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gcurran97

at the moment i can't hit a good shot off the tee with my driver , i just can't manage to get the ball into the air and i'm usually a good driver of the ball , anybody got any ideas on how to fix this ?

dar_cool

try different tee heights, and it sounds basic but keep your eye on the ball, are you topping it or just hitting them very low?

dan_ep82

What driver, loft and shaft are you using?
What swing speed?

Recently my brother bought a second hand covert tour with a matrix ozik 7m3 stiff shaft and was having the same problems.

He was in Halpenny last night and on the flight scope he was averaging 200yds. They changed the shaft to a kuro kage red stiff and he was averaging 240yds. Still not happy they had him hit an RBZ stage 2 with a stiff shaft and he was averaging 260-280yds. We never knew it could have that much effect getting fitted. His swing speed is 107-115mph

martinsvi

your spine is probably all over the place. go to a driving range and start off doing shots at just 50% of power. Keep it slow, take your time. Once it feels like you have perfect control and ball is lifting nicely, increase the power to your swing gradually. Perhaps you are standing too far from the ball and while making a swing you loose your balance.

if going slow doesn't help, before spending any money on gear/fitting, take a lesson from a pro

Nozebleed

Driving range,50 balls,half speed swing and really light grip. I tend to go through phases where i cant hit the driver and this gets me back to basics.

benny79

Im in the same boat really struggling of the Tee with all woods irons are fine am only having 1 or 2 good drivers a round maining hooking them about 40 yds or the total opposite slicing not to bad a slice though.

Any ideas thing the driver isnt suiting me its R11 stiff shaft

Neil Andblomee

Yea it's probably the driver that doesn't suit you, buy a new driver and that should sort it, if not rinse and repeat.

benny79

# I think the driver shaft isnt suiting me or is wrong is what I meant

jcon1913

dan_ep82 wrote: »

He was in Halpenny last night

Can you tell everyone which Halpenny's has this set up? I'd be very interested in this as I got a new driver about 10 months ago and can't hit the ball for nuts. I switched from a cheap starter driver to a Callaway ( can't remember the specific model number now )

shaneon77

http://www.videojug.com/film/golf-how-to-hit-long-and-straight-drives this lad knows his stuff. The video is great to ensure you hit up on the ball. Coupled with practice and experimenting with tee height you'll be hitting bombs again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u68RZjdnVMs this video helps to regain focus when your driving goes missing. A word of warning though, you can easily spend hours watching Shawn clement videos and forget why you went looking in the first place. His website is fantastic too http://www.wisdomingolf.com/

dan_ep82

jcon1913 wrote: »

Can you tell everyone which Halpenny's has this set up? I'd be very interested in this as I got a new driver about 10 months ago and can't hit the ball for nuts. I switched from a cheap starter driver to a Callaway ( can't remember the specific model number now )

It was the Drogehda Halpenny's. They were extremely helpful, over 90minutes free of charge on the flight scope and no pressure to buy after that.

gcurran97

dan_ep82 wrote: »

What driver, loft and shaft are you using?
What swing speed?

Recently my brother bought a second hand covert tour with a matrix ozik 7m3 stiff shaft and was having the same problems.

He was in Halpenny last night and on the flight scope he was averaging 200yds. They changed the shaft to a kuro kage red stiff and he was averaging 240yds. Still not happy they had him hit an RBZ stage 2 with a stiff shaft and he was averaging 260-280yds. We never knew it could have that much effect getting fitted. His swing speed is 107-115mph

taylormade burner superfast , 10.5 loft , stiff shaft , swing speed would be around 112 mph , i usually hit the driver long and straight just cant do it for the last months and its very frustrating

dan_ep82

gcurran97 wrote: »

taylormade burner superfast , 10.5 loft , stiff shaft , swing speed would be around 112 mph , i usually hit the driver long and straight just cant do it for the last months and its very frustrating

If you could hit it well before I'd assume technique over equipment.

I couldn't tell you how to fix it, generally when I skull it it goes low and left and the few things I find sort it for me (as in I hit a different bad shot ) are

Tee it a little higher and swing out right.

Try to hit a low shot on purpose ( i use this for all shot types). Usually I find it helps me understand a bit better how I'm doing it or how my perceptions are wrong.

Get someone to video you face on and from the side. Similar to above,it shows the difference (if there is one) from the swing in your head to the actual swing.

I've yet to take them but I presume the best option of all of them is to get a lesson from a pro if you have the time and money.

PARlance

dan_ep82 wrote: »

Get someone to video you face on and from the side. Similar to above,it shows the difference (if there is one) from the swing in your head to the actual swing..

Jez Dan, you must be really hooking the hell outta it if someone is brave enough to take a video face on... How far away are they standing in front of you

DTL (down the line) and Side View are the two terms used.

dan_ep82

PARlance wrote: »

Jez Dan, you must be really hooking the hell outta it if someone is brave enough to take a video face on... How far away are they standing in front of you

DTL (down the line) and Side View are the two terms used.

