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Has anyone experienced 'low cabin pressure'?

  • 02-01-2014 9:47pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,877 ✭✭✭


    So anyone who is familiar with flying will know the general safety shpiel at the beginning of every flight. My question is, has anyone here ever experienced a flight where the cabin pressure was lowered and the oxygen masks were used?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    No but it'd terrify me. (I realise this post is of no use sorry)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    I know that, as always, you're in the very best hands in most cases aviation wise. And I'd be able to cope with just about any other potentially troublesome scenario occuring - but the oxygen thing freaks me out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,877 ✭✭✭purplecow1977


    Yeah tis not something anyone would enjoy I think! I was just wondering with all of the flights etc every day that surely it must have happened someone at some stage. Luckily touch wood I have had very smooth flights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Yeah tis not something anyone would enjoy I think! I was just wondering with all of the flights etc every day that surely it must have happened someone at some stage. Luckily touch wood I have had very smooth flights.

    Even watching this scares me ha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2ctGKpU_B4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Fast forward to 1:29 if you don't have patience :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭Jimmy444


    If the masks ever did come down at altitude and the aircraft did not start a descent fairly promptly I'd be on the call bell asking the cabin crew to have a word with the guys up front - make sure they are still awake . . .

    (See Helios 522 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,414 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    I always wondered, if there was a medical emergency on a flight and the person required extra oxygen, could it be administered via the overhead masks?

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,050 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    flazio wrote: »
    I always wondered, if there was a medical emergency on a flight and the person required extra oxygen, could it be administered via the overhead masks?
    Don't know if there's a "deploy masks" button but aircraft carry portable bottled oxygen anyway and this is what a patient would get if needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Skuxx


    flazio wrote: »
    I always wondered, if there was a medical emergency on a flight and the person required extra oxygen, could it be administered via the overhead masks?

    There should be an oxygen bottle on board anyway AFAIK!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,414 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    That's good to know, you have better control of those cylinders anyway.

    This too shall pass.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    fr336 wrote: »
    Even watching this scares me ha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2ctGKpU_B4

    Easily scared? Looks pretty orderly and relaxed to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Skuxx


    flazio wrote: »
    That's good to know, you have better control of those cylinders anyway.

    The oxygen from the drop down masks isn't from a cylinder of oxygen, its produced by an oxygen generator which is basically a chemical reaction. It certainly wouldn't be medical grade!

    The flight deck oxygen comes from a tank containing pure oxygen!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭View Profile


    murphaph wrote: »
    Don't know if there's a "deploy masks" button but aircraft carry portable bottled oxygen anyway and this is what a patient would get if needed.

    There is a "passenger oxygen mask" deployment switch in the flightdeck and yes, passengers who require oxygen for medical reasons would receive it from a portable oxygen cylinder. There are several of these onboard and cabin crew are trained to administer these to passengers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,561 ✭✭✭andy_g


    Also if the masks fail to deploy the Cabin Crew (CC) are trained to manually deploy them from the cabin itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭Foggy43


    Skuxx wrote: »
    The oxygen from the drop down masks isn't from a cylinder of oxygen, its produced by an oxygen generator which is basically a chemical reaction. It certainly wouldn't be medical grade!

    The flight deck oxygen comes from a tank containing pure oxygen!!

    This is correct on some aircraft. The B737, B757 and B767 as far as I am aware. The B747-400 and B777-200/300 has cylinders for both flight deck and passenger cabin. It is not just one for each. There are several cylinders. In the fore and aft freight hold sidewalls. Passengers with known medical conditions buy their medical oxygen in advance. On the B747-400 their is an adaptor overhead the passengers, where an oxygen mask can be plugged in. BA's B767's have a Theraputic oxgen supply in the form off 2 cylinders that the crew can access and brind to a passenger if required.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 450 ✭✭Fagashlil


    Jimmy444 wrote: »
    If the masks ever did come down at altitude and the aircraft did not start a descent fairly promptly I'd be on the call bell asking the cabin crew to have a word with the guys up front - make sure they are still awake . . .

