LG Curved TV? Usefulness

Digital Solitude

So I'm sure quite a few people have seen the ad for LGs new curved OLED TV. But would the TV be practical in reality?

For a single person, sitting at the correct distance from the screen, it might look nice, with the illusion of it surrounding you, and but wouldn't it have a very narrow viewing angle, meaning a sitting room with couches on both sides of the room, wouldn't be awkward for either side to watch.

That's ny understanding, wondering what other opinions on it would be?

fryup

you need to get out more

Peregrine

Digital Solitude wrote: »

For a single person, sitting at the correct distance from the screen

What does your relationship status has to do with this?

Canis Lupus

Where's the spam link to the dodgy Asian website?

Panthro

what happens if the viewer is cross eyed?!!

anncoates

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

What does your relationship status has to do with this?

The OP is living in digital solitude.

PizzamanIRL

They're going down the iPhone route bringing out new things with little changes to the old version just to sell at full price again.

_Redzer_

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

They're going down the iPhone route bringing out new things with little changes to the old version just to sell at full price again.

Not really, OLED destroys LCD and plasma in every way. It's the next step up.

MJ23

It'll be another fad, just like 3D. There'll be people out there who cant wait to spend as much as they can on one of these.

Duggy747

OLED is the next step up, but you'll see some gimmicky marketing at first to get the public interested at a good level, hence the curved TVs. There will be eventually the standard flatscreen OLEDs when other companies release their products.

Compared to LCD & Plasma, it produces far better quality. Lifespan is supposed to be a bit of a problem at the moment supposedly because of the degradation of the compound that produces the colour blue.

Digital Solitude

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

They're going down the iPhone route bringing out new things with little changes to the old version just to sell at full price again.

But iPhones slight upgrades can have use, I think the curve would actually make the TV worse for the general population

The Backwards Man

TVs used to all be curved, flatscreen is a relatively new phenomenon, regressive step imo.

_Redzer_

Duggy747 wrote: »

OLED is the next step up, but you'll see some gimmicky marketing at first to get the public interested at a good level, hence the curved TVs. There will be eventually the standard flatscreen OLEDs when other companies release their products.

Compared to LCD & Plasma, it produces far better quality. Lifespan is supposed to be a bit of a problem at the moment supposedly because of the degradation of the compound that produces the colour blue.

That's been sorted AFAIK, now they have to sort out low yield rates from scaling to large sizes.

Duggy747

_Redzer_ wrote: »

That's been sorted AFAIK, now they have to sort out low yield rates from scaling to large sizes.

It's not 100% sorted though a lot of money is being pumped into research to get it to higher level akin to LED / LCD / Plasma as they want to ensure it takes over from these. Samsung in particular are hellbent on fixing it since they are a massive screen manufacturer and will presumably want to be one of the first out the door with an OLED phone or at least secure their screens with a company.

It's like Plasma and it's burn-in problems in it's early life which doesn't happen nearly as quickly on a TV unless you kept a static image on it for days.

lau1247

The curve arc is gradual so should not affect it that much and besides these tv starts from 50 inches and above?? The sheer size of the screen should overcome the short coming of the gradual curve for anyone sitting slightly to the side

Don't see much of a problem

glynf

Curved makes sense for 21:9 screens, would work well with 29" monitors.

_Redzer_

Duggy747 wrote: »

It's not 100% sorted though a lot of money is being pumped into research to get it to higher level akin to LED / LCD / Plasma as they want to ensure it takes over from these. Samsung in particular are hellbent on fixing it since they are a massive screen manufacturer and will presumably want to be one of the first out the door with an OLED phone or at least secure their screens with a company.

It's like Plasma and it's burn-in problems in it's early life which doesn't happen nearly as quickly on a TV unless you kept a static image on it for days.

OLED TVs have actually been out commercially since 2007, though with the expense and tiny screens it fell off the radar. Phones have had OLED screens for years too. The galaxy s2 had one and every iteration after does as well. Though the problem there, and with Samsung in general, is that their OLEDs are oversaturated and have inaccurate colours. Done right and they're supposedly brilliant, though.

Tbh I'd wish they'd focus 100% on 4K OLED instead of 1080p OLED or 4K LCD. It might be expensive, but at least that would speed the transition up and would give a real incentive to upgrade from 1080p plasma/LCD.

Call Me Jimmy

This is a case of 'market it and they will come'.

Yer current TV is grand, that goes for everyone.