Not at all,I usually ask the guy I'm playing against the next day

I'll get the lingo someday!

the greatest game

From being a poor driver of the ball, it is now one of the best aspects of the game.

- I use a Nike sumo 5900 driver - square , 9 degree loft, a few years old, but it it is very straight..

I have found that bending my legs a wee bit made a big difference to me, it almost blocks out hooked shots, and when I am down on the ball , when knees bent, I know I'm not going to hook.
A slight change in my right hand grip, made a difference too, I have the right thumb square to the shaft.. stops driver turning in my hand...
very seldom hook since I made that change.

lastly, tee it up very hight, I like the pro lenght tee's , and for some reason, I found that I used to hook a lot of Pro V's too much spin maybe ?? I stay away from them...

m r c

benny79 wrote: »

Im in the same boat really struggling of the Tee with all woods irons are fine am only having 1 or 2 good drivers a round maining hooking them about 40 yds or the total opposite slicing not to bad a slice though.

Any ideas thing the driver isnt suiting me its R11 stiff shaft

If that's the fujikura blur stiff shaft that came "stock" with the r11 I wouldn't be suprised if it actually is a big part of the problem. Do a quick google for it they were hated.
I know of three people who would say that it singlehandedly nearly f'edup their driving two of them low men.

benny79

m r c wrote: »

If that's the fujikura blur stiff shaft that came "stock" with the r11 I wouldn't be suprised if it actually is a big part of the problem. Do a quick google for it they were hated.
I know of three people who would say that it singlehandedly nearly f'edup their driving two of them low men.

yea stock shaft think thats the 1. rang halpenny they have a few different shafts left in stock so might fly out and try them as the told me the driver is oppolite now..

mike12

benny79 wrote: »

yea stock shaft think thats the 1. rang halpenny they have a few different shafts left in stock so might fly out and try them as the told me the driver is oppolite now..

Lots of good shafts knocking around that will fit the R11 and from the R9 to the R11s will fit. Just look on adverts for a driver with an upgraded shaft.
The head of the driver makes almost zero difference to the ball flight the big thing is finding a shaft that works, i think that u really need to see the ball flight on a range to get something that u like.
What i have done the last couple of drivers is i know from previous fittings what i need so go find 3/4 shafts and do my own fitting then sell on the shafts i haven't used.
Problem is i'm a bit of a hoarder so i still have my R7 limited with a super Graphic design shaft in it. A R9 with a low launch stiff shaft that i was using during the summer in my R11. A R9 with a regular shaft that i used after i hurt my back. Bought a R11S with a Black Project X 6.0 shaft that i though would suit but it's on adverts as it didn't.:)

benny79

Fair play mike I dont know much about shafts but defo will head out to halpenny and test what one's they have left! I normally a good driver of the ball strongest part of my game have the R11 2 years now and my Hc has gone out to 20! and have been really struggling with the driver really taught it was my swing but have tried everything except a different driver as cant really afford one! had the burner model before it and was struggling with that but I never liked it to start with, there was nothing out at the time and felt the sales guy pushed it onto me!! my own fault.

benny79

Hey lads when trying out shafts in drivers what spin rates etc should I be looking to get as I dont really have a clue about the tech end and going to drop out to halpenny to try out a few on their trackman and would like to know what Im looking for as I dont want to be sold a bum steer as has happened in the past!

Ciaranra

Sometmes the indian and not the arrow

alxmorgan

benny79 wrote: »

Hey lads when trying out shafts in drivers what spin rates etc should I be looking to get as I dont really have a clue about the tech end and going to drop out to halpenny to try out a few on their trackman and would like to know what Im looking for as I dont want to be sold a bum steer as has happened in the past!

Check out this:

http://www.andrewricegolf.com/2012/11/optimal-driver-numbers/

and this:

spin rates.jpg

So the basic idea is the faster club head speed (ball speed show in second case) the lower spin and launch angle needed. The lower speed needs more launch and spin to keep the ball in the air longer.

mike12

alxmorgan wrote: »

Check out this:

http://www.andrewricegolf.com/2012/11/optimal-driver-numbers/

and this:

spin rates.jpg

So the basic idea is the faster club head speed (ball speed show in second case) the lower spin and launch angle needed. The lower speed needs more launch and spin to keep the ball in the air longer.

Good charts, it just shows that hitting the ball out of the sweet spot is the thing that really increases distances in the A Rice link the smash is 1.49 or close to the perfect 1.5 which means it is out of the centre of the club face to acheive those distances. Bar this summer you could discount the roll distances he has given see as though we play in Ireland.
For myself i average over 115 swing speed but rarley hit it over 300 yards as i don't hit the sweet spot that often.

ankles

If you're duck hooking or big slicing its not equipment... I should know. Probably swing a little too round/not clearing hips. Either way you end up swinging across yourself, so duff hook or hard slash across the ball.

