E coller..

snipe49

looking for help with my E coller. It was working fine then one day last year while out with my very hear strong springer wanted to give him reminder it was on 4 which to him is not very strong.But his reaction was as if i had it up full 8. after that nothing from it it all it's a sportdog E coller. anyone know where i could get it fixed.

springer man

if you are using one of them electric collars , you are in the wrong game!

snipe49

yes i was on that dog been as he was so head strong. And if u think there not in use today look at any gundog's working on utube.I would not recommend there use on every dog. just a very head strong one that is all.And i a'm in this: game: 35 year's so i do know a bit.

snipe02

springer man wrote: »

if you are using one of them electric collars , you are in the wrong game!

Hahahaha ,, well said

allan450

snipe49 wrote: »

yes i was on that dog been as he was so head strong. And if u think there not in use today look at any gundog's working on utube.I would not recommend there use on every dog. just a very head strong one that is all.And i a'm in this: game: 35 year's so i do know a bit.

they have been around since the early 80s.most people don't realize seem to think its a new thing.so thats why people are so against them as its a lazy mans way.its a touchy subject to be honest some people are and some people are not.if in the right hand a good tool in the wrong hands you could ruin a dog.thats my 2 cent

snipe49

Very well said allan450 . Never ever should one be used on a timid or aggressive dog.

Glenbulldog

To the op i use one myself totally agree with ya great for a headstrong dog,mine stopped working about a month ago i disconnected the battery pack and reconnected it and it worked fine after that,if youre still having problems after trying this try a computer repair shop or some electronics shop to have a look if its not under warrenty youve nothing to loose if it is under warrenty dont open it try contact the company and send it back best of luck

charlie10

sorry lads but them collars are being used by most if not all top dog handlers in the competition side of things i dont disagree with them when used correctly

snipe49

Glenbulldog wrote: »

To the op i use one myself totally agree with ya great for a headstrong dog,mine stopped working about a month ago i disconnected the battery pack and reconnected it and it worked fine after that,if youre still having problems after trying this try a computer repair shop or some electronics shop to have a look if its not under warrenty youve nothing to loose if it is under warrenty dont open it try contact the company and send it back best of luck

What's with the op. I'm in my prime. :cool:. yes your right about the Ecollers for the head strong dog. I'll ask a pal who's good at that kind of thing to have a look. ta for the help: Kid....;)

snipe49

Glenbulldog wrote: »

To the op i use one myself totally agree with ya great for a headstrong dog,mine stopped working about a month ago i disconnected the battery pack and reconnected it and it worked fine after that,if youre still having problems after trying this try a computer repair shop or some electronics shop to have a look if its not under warrenty youve nothing to loose if it is under warrenty dont open it try contact the company and send it back best of luck

cheers for that.I'll ask a pal of mine who's good at that kind of thing to have a look. And yes the Ecoller is great for a head strong dog. Used only when needed it can mean the differance between a dog out having a great life hunting or stuck in a pen .

EPointer=Birdss

snipe49 wrote: »

cheers for that.I'll ask a pal of mine who's good at that kind of thing to have a look. And yes the Ecoller is great for a head strong dog. Used only when needed it can mean the differance between a dog out having a great life hunting or stuck in a pen .

I agree - There are more dogs moved on daily that are 'heedless' 'uncontollable' & 'untrainable' that could be curtailed by proper use of a collar. Some dogs are born with a wild streak.
It's like anything you need to educate yourself on use of any tool before using it. A lot of people that don't agree or believe in them don't understand or haven't taken the time to understand them. It is not a multi million dollar industry for nothing but hey each to their own. Everyone has their methods & ways of doing things. No one is right or wrong but some are quicker to share their beliefs than others!

fiestaman

Seen one in use first hand and it done the job within 1hr. Used on the dog 3 times in that space of time. Mind you the dog understud the command given but would ignore it coz he thought he new best but he dosent ignore it now & he was in no pain just a small little reminder. Hunting a dog in cover is worse than any dart of a coller, when you turn my dogs ears inside out after a mornings hunting (spaniel) theres defo more pain, from the sight of them. To touch them hed nearly have a heart attack.

