need advice

ohbygod

The employer has addressed the employees that if anyone was late that they would be fired. Can they do this if no one has got a verbal or written warning. Also the employees dont get breaks

d1234

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1977/en/act/pub/0010/

or...

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/unemployment_and_redundancy/dismissal/unfair_dismissal.html

delaval

ohbygod wrote: »

The employer has addressed the employees that if anyone was late that they would be fired. Can they do this if no one has got a verbal or written warning. Also the employees dont get breaks

Are you looking for his blessing for being late?

ohbygod

delaval wrote: »

Are you looking for his blessing for being late?

No i want to see wat rights i have

Sir Arthur Daley

ohbygod wrote: »

The employer has addressed the employees that if anyone was late that they would be fired. Can they do this if no one has got a verbal or written warning. Also the employees dont get breaks

What hours are you working?

ohbygod

WikiHow wrote: »

What hours are you working?

8 hour shifts with no break 5-6 days a week

Sir Arthur Daley

ohbygod wrote: »

8 hour shifts with no break 5-6 days a week

Where in China you working?

ohbygod

WikiHow wrote: »

Where in China you working?

Can i have serious help

Sir Arthur Daley

ohbygod wrote: »

Can i have serious help

Are you seriously telling me you get no breaks?

ohbygod

WikiHow wrote: »

Are you seriously telling me you get no breaks?

I get no break

SK76

The organisation of time act set out what breaks you are entitled to - must get breaks in a shift like that, at least one of which is 30 minutes

Sir Arthur Daley

ohbygod wrote: »

I get no break

What sector you work in?

Junglewoman

What industry are you working in?

ohbygod

Private

Sir Arthur Daley

This cant be true, no breaks.

mfergus

ohbygod wrote: »

Private

You're not providing much information.

How long are you working there?
What kind of work is it?
How many are working there?
Do they get breaks?
Do you have some kind of union or rep body?
Have you asked for a break?
Was there a reason given for denying you a break?

Etc etc

ohbygod

Im with a union i work on my own so i dont get breaks ive been with the company for 10 years. The issue is not about the breaks its about can they fire an employee for being late with no written or verbal warning

Sir Arthur Daley

ohbygod wrote: »

Im with a union i work on my own so i dont get breaks ive been with the company for 10 years. The issue is not about the breaks its about can they fire an employee for being late with no written or verbal warning

Do you not get hungry at all during the day? what about toilet breaks?

Junglewoman

You should have access to a copy of your company's grievance procedures, ask to see it if you weren't given a copy.

mfergus

ohbygod wrote: »

Im with a union i work on my own so i dont get breaks ive been with the company for 10 years. The issue is not about the breaks its about can they fire an employee for being late with no written or verbal warning

Have you bot been getting breaks for the past 10 years?

It seems they could fire you or refuse you your entitlements. They are doing it already.

At least you're making a start now in seeking information. But in this case I'd go to a solicitor....

yosser hughes

Tell your Union rep. You situation is what a Union is for surely?

Mrs OBumble

ohbygod wrote: »

Im with a union i work on my own so i dont get breaks ive been with the company for 10 years. The issue is not about the breaks its about can they fire an employee for being late with no written or verbal warning

People - let's focus on the question that the OP is asking, and let him/her take the breaks issue up with NERA separately. /mod-note


OP, I believe they can, provided they've warned you that being late is considered to be so serious that it's a sacking offense.

Now, there may be a case to answer (is the punishment proportionate to the seriousness) - which a half-decent lawyer could argue either way.

Bandana boy

There is no legal requirement for warnings before a firing.

They will find it difficult to defend a wrongful termination having not given warnings but that will not change the fact of being fired ,will possibly give you grounds for compensation if you took a case.

Eoin

Seriously, there's no point in paying union dues if they're not helping you out with this kind of thing.

Your boss is effectively saying that being late is gross misconduct. Personally, I would consider that to be quite harsh, but I don't know what job you do, and the courts don't give a crap what I think anyway.

If it gets to that stage, you've the right to appeal. You have a right to have a witness present at any disciplinary procedures - again, this is what you're paying your union for.

ohbygod

Eoin wrote: »

Seriously, there's no point in paying union dues if they're not helping you out with this kind of thing.

Your boss is effectively saying that being late is gross misconduct. Personally, I would consider that to be quite harsh, but I don't know what job you do, and the courts don't give a crap what I think anyway.

If it gets to that stage, you've the right to appeal. You have a right to have a witness present at any disciplinary procedures - again, this is what you're paying your union for.

I havent been sacked or had any warning just wanted to no where i stood if something was 2 happened

Eoin

I realise that - I'm telling you what the options are if it does come to that.

If your employer is making threats like that; then the union should be trying to sort this out before it comes to a head.

PS - no text speak please!

ohbygod

Eoin wrote: »

I realise that - I'm telling you what the options are if it does come to that.

If your employer is making threats like that; then the union should be trying to sort this out before it comes to a head.

PS - no text speak please!

Why cant i text speak

Eoin

Because it's not allowed here.