ShivasIrons

mike12 wrote: »

Lots of good shafts knocking around that will fit the R11 and from the R9 to the R11s will fit. Just look on adverts for a driver with an upgraded shaft.
The head of the driver makes almost zero difference to the ball flight the big thing is finding a shaft that works, i think that u really need to see the ball flight on a range to get something that u like.
What i have done the last couple of drivers is i know from previous fittings what i need so go find 3/4 shafts and do my own fitting then sell on the shafts i haven't used.
Problem is i'm a bit of a hoarder so i still have my R7 limited with a super Graphic design shaft in it. A R9 with a low launch stiff shaft that i was using during the summer in my R11. A R9 with a regular shaft that i used after i hurt my back. Bought a R11S with a Black Project X 6.0 shaft that i though would suit but it's on adverts as it didn't.:)

This is not true, the head can make quite a big difference. Hit the Callaway X Hot and the X Hot Pro and you'll notice a massive difference. The whole club matters not just one component.

As for the OP, he needs to have someone look at him. Advice can't be given unless someone sees the golfer hit a ball.

whizbang

Benny, I would ignore the numbers, unless you find more than 1 shaft that's really comfortable and reliable for your swing.

They will all feel ok, until you find the 'one'. but you may not find it

benny79

Cheers whiz! Yea fingers crossed they have the one Left...
Are most stock shafts only ok or are you better to get upgrades or better shafts when buying a Driver?

PARlance

benny79 wrote: »

Cheers whiz! Yea fingers crossed they have the one Left...
Are most stock shafts only ok or are you better to get upgrades or better shafts when buying a Driver?

My first stock shaft was brutal, my second is great*
*I fixed my swing in between

If your driving used to be the best part of your game then why don't you pick up the same driver you had back then for cheap?
Or even better, have you considered going to get a lesson and asking a pro what he thinks?

Either option will be cheaper in the long run than searching for your perfect shaft.

benny79

When it was the strongest I had a TM R7 Draw Reg flex which I loved after about 2 years everything started going way right got a lesson and was told my swing has improved and I need a stiff shaft! at he time it was cheaper to get a new driver my mistake as it went down hill fro there!

My R11 now stiff shaft when I hit it well its around 280-300 yds but I have no consistency and the good shots are far & few. have had lessons but never asked my pro about the shaft, plus he does nt have a trackman.

Have used mates drivers for 1 or 2 holes and seem to be a bit better ie the bad shot are nt as wild and am more consistent.

Cant afford a new driver plus this is my second since R7 so taught a shaft would be best option plus mike pointed out stock shafts with the R11 were terrible!

benny79

lads just another quick question whats a shaft upgrade? is it just called a shaft upgrade why not the name of shaft i.e project x or something?
I take it if its a upgrade its better than the shaft you have but how do you know it be better for you and if its not how can you call it an upgrade?

alxmorgan

benny79 wrote: »

lads just another quick question whats a shaft upgrade? is it just called a shaft upgrade why not the name of shaft i.e project x or something?
I take it if its a upgrade its better than the shaft you have but how do you know it be better for you and if its not how can you call it an upgrade?

Upgrade in theory should be "better" but better for you is something only you can know. If you can hit various shafts and/or get on a launch monitor you'll know better

When selling drivers companies generally have stock offerings and then upgrade options....so pay x amount more to upgrade to a "better" shaft

Upgrade is the generic term but yes they will have a set of them and project x may be one of them

benny79

Thats what I taught cheers Alxmorgan.
Just a lot of people were saying they have a certain driver with a upgraded shaft without stating what type the shaft was etc.

rollotomasi

benny79 wrote: »

lads just another quick question whats a shaft upgrade? is it just called a shaft upgrade why not the name of shaft i.e project x or something?
I take it if its a upgrade its better than the shaft you have but how do you know it be better for you and if its not how can you call it an upgrade?

The shaft delivers the clubhead to the ball. Approaching impact with the ball, an unsuitable shaft might twist and affect the clubhead angle (and loft) at the ball so opening or closing the face with nothing much wrong with your swing path.
An 'upgrade' doesn't necessarily mean spending a fortune and some clubs have different shaft options that might suit your swing.

alxmorgan

Some of the lingo

http://golfweek.com/news/2012/feb/20/guide-understanding-shaft-vocabulary/

And some Q&A

http://backend.golftipsmag.com/equipment/shafts/5-questions-on-shaft-fitting.html

benny79

any chance of copying and pasting them as sites are blocked in work! no hassle if theres to much content.

alxmorgan

benny79 wrote: »

any chance of copying and pasting them as sites are blocked in work! no hassle if theres to much content.

I'll PM you first one...Second is over many pages

benny79

Cheers Alx! ill check the other one out at home.