Two gay men beaten to death WARNING DISTURBING

Lou.m

This video has been doing the rounds.

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The website it originated from is in Kenya. But the language is Swahili and is a Nigerian Dialect.

What is disturbing is the fact that attending police officers declining to intervene as the two men are mercilessly set about by a mob each taking turns beating the two men with planks of wood. The sight of an ambulance in the background can be seen. At no point during the beating are the men offered assistance or recourse to ambulance workers.

Police are seen looking on.

WARNING YOU WILL SEE EXTREME VIOLENCE.

This video shows two men being brutally murdered, and you will see one man’s head split open and his brains begin to pour out of his skull.

Youtube has declined to post the video given its horrific nature. The original video went on to be posted on 12/9/ 2013.

Due to the extreme nature of this we need to be absolutely certain of the vents accuracy.

In line with this

the video shows police and religious leaders as the scene as the mob shouts “homo” and “abnormal”, although the shouting may have been edited in.

Gay Star News reports that from the Swahili language used, it appears the video was filmed in Nigeria. Commentators go on to tell that in fact the language spoken is a Nigerian dialect of Yoruba.

It says mob shouts, in words that could have been added later or recorded live, include Homo!’ and ‘Abnormal!’

It’s not clear whether the video is recent and Gay Star News has contacted several activists in Nigeria and Africa who have been unable to verify the incident portrayed in the video.

Russia has taken a stop back but it must be said that much of Africa while never having been progressive is barbaric.

If anyone has any more info on this I would be grateful for it.

Let's not forget that the two individuals in the video are human beings please. Regardless of the issue globally it is their personhood which was assaulted and murdered. Whilst it is happening to many in this video it happened to them.

They were two men maintaining a homosexual relationship.

what the hell!

Oh my god those poor men.

endacl

While I understand why you posted the link OP, I question whether you should have posted it. It is sickening, and these atrocities (and worse) happen around the world every day. We understand that it happens. We can witness the fact of the event without witnessing the event itself. Who do you think 'needs' to see it, and be left with the effect of having seen it. This kind of content is why I don't venture on to Facebook any more. It doesn't change minds. It does however leave an imprint on the psyche of any right thinking and compassionate human being who watches it. Do you really want to do that?

Outrage porn.

Lou.m

endacl wrote: »

While I understand why you posted the link OP, I question whether you should have posted it. It is sickening, and these atrocities (and worse) happen around the world every day. We understand that it happens. We can witness the fact of the event without witnessing the event itself. Who do you think 'needs' to see it, and be left with the effect of having seen it. This kind of content is why I don't venture on to Facebook any more. It doesn't change minds. It does however leave an imprint on the psyche of any right thinking and compassionate human being who watches it. Do you really want to do that?

Outrage porn.

I do want that. An imprint is a call to action.

I understand your point of view however completely. I want people to know that I hesitated to post it for 24 hrs.

The term 'porn' suggests I posted it to titillate. That is not the case.

I have seen comments of people whose thoughts it has challenged.

Regardless I would not censor a story or images of a story based on whether people can stomach it.

In our culture this is extreme. However in other cultures violence is a daily event.
I would like to find out the identities of the men and what actually happened.

I respect your point of view.

Mr Pseudonym

endacl wrote: »

While I understand why you posted the link OP, I question whether you should have posted it. It is sickening, and these atrocities (and worse) happen around the world every day. We understand that it happens. We can witness the fact of the event without witnessing the event itself. Who do you think 'needs' to see it, and be left with the effect of having seen it. This kind of content is why I don't venture on to Facebook any more. It doesn't change minds. It does however leave an imprint on the psyche of any right thinking and compassionate human being who watches it. Do you really want to do that?

Outrage porn.

Despite not being squeamish, I've decided not to watch it. However, the description given has had an effect on me, so I defend the OP's right and justification for posting it, even if I personally wouldn't have.

Not especially relevant, but I'd like to get it off my chest: I attended an international school, and, through one of my friends, became friendly with several Nigerians. They were liberal in all instances except for one: acceptance of homosexuality. One told of how he had witnessed a gay person being beaten to death outside a Lagos bar - a story which elicited much laughter.

What I find utterly repugnant about the video (which I haven't watched) is not that it is violence targeted against gays, but the barbaric nature of the violence. I know that, in certain circumstance, I could be motivated to murder (e.g. drunk, loved one brutally murdered, gun convenient, etc) But, that is a level of barbarism to which I could never sink.

*I was close to not posting the above. I've decided to do so, however, despite its not being especially insightful or coherent.

Lou.m

Mr Pseudonym wrote: »

Despite not being squeamish, I've decided not to watch it. However, the description given has had an effect on me, so I defend the OP's right and justification for posting it, even if I personally wouldn't have.

Not especially relevant, but I'd like to get it off my chest: I attended an international school, and, through one of my friends, became friendly with several Nigerians. They were liberal in all instances except for one: acceptance of homosexuality. One told of how he had witnessed a gay person being beaten to death outside a Lagos bar - a story which elicited much laughter.

What I find utterly repugnant about the video (which I haven't watched) is not that it is violence targeted against gays, but the barbaric nature of the violence. I know that, in certain circumstance, I could be motivated to murder (e.g. drunk, loved one brutally murdered, gun convenient, etc) But, that is a level of barbarism to which I could never sink.

*I was close to not posting the above. I've decided to do so, however, despite its not being especially insightful or coherent.

Thank you for your contribution.

I would hasten to say I don't mean to target one culture as being more capable of this.

Certain societies find themselves in a helpless situation regarding lawlessness due to economics.

It must also be said many states do not have the revenue to fund state education and it has been left to religious groups in many places. That alongside targeted campaigns and shills to raise money have warped things.

It must be said that other minorities face challenges, albinos in particular are another group.

Information taught regarding gay people is often folk stories and bizarre misinformation.

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/nigeria-jail-all-gays-bill-faces-delays-it-becomes-law010114

What with Russia on the radar it seemed important to highlight the jail all the gays bill in Nigeria.

wonderfulname

Mod Note:

Link removed from OP, anyone over the age of 13 can create an account on boards.ie, it is worth considering your audience before seeking to imprint such content on their collective psyche.

Edit:
To expand on the above note;
The Boards.ie Terms Of Use all users agree to abide by include an expectation to post responsibly, most relevantly through not posting material "that contains violence, or offensive subject matter or contains a link to an adult website"

Lou.m

wonderfulname wrote: »

Mod Note:

Link removed from OP, anyone over the age of 13 can create an account on boards.ie, it is worth considering your audience before seeking to imprint such content on their collective psyche.

Understood. I will in future thank you.

I apologize.

Lou.m

Just to say I would like to keep the story itself here though without the clip if that is ok.

Aard

Is anybody even shocked anymore that this type of thing happens in Africa?

12gauge dave

Seen this clip recentley.

I didnt actually know this was happening in the world and was greatly shocked and saddened.

The most shocking things are how its so public and infront of police and they just let it happen.
I take no one was arrested or punished for this?
What countries is this common practice in exactly?

suicide_circus

12gauge dave wrote: »

What countries is this common practice in exactly?

Backward dark age ****holes

Shakti

Has any major news source carried this?
I can't find any if there is, the silence is very disturbing,

The Irish DFA has a non-essential travel warning to Nigeria

Social unrest
Although there are growing trade links between Ireland and Nigeria and Irish people continue to live peacefully in all parts of the country, the Embassy of Ireland in Nigeria currently advises Irish citizens against all non-essential travel to Nigeria.

https://www.dfa.ie/travel/travel-advice/a-z-list-of-countries/nigeria/

lots of irish business and education links with Nigeria,