Glenbulldog

snipe49 wrote: »

What's with the op. I'm in my prime. :cool:. yes your right about the Ecollers for the head strong dog. I'll ask a pal who's good at that kind of thing to have a look. ta for the help: Kid....;)

Sorry man I meant original poster:)

Glenbulldog

snipe49 wrote: »

cheers for that.I'll ask a pal of mine who's good at that kind of thing to have a look. And yes the Ecoller is great for a head strong dog. Used only when needed it can mean the differance between a dog out having a great life hunting or stuck in a pen .

No bothers best of luck

moloney

http://www.sportdog.com/ they will sort it out for ya give them a ring or email them

deerhunter1

springer man wrote: »

if you are using one of them electric collars , you are in the wrong game!

Why stupid answer without explanation.

Brazzill

springer man wrote: »

if you are using one of them electric collars , you are in the wrong game!

I beg to differ my friend, when used right they can be a great little tool and i'm far from in the wrong game. Some people just don't know how to use them right. Had to use it on my springer bitch just the vibrate if i may add, she understood everything just would push the boundries but now its a pleasure to hunt with her. I would much rather resort to an E-Collar then hammer it into them to be honest, i have seen dogs only doing things outta fear and thats no way either.

sparky63

springer man wrote: »

if you are using one of them electric collars , you are in the wrong game!

Why?

springer man

sparky63 wrote: »

Why?

Electronic collars can increase stress in dogs and reduce their quality of life and Electronic collars can weaken our bonds with our dogs

charlie10

springer man wrote: »

Electronic collars can increase stress in dogs and reduce their quality of life and Electronic collars can weaken our bonds with our dogs

a dog that can't be controlled by conventional methods and bolts across a road .gets dragged up a road by an artic can reduce there quality of life too. and probably increase your level of stress so high that you would probably prefer to be dragged up the road yourself. to be fair I have a collar and seldom use it. As for the breaking of the bond I totally disagree . people who use the let's say hands on approach are in fact weakening there bond with there dog. by basically hammering the **** out of them when the desired command isn't carried out by the dog.when people say electronic collars you would swear there is a cattle fence around his neck with a battery strapped to his back. These collars have advanced and can vibrate and have an audible sound so I don't see a problem. People think you are taking short cuts but the requested command still has to be thought the collar is only a trigger for it

snipe02

The only time you will break the bond is when the dog does not understand the request command then it is being punished for no reason I thinks feck this trust is gone ive spent days on my hands and knees trying to make friends with them this would stand for both instances with or without a collar I can see how they might be usefull for retraining an already trained out of control brute

fiestaman

Well my lad might need to get a dart again, after these days of hunting and getting retrieves hes getting deaf again so hell be getting tightened up now before he gets outa hand. He got a few shots off me today and hes still pulling.

snipe49

well fiastaman u will need the long rope and collar for a while at home to sort him out again, good luck..

snipe02

its the end of the season any dog that's been hunted regular enough is pulling on only natural a few days on the bunnies in spring tighten them up

deerhunter1

springer man wrote: »

Electronic collars can increase stress in dogs and reduce their quality of life and Electronic collars can weaken our bonds with our dogs

Can you show me the research/diagnoses of this or did you pick it out of the sky:rolleyes:

Brianmeath

I use a ecollar on my springer. Never shock him just use the buzzer if he starts to get a bit head strong. He got a dart when I first got it but only on a low setting and that was the only time he did. I am not lazy trained the dog as best i could and he is just very very head strong.
I could have gave up on this dog and gave him away but he is a hunting machine. In my opinion they are a great tool in the right hands.

springer man

deerhunter1 wrote: »

Can you show me the research/diagnoses of this or did you pick it out of the sky:rolleyes:

ya take a read of Joe Irvines book "Training Spaniels" who trials dog for many years and quote "if you are using this tool , you are in the wrong game" so is that enough research for you Deerhunter

snipe49

U still on this springer man. well he just one man. And trial springers are not proper working springers There ruining the real english springer spaniel breed. And i just wrote this so it also must be wright..

snipe02

snipe49 wrote: »

U still on this springer man. well he just one man. And trial springers are not proper working springers There ruining the real english springer spaniel breed. And i just wrote this so it also must be wright..

His book is considered the bible when it comes to training spaniels one man the voice of many god rest him