Farming in the Ukraine

onyerbikepat

Anyone see the article in this weeks journal (pg 42,11 jan 2014).
That's some company, farming 300,000 ha. Machinery replacement costs alone are a whopping 250 million per year.

Birdnuts

I mentioned in another thread about Ukraines potential to rival the US in grain production. This is only the start of it!!

caseman

Some of the most fertile land in the world hasn't even seen a plough yet.

Conmaicne Mara

It was the bread basket of the mismanaged USSR. Political system there is dodgy to say the least, mostly thanks to their former besties Russia.

kevthegaff

id love to go over there milking, for the women alone! would poland be a better bet with a ore stable government

jaymla627

kevthegaff wrote: »

id love to go over there milking, for the women alone! would poland be a better bet with a ore stable government

Id say so their was uproar back in nov when their goverment rejected a eu trade deal and went back in bed with their russian neighbours, they get proper cold winters out there though combined with hot summers means cows housed all year round

Birdnuts

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

It was the bread basket of the mismanaged USSR. Political system there is dodgy to say the least, mostly thanks to their former besties Russia.

Corruption is a major issue allright. I was talking to a dairy farmer from Limerick recent who employs a Ukrainian couple for milking He asked them about their own farm back home and they told him among other things that they have to lock in the tractor and livestock every night. He asked why thinking it was the weather or something obvious like that?? - turns out the local mafia and their police buddies go around lifting anthing that isn't nailed down in rural Ukraine!!

jaymla627

jp6470 wrote: »

Tip of iceberg.waiting on someone to say it.

A lot of big european farming investments went wallop over there, its not the golden goose the article in the journal makes it out to be

bob charles

kevthegaff wrote: »

id love to go over there milking, for the women alone! would poland be a better bet with a ore stable government

head for the Czech Republic or Slovakia if its women your into.

Romania would be my fancy to head farming, know a few out there, not easy but the opportunities are limitless farming wise

Reggie.

bob charles wrote: »

head for the Czech Republic or Slovakia if its women your into.

Romania would be my fancy to head farming, know a few out there, not easy but the opportunities are limitless farming wise

Gone international bob?

bob charles

Reggie. wrote: »

Gone international bob?

still getting to grips with national at the moment, saw a girl from Cavan (where ever that is) the other day

Reggie.

bob charles wrote: »

still getting to grips with national at the moment, saw a girl from Cavan (where ever that is) the other day

I think it's near tir na nog

kevthegaff

was in estonia last year, whats the land like only saw the nightclubs!

rs8

kevthegaff wrote: »

id love to go over there milking, for the women alone! would poland be a better bet with a ore stable government

why are the women good at milking?:D

Dont be daft

jaymla627 wrote: »

A lot of big european farming investments went wallop over there, its not the golden goose the article in the journal makes it out to be

There are foreign companies making money out there but scale is a big factor.

Not for economy of scale reasons but rather you have to be big enough to put the local Superintendent, politician and mafioso in your pocket. If your lucky one guy will be all 3.

Have a college friend managing a fund with a lot in the Ukraine. All the old cold war infrastructure is still in place so you have a local grain storage, a rail network and a deep water port to bring produce West and an established link East. For that reason its more attractive than Brazil as an investment.

But the rental agreements are very flimsy and politically its not exactly stable.

Have heard of machines arriving down to 5,000 acre plots and the corn's already been cut and long gone :eek:

Reading between the lines, it seems that the investors don't want to put big money into anything they can't drive out of there the next day.

Viewtodiefor

rs8 wrote: »

why are the women good at milking?:D[/quote

Yeah they'll milk you dry ! In more ways than one!

onyerbikepat

I was in east Romania a while back. Minus 20C at the time. Not for the faint hearted. Really impressed with the place. In time , reckon it will catch up with the rest of Europe.

jfh

Birdnuts wrote: »

Corruption is a major issue allright. I was talking to a dairy farmer from Limerick recent who employs a Ukrainian couple for milking He asked them about their own farm back home and they told him among other things that they have to lock in the tractor and livestock every night. He asked why thinking it was the weather or something obvious like that?? - turns out the local mafia and their police buddies go around lifting anthing that isn't nailed down in rural Ukraine!!

agree with this, i work for a company that were involved with retail operations in kiev for the last 20 years, pulled out last year, apparently corruption has gone to a new level.
the ukrainains were a pleasure to deal with but think the mafia is a huge problem. i think it has huge promise though..