Captain Chaos

So long as 3D dies and goes away again until holograms and full VR is developed I'm happy.

Billy86

It's kind of telling that when you put 'LG Curved TV' into Google Images it takes a LOT of searching to find any photo's taken from a front-on view (and those pictures don't look very impressive to be mild). Whatever about this OLED stuff, the curved screen is just a poor gimmick it seems.

Daqster

What's the usefulness of TVs that you will one day be able to roll up??

Well, for a start you could have one rolled up in the boot of the car and then when you want to watch a match, film etc, just unfurl the fcuker and stick to the inside of your windscreen. Tilt the seats back and hey presto, be like being at a drive-in.

I'm not suggesting you drive while doing the above by the way - well, not if the Guards are about anyway.

You could also carry smaller versions around for unfurling to watch while camping etc.

Roll up laptops would be what I would most look forward too though.

Still prefer a hoverboard though.

Zab

Duggy747 wrote: »

It's like Plasma and it's burn-in problems in it's early life which doesn't happen nearly as quickly on a TV unless you kept a static image on it for days.

Wow, that Samsung expo video is actually insulting, particularly the ad in the middle.

_Redzer_

Billy86 wrote: »

It's kind of telling that when you put 'LG Curved TV' into Google Images it takes a LOT of searching to find any photo's taken from a front-on view (and those pictures don't look very impressive to be mild). Whatever about this OLED stuff, the curved screen is just a poor gimmick it seems.

Cinema screens are curved for the immersion effect they give, as well as equalising the image from the projector. It's been done for years.

Billy86

_Redzer_ wrote: »

Cinema screens are curved for the immersion effect they give, as well as equalising the image from the projector. It's been done for years.

Yeah but it's a very subtle effect more often than not, and this doesn't seem much different - it's not the revolutionary breakthrough that they're trying to make it out to be. If you're an absolute fanatic for your picture quality, then I guess go ahead - but it won't make a significant difference.

_Redzer_

Captain Chaos wrote: »

So long as 3D dies and goes away again until holograms and full VR is developed I'm happy.

I don't see how they'll be effective. Since light is how they produce the whole image, how will black levels fare? There's not going to be a filter like you have on LCDs to block it out, so how will it be manipulated to give solid blacks?

Tbh give me a flat sheet of a TV screen and I'll be happy. I also believe 3D will never die. We're not going to still have 2D images hundreds of years in the future. It'll really catch on when the effect won't require glasses.

Billy86

_Redzer_ wrote: »

It'll [3D] really catch on when the effect won't require glasses.

That and overcoming or getting around the issue of being quite limited by the dimensions of the TV screen are the big ones - could take a good long while or it could be just around the corner, but once that gets solved it could well be to 2D what much smaller/more concealable mics were to silent cinema.

_Redzer_

Billy86 wrote: »

Yeah but it's a very subtle effect more often than not, and this doesn't seem much different - it's not the revolutionary breakthrough that they're trying to make it out to be. If you're an absolute fanatic for your picture quality, then I guess go ahead - but it won't make a significant difference.

I agree, I think the real incentive is to minimalise the huge size of the TV by making it appear smaller.
AFAIK, they go up to 105" now, with 80" fast becoming the new 55" standard we have today. It's not crazy considering 32" was considered big and standard 10 years ago.

The curve could be a way to rationalise the size because it gives a benefit in making it more immersive -if more subtle in reality.

AlmightyCushion

Duggy747 wrote: »

It's not 100% sorted though a lot of money is being pumped into research to get it to higher level akin to LED / LCD / Plasma as they want to ensure it takes over from these. Samsung in particular are hellbent on fixing it since they are a massive screen manufacturer and will presumably want to be one of the first out the door with an OLED phone or at least secure their screens with a company.

It's like Plasma and it's burn-in problems in it's early life which doesn't happen nearly as quickly on a TV unless you kept a static image on it for days.

OLEDs have been about for years in phones already. Personally, I prefer IPS displays to them. OLEDs have horrible whites that appear yellow or blue and colours seem very over saturated, nothing looks natural. Black levels are great on them and the fact that you can power on individual pixels instead of the whole screen is a huge advantage that lets you do cool things like the notifications on the Moto X.

Billy86

I remember when 14" was dead set, set-in-stone standard, and anything above 22 was gigantic.

