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Department outlines sanctions for under-performing teachers

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  • #2
    Daqster
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    Opposite problem over the border, as they are dealing with some of the female teachers over performing.


  • #3
    looking_around
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    fcuking finally!

    Back in school anyone taking biology would fail unless they got grinds outside of the school, The teachers were that bad. Even an honours student struggled with them teachers.

    I took applied maths, flying it til out teacher took a year out. The replacement, by jeebus, she was USELESS. She carried a folder with all the equations pre-worked out, and then just copied them onto the board, she couldn't work any out herself. And she was supposed to teach us??? O_O.

    Teachers like that should be fired. \=


  • #4
    Inspector Coptoor
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    While I'm all for this (I'm a teacher myself), the measurement criteria for performance in teaching are going to be very difficult to draw up.


  • #5
    darkpagandeath
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    yawhat! wrote: »
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0103/495683-teachers/

    Maybe they would want to improve the IT courses in Ireland for a start! IT courses in Ireland are quite shocking

    have you tried turning it off and on again ?


  • #6
    looking_around
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    Inspector Coptoor wrote: »
    While I'm all for this (I'm a teacher myself), the measurement criteria for performance in teaching are going to be very difficult to draw up.

    In some countries, it's based on how well/badly the class is doing. compared to the students other subjects.
    Like if an honour student is doing excellently and then struggles in your class. (and more than one student struggling). High chances is because the teacher sucks.


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  • #7
    Inspector Coptoor
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    looking_around wrote: »
    In some countries, it's based on how well/badly the class is doing. compared to the students other subjects.
    Like if an honour student is doing excellently and then struggles in your class. (and more than one student struggling). High chances is because the teacher sucks.

    That could be one way, but there are exceptions.

    What about non-exam religion?

    What about a student doing 6 Honours subjects but say pass Irish & he/she acts up in that class as he/she is well capable of passing the Ordinary paper without listening in class?

    It's not going to be easy


  • #8
    looking_around
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    Inspector Coptoor wrote: »
    That could be one way, but there are exceptions.

    What about non-exam religion?

    What about a student doing 6 Honours subjects but say pass Irish & he/she acts up in that class as he/she is well capable of passing the Ordinary paper without listening in class?

    It's not going to be easy

    If other countries can do it, it can't be that hard.

    Also, who cares how good the teacher is for a non-exam class.
    Most of those religion teachers are nuns or priests anyway, and you just know they aren't going to tell them what to do.


  • #9
    Inspector Coptoor
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    looking_around wrote: »
    If other countries can do it, it can't be that hard.

    Also, who cares how good the teacher is for a non-exam class.
    Most of those religion teachers are nuns or priests anyway, and you just know they aren't going to tell them what to do.


    Your last line there is a complete nonsense.
    They are very few religious left in teaching.
    I teach in a school of 1000 students and not a single teaching religious

    As for who cares about non-exam classes, you can't go down that road as it's inequality among members of the same profession


  • #10
    GalwayGuy2
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    Hmmm, some parts of that worry me. Can't be paid if you are viewed as under performing, and cannot take that decision to the high court?

    Separately, they're grand, together they are a bit strange.


  • #11
    The Red Shoes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 ✭The Red Shoes


    GalwayGuy2 wrote: »
    Hmmm, some parts of that worry me. Can't be paid if you are viewed as under performing, and cannot take that decision to the high court?

    Separately, they're grand, together they are a bit strange.

    Looks like there will be plenty of stages before registration is revoked. If you are consistently under-performing, and haven't made an improvement despite sanctions and warnings, then you shouldn't be paid! The link above says you can take the decision to the high court, is that not the case?


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