32

So we got a new kitchen a year and a half ago and we both a trendy ikea cooker hood. It's just a filter hood from what i can gather and doesn't have a vent to the outside. No steam seems to be sucked out when we use it as the surrounding presses and walls are dripping with water when we finish cooking and our kitchen units around the hod are starting to come apart with the steam damage. We are getting the presses replaced under warranty so we need to replace the hood now, what is the best type of cooker hood to remove steam and odours(house stinks after cooking), and how much are we looking at for a good one? We paid 500 euro for the ikea one and it was the biggest waste of money ever.
All advise welcome.. Thanks

NIMAN

I have a recirculation hood like this too (not Ikea) and it works fine as long as you keep the filters clean.

Did you install a filter in it, because when I bought mine and had it installed it did not have a filter included, had to buy it after and stick it in. Plus there are wire mesh filters on the underside (will be facing down on to your cooking surface) and these can get greasy and dirty over time too.

Advice from a DIY store website
Recirculation hoods draw air into the appliance through the filters to neutralise odours and remove grease particles. The cleaned air is then returned into the kitchen. A carbon filter or re-circulating kit is necessary for re-circulation.

Clean the grease trap (metal filters can be cleaned in the dishwasher) and replace the charcoal filter on a regular basis.

Can be used in almost all kitchens with low installation costs. Removes grease and odours from the air and ensures that odour free air is returned into the kitchen

Charcoal filter needs replacing regularly and can’t remove moisture from the air

nemo32

Thanks Niman,

I have no idea but I know we definitely didn't add anything else too it. I know there is a big silver drum in it because I can see this when I take the wire mesh filters out to clean them. How can I tell if there is a filter already there?

NIMAN

Well I just looked at the user manual and it showed you where the filter had to go.

It was a bit awkward to get to and took me quite a while to get it in place.

I would say you definitely don't have one in, so try to track down your manual or else search the net for it if you can get the model number of it. I'd say a new filter and a cleaning of the mesh and you should see results.

nemo32

Will do thanks so much. I know I have the manual in the draw so I'll do that tonight. You might have just saved me a fortune!

NIMAN

I ended up buying mine from a spares company in the UK, think it was expensive enough iirc, and I think it might need changed again very soon. Must be boggin'.

I am guessing that Ikea would stock the filter(s) for it?

benbrown

What you need for these hoods are Charcoal Filters. If you want to pm me the make and model I will see if I can source one for you. I seen this situation before in a house where there was an extractor installed and the installer never bothered to put in a filter. The whole kitchen was destroyed. I have great faith in the Charcoal Filters but remember you must change them ever 6-12 months depending on the usage.

nemo32

NIMAN wrote: »

I ended up buying mine from a spares company in the UK, think it was expensive enough iirc, and I think it might need changed again very soon. Must be boggin'.

I am guessing that Ikea would stock the filter(s) for it?

I had a look at the very small manual and there is nothing stating we need to add a filter
Just had a look at the manual online and it has a carbon filter so I suppose that answers that question

nemo32

benbrown wrote: »

What you need for these hoods are Charcoal Filters. If you want to pm me the make and model I will see if I can source one for you. I seen this situation before in a house where there was an extractor installed and the installer never bothered to put in a filter. The whole kitchen was destroyed. I have great faith in the Charcoal Filters but remember you must change them ever 6-12 months depending on the usage.

Tks, PM Sent
Just had a look at the manual online and the filter we have is a carbon filter. Are the charcoal one's a lot better?

Ectoplasm

nemo32 wrote: »

Tks, PM Sent
Just had a look at the manual online and the filter we have is a carbon filter. Are the charcoal one's a lot better?

The terms charcoal and carbon are often used interchangably. Hopefully fitting the correct one will sort out your issues but there are a couple of other things to consider; the size of your kitchen and the extraction rate of your hood in particular. It is possible that the hood you bought just isn't powerful enough and while I really hope that the new filter sorts everything out for you, if it doesn't then this is a possible reason why. So as not to be a total downer, I should mention thar you can get some really good cooker hoods for around the 100 euro mark. If you do have to replace, pay attention to the extraction rates available and look for IEC rated values.

nemo32

EMF2010 wrote: »

The terms charcoal and carbon are often used interchangably. Hopefully fitting the correct one will sort out your issues but there are a couple of other things to consider; the size of your kitchen and the extraction rate of your hood in particular. It is possible that the hood you bought just isn't powerful enough and while I really hope that the new filter sorts everything out for you, if it doesn't then this is a possible reason why. So as not to be a total downer, I should mention thar you can get some really good cooker hoods for around the 100 euro mark. If you do have to replace, pay attention to the extraction rates available and look for IEC rated values.

