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How Israeli diplomats tried to muzzle an Irish journalist

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Sacksian


    The power of the Israel Lobby in Ireland on show.

    An Irish radio journalist has been censored, suspended and barred from his working premises for making a show critical of Israel.

    Here is his account http://electronicintifada.net/content/how-israeli-diplomats-tried-muzzle-irish-journalist/13010

    His podcast http://www.podomatic.com/peterk

    Not a conspiracy.

    His show was in contravention of the Broadcasting Act. A complaint was made. It was upheld.

    If a similarly unbalanced show was made on any other current affairs or political topic, it would also be in contravention of the Act, a complaint could be made to the BAI and, if upheld, that show would be treated similarly.

    Not a conspiracy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Sacksian


    Sacksian wrote: »
    Not a conspiracy.

    His show was in contravention of the Broadcasting Act. A complaint was made. It was upheld.

    Also, this thread belongs in the Politics forum.

    Putting the word "Israel" before "lobby" doesn't make it any more of a conspiracy than if you'd said "cycling lobby".


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Sacksian wrote: »
    Not a conspiracy.

    His show was in contravention of the Broadcasting Act. A complaint was made. It was upheld.
    How specifically was his show in contravention of the Broadcasting act?


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Sacksian wrote: »
    Also, this thread belongs in the Politics forum.

    Putting the word "Israel" before "lobby" doesn't make it any more of a conspiracy than if you'd said "cycling lobby".

    If the cycling lobby were trying (and succeeding) to silence legitimate criticism of their human rights violations and apartheid policies then it would still be a conspiracy.

    Let's not forget this is the same Israeli lobby who had a diplomat expelled for stealing Irish identities to carry out a murder.

    The same Israeli embassy who wants to smear Irish pro-Palestine activists as sexual deviants and mossad agents
    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israels-dublin-embassy-planned-smear-palestine-activists-sexual-deviants-and


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    yes but his program wasn't 'fair and balanced'

    the new rules mean that both sides of an argum:-) ent must be presented, for example

    if i were to do a radio show about the history of astronomy and planned to talk about -Copernicus, Gallileo, Keppler and Newton, in the interest of fair balance I would have to have a flat earther present the counter 'argument' that the earth is 7000 years old and is balanced on a giant turtle at the centre of a static universe.

    if you wished to do a piece on the dangers of skin cancer you could bring in a dermatologist and an oncologist to better inform the public, but you would be in trouble if you failed to provide a counter point from some homeopaths and a voodoo shaman.


    see, it has to be fair and balanced, didnt say anything about honest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Sacksian


    Other complaints about media coverage of Israel in Ireland have not been upheld by the BAI, so the "Israel lobby" can't be all that powerful, can it?

    Again, I'm not sure how this counts as a conspiracy if I can read the name of the complainant, the details of the complaint and the thinking behind the decision to uphold it on a public body's website.

    Should any complaint made to the BAI by a representative body be posted here?

    Unless it's simply because Israel, rather than any other country, is involved?

    Because, obviously, threads about the state of Israel, their diplomats, and foreign policy should end up in a conspiracy theory forum and not politics...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Sacksian


    A complaint was made against a journalist for making an unbalanced show.

    That complaint was upheld by the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland and he was asked to make an apology on his show.

    Instead of apologising for making an unbalanced show, he acted the dick, and was suspended by the community station he worked/volunteered at.

    If you read the article you posted, you'll see that his main complaint about his suspension is with NearFM.

    Why not post this in politics or radio? You'll get a lot more readers and probably a lot more popular support.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭tdv123


    It's not that strange seeing as how Israel is a rogue totalitarian state.


  • Site Banned Posts: 348 ✭✭Khomeini


    Of course this is unsurprising. The oligarchy that operate in Ireland pander to the illegal state of Israel. They can do as they please.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Tzar Chasm wrote: »
    yes but his program wasn't 'fair and balanced'

    the new rules mean that both sides of an argum:-) ent must be presented, for example

    if i were to do a radio show about the history of astronomy and planned to talk about -Copernicus, Gallileo, Keppler and Newton, in the interest of fair balance I would have to have a flat earther present the counter 'argument' that the earth is 7000 years old and is balanced on a giant turtle at the centre of a static universe.

    if you wished to do a piece on the dangers of skin cancer you could bring in a dermatologist and an oncologist to better inform the public, but you would be in trouble if you failed to provide a counter point from some homeopaths and a voodoo shaman.


    see, it has to be fair and balanced, didnt say anything about honest.
    I'm shocked! How dare you correct my ignorance!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 The Manganese Overlord


    Khomeini wrote: »
    Of course this is unsurprising. The oligarchy that operate in Ireland pander to the illegal state of Israel. They can do as they please.

    I don't think so. Ireland is seen as one of the most anti-Israel states in Europe


  • Site Banned Posts: 348 ✭✭Khomeini


    I don't think so. Ireland is seen as one of the most anti-Israel states in Europe

    Israel is doing everything it can to change this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    I don't think so. Ireland is seen as one of the most anti-Israel states in Europe
    "Seen" is the operative word there I would guess.

    I suppose it depends on the governments policies compared to the civilian activisim. The civilian Irish aid might not have been from the Iish gov.
    Or was it? I don't know myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Sacksian


    Torakx wrote: »
    "Seen" is the operative word there I would guess.

    I suppose it depends on the governments policies compared to the civilian activisim. The civilian Irish aid might not have been from the Iish gov.
    Or was it? I don't know myself.

    Ireland has an established history of diplomatic criticism of Israeli policies in relation to Palestine (generally much stronger than other European countries). Ireland did not recognise Israel until the 60s and did not have an embassy there until the 90s.

    From wikipedia:
    On 16 November 2011, unnamed sources from the Israeli Foreign Ministry claimed that "Ireland (is the) most hostile country in Europe" and was "pushing all of Europe's countries to a radical and uncompromising approach". An unnamed official argued that "the Irish government is feeding its people with anti-Israel hatred" and that "what we are seeing here is clear anti-Semitism." An official from the Irish Foreign Affairs Department announced that "the Government is critical of Israeli policies in the occupied Palestinian territories. It is not hostile to Israel and it is clearly wrong to suggest as much," he said. "The notion that this Government is or would be trying to stoke up anti-Israeli feeling is untrue. We are not hostile to Israel. We are critical of policies, particularly in the occupied Palestinian territories. These are not the same things"

    Irish Aid - a body of the DFA - also provides a considerable amount of aid to Palestinian territories.

    This is a straightforward mainstream political discussion and there is nothing conspiratorial or theoretical about any element of the story.

    The OP's views on Israel, shared by successive government foreign ministers, are very much the mainstream view in Ireland.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭stuar


    On the bright side Sharon the Butcher has kicked the bucket, good riddance ye fucking cunt......


    Rot in Hell......



    Mod


    Banned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    whilst the language in the previous post is excessive, it must be remembered that Ariel Sharon was indeed complicit in war crimes.
    Qibya and the Sabra&Shatilla massacres spring to mind


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