    (See Helios 522 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522)

    That's why (for us at least) if we don't have the emergeny descent call within a specified time, there's a decompression drill to be completed. Unfortunately, all of our drills have come about because of incidents such as the Helios one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,657 ✭✭✭brandon_flowers




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Boskowski wrote: »
    Easily scared? Looks pretty orderly and relaxed to me.

    Oh that's just it - I'd be scared in such a situation anyway. Mind you I would also be outwardly relaxed - it just ranks very high on my ' the worst scenarios which could kill me on a plane' list :P


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Yes many years ago. 1979/80 IIRC. 737, air France (I think) Flight over France and the plane dropped like a stone(or felt like that) and the masks popped outa the ceiling. Diverted to nearer airport. Never found out what the actual cause was. I was a kid so didn't really get flustered, got more excited than anything, but I do remember some people crying.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw



    That sounds disgraceful to me. To be aware of the 'mildly' leaking door seal and for it to be so bad that it affected cabin temperature and being noisy on takeoff suggests to me that it was quite a leak.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭Munstermissy


    2007 on a Ryanair flight to Stansted, scared the crap out of me and I am the worst flier.. We had an emergency descent and landing into Stansted. Only for the fact I had to fly back the next day I doubt I would have flown again. Was nearly tempted to get the boat home.

    On the flight home the stewardess was going through the emgergency routine and one fella gave a shout out "it's alright love, we all know how to do that " . It lightened the tension as most of the passengers were on the same flight the day before.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 821 ✭✭✭eatmyshorts


    Foggy43 wrote: »
    The B747-400 and B777-200/300 has cylinders for both flight deck and passenger cabin.

    Our 777's all have standard 22 minute overhead chemical generators for pax oxygen and a cylinder for flight deck oxygen.


    There are 20 therapeutic oxygen bottles onboard our 777-300 's for pax medical use.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,657 ✭✭✭brandon_flowers


    mickdw wrote: »
    That sounds disgraceful to me. To be aware of the 'mildly' leaking door seal and for it to be so bad that it affected cabin temperature and being noisy on takeoff suggests to me that it was quite a leak.

    Agree it doesn't sound great but I am usually skeptical of these people who give their "expert" opinion to newspapers. There was an Emirates one a few months back where some women said there was a deafening explosion and she had exaggerated the whole scenario completely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭Foggy43


    mickdw wrote: »
    That sounds disgraceful to me. To be aware of the 'mildly' leaking door seal and for it to be so bad that it affected cabin temperature and being noisy on takeoff suggests to me that it was quite a leak.

    Yes quite a leak. Rumour control at LHR is saying that the door has failed. Must be a good rumour as the aircraft is staying in Baku until the affected door is changed. The removed door is to be examined by SIA and Airbus specialists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭Foggy43


    Our 777's all have standard 22 minute overhead chemical generators for pax oxygen and a cylinder for flight deck oxygen.


    There are 20 therapeutic oxygen bottles onboard our 777-300 's for pax medical use.

    Yes! I for got that 'built to airline requirements' bit. Do you have a supply of Cannular Oxygen Masks on board your B777's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭Jimmy444


    2007 on a Ryanair flight to Stansted, scared the crap out of me and I am the worst flier.. We had an emergency descent and landing into Stansted.

    When the masks came down did everyone do as they were told in the safety briefing and place the masks immediately over their faces, or did they sit there and wait until the cabin crew shouted at them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭Munstermissy


    Jimmy444 wrote: »
    When the masks came down did everyone do as they were told in the safety briefing and place the masks immediately over their faces, or did they sit there and wait until the cabin crew shouted at them?

    Yes, was a very surreal experience, announcement over the intercom regarding the emergency, masks came down immediately and everyone scrambling to put them on. Plane went into steep emergency decent to get down to lower altitude. 2 of the stewardesses at the back were in tears and were crapping it as well (we are all human).

    We were on the early flight and my mate was still half pissed from the night before And was gowling with the mask, I let a roar out to him "do you not watch the discovery channel, keep your f@@king mask on". He sobered up rapidly when we landed when he saw the emergency ground crews escorting us in on the runway, lol..


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