Thanks for your reponse,
Do you think charcoal filters are better than carbon? I will check the extraction rate on my at home tonight, What would be a good extraction rate for a good large size kitchen?

Ectoplasm

nemo32 wrote: »

Thanks for your reponse,
Do you think charcoal filters are better than carbon? I will check the extraction rate on my at home tonight, What would be a good extraction rate for a good large size kitchen?

Hey, carbon filters and charcoal filters are often the same thing...the main thing is to get one that fits your hood correctly. :-)

Extraction rates are measured in metres cubed per hour so you'll see something like "Max Airflow" or "Max Extraction Rate" with a number like 580 beside it. To check yours you measure your room and multiply the width x length x height, and then that figure by 10. So if your kitchen is 5m x 4m x 3m then it is 60 metres cubed. Multiplying that by 10 gives you 600. So you need a max airflow above that to ensure that it works effectively.

nemo32

EMF2010 wrote: »

Hey, carbon filters and charcoal filters are often the same thing...the main thing is to get one that fits your hood correctly. :-)

Extraction rates are measured in metres cubed per hour so you'll see something like "Max Airflow" or "Max Extraction Rate" with a number like 580 beside it. To check yours you measure your room and multiply the width x length x height, and then that figure by 10. So if your kitchen is 5m x 4m x 3m then it is 60 metres cubed. Multiplying that by 10 gives you 600. So you need a max airflow above that to ensure that it works effectively.

Thanks EMF2010,
So we measured our kitchen and it's actually 60 metres cubed. So we are on the search for a new cooker hood because there is no way our Ikea hood is higher than 600 MER. If we get a vented hood are we still looking for the same MER rate?

gctest50

nemo32 wrote: »

So we got a new kitchen a year and a half ago and we both a trendy ikea cooker hood. It's just a filter hood from what i can gather and doesn't have a vent to the outside. No steam seems to be sucked out when we use it as the surrounding presses and walls are dripping with water when we finish cooking and our kitchen units around the hod are starting to come apart with the steam damage. We are getting the presses replaced under warranty so we need to replace the hood now, what is the best type of cooker hood to remove steam and odours(house stinks after cooking), and how much are we looking at for a good one? We paid 500 euro for the ikea one and it was the biggest waste of money ever.
All advise welcome.. Thanks

You can convert some of them to vent to the outside instead of recirculating - have a look in the manual

sawdoubters

with that much steam you have to vent to the outside

nemo32

gctest50 wrote: »

You can convert some of them to vent to the outside instead of recirculating - have a look in the manual

Tks, Yes we've looked into that but it's not possible with the one we have so we'll have to get a new one

nemo32

sawdoubters wrote: »

with that much steam you have to vent to the outside

Tks sawdoubters, Do you mean with the size of the room the hood needs to be vented?

Ectoplasm

Hi Nemo,

You don't have to vent outside although it does tend to be more effective, so if you are changing you might want to consider that. The extraction rate is based on space and not on whether it is vented or recycled. You shouldn't have to spend too much to replace it by the way.

Ectoplasm

Hi Nemo,

You don't have to vent outside although it does tend to be more effective, so if you are changing you might want to consider that. The extraction rate is based on space and not on whether it is vented or recycled. You shouldn't have to spend too much to replace it by the way.

Ectoplasm

Hi Nemo,

You don't have to vent outside although it does tend to be more effective, so if you are changing you might want to consider that. The extraction rate is based on space and not on whether it is vented or recycled. You shouldn't have to spend too much to replace it by the way.

nemo32

Yes again, have been looking at vented hoods over 600 max rate but they all seem pretty expensive. Where do you think the best place is to buy?

heffo500

Venting outside is really the best way to go and cheapest in the long since you wont need filters is the hood on an outside wall?