When I put "old 22 inch tv" into Google images, nearly everything I get is STILL flatscreen! Where are the early 90s space absorbers of my youth - like this fella, but a bit older and clunkier again. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1cn8DXsf10Q/TaenIEY5dxI/AAAAAAAAAD8/x3TO7UoH-nw/s1600/Tube-Television.jpg

biko

Duggy747 wrote: »

Goddammit I hate business people.

NuckingFacker

No idea about curvey oleds, but I saw hardly normal had a massive flatscreen that was on sale for €20,000.00 reduced to €10,000.00 there last weekend. Verr nice, but if i'd paid the 20k, I'd be a bit pi55ey to see it for 10k a few days later. Anyone got one?

Karl Stein

It's not curvy it's fat.








/runs

Peanut Butter Jelly

I think while it may be nice if you want a home cinema set up for one or two people, in the grand scheme of things it's a sideways, if not a move at all in picture quality. We shot up to 1080p in what seemed no time, but we can't make the leap to 2k, nevermind 4k. That's where we should be putting the investment into, and then add the gimmicks after. 1080p is fine on your laptop, and on your tv up to a certain size. There after it becomes pixleated.

_Redzer_

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

OLEDs have been about for years in phones already. Personally, I prefer IPS displays to them. OLEDs have horrible whites that appear yellow or blue and colours seem very over saturated, nothing looks natural. Black levels are great on them and the fact that you can power on individual pixels instead of the whole screen is a huge advantage that lets you do cool things like the notifications on the Moto X.

IPS is superior in many ways and I prefer it too, but LCD used to be fairly terrible in PQ as well and it has advanced a lot. OLED will be the same as well because it has much more to offer. It's just Samsung's problem that they over saturate the images to give it a pop that looks more appealing to people compared to LCD, even if those colours end up being unnatural. It's like how TVs in stores have their saturation turned way up to stand out against the TVs beside them.

I think IPS has more or less peaked in what you can get out of it. I'd wish the R&D was shifted to OLED to sort out those last issues.

AlmightyCushion

_Redzer_ wrote: »

IPS is superior in many ways and I prefer it too, but LCD used to be fairly terrible in PQ as well and it has advanced a lot. OLED will be the same as well because it has much more to offer. It's just Samsung's problem that they over saturate the images to give it a pop that looks more appealing to people compared to LCD, even if those colours end up being unnatural. It's like how TVs in stores have their saturation turned way up to stand out against the TVs beside them.

I think IPS has more or less peaked in what you can get out of it. I'd wish the R&D was shifted to OLED to sort out those last issues.

I prefer IPS displays right now. I think OLED has more potential. I'd take the over saturation of they could make whites look white and get rid of the blueish tint. The black levels and power saving would make up for the over saturation.

ShadowHearth

Aren't those new OLED screens curved due to some issue with technology and not because it's better for viewer?
We went from curved to flat TV's and now going back to curved. Sounds dodgy to me. I don't even know how it can be even good to watch.

StickyIcky

Oled 4k will be the next big leap since hd.

After that 3d without glasses will have to be the next big leap.

After that hologram type tech.

preston johnny

Panthro wrote: »

what happens if the viewer is cross eyed?!!

I know, they'd never look forward to anything

Call Me Jimmy

ahahahah classic

flas

seen one of these downstairs in arnotts,it looks class,and if I had 8 grand just lying around I suppose id buy one,but its just a ridiculous concept,8grand on a tv...

cranefly

its quite simple really, oled tvs are curved because they are so thin you need the curve so they can stand up, you try standing a piece of paper on its edge without a curve and see how you get on.

aN.Droid

cranefly wrote: »

its quite simple really, oled tvs are curved because they are so thin you need the curve so they can stand up, you try standing a piece of paper on its edge without a curve and see how you get on.

ehhh no?

They can make the encasement thick enough to stand.

Also the oled panel is not freestanding. It has a base stand

bnt

My first thought was: this thing's going to present glare problems. If you have any light source on your side of the screen, it seems to me that you will get glare off it at some point.

awec

Billy86 wrote: »

Yeah but it's a very subtle effect more often than not, and this doesn't seem much different - it's not the revolutionary breakthrough that they're trying to make it out to be. If you're an absolute fanatic for your picture quality, then I guess go ahead - but it won't make a significant difference.

You sound like the people who used to claim they couldn't see the difference between SD and HD picture.

Billy86

awec wrote: »

You sound like the people who used to claim they couldn't see the difference between SD and HD picture.

I was just referring to the difference in terms of curvature, not the overall technology. Having looked into this a bit more though, I've got to admit it looks pretty f'ing awesome...