First time new PC build Budget €500

Garfin

Hi all, looking to upgrade from 6 year old Dell laptop and a desktop iQon from tesco circa 2004/05. Have never built a PC before but would prefer to give it a go and hopefully have a better machine, than buy off the shelf. The PC will be for college work researching, assignments etc, web browsing, storing family photos video etc. The hard drive on the iqon got corrupted and became unusable but it does have a cd/dvd drive that may still work. The old case is 14.25 inches H, 7.5 inches W, 16 inches D, don't know if it can be used or any of the internals.

1. What is your budget? €500

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? Internet, college research assignments etc, family photos video,

3. Do you need a copy of Windows? Yes

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? DVD Drive/Case possibly

5. Do you need a monitor? Yes

5a. If yes, what size do you need. 22-24 if possible

5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future? [1920x1080/1440x900/etc.] [Yes/No]

6. Do you need any of these peripherals? Wireless Card,Card Reader

7. Are you willing to try overclocking? No

8. How can you pay? Credit card

9. When are you purchasing? Before end of Jan

10. If you need help building it, where are you based? probably, South Roscommon, between Ballinasloe and Athlone

I would appreciate any feedback, thanks G

Garfin

Bump, Any suggestions for this build?

marco_polo

You could probably reuse the case but I am throwing one in anyway as you might as well upgrade to external USB3.0 while you are at it.

This will never make a gaming rig but if you did want the option in the future I'd add another €10-15 for a 400-450W PSU instead.

Item|Price
Windows 8.1 64Bit Eng Intl (SB-Version) DVD|€83.85
ASUS VS228NE|€99.00
Cooler Master Force 500 Midi-Tower - schwarz, ohne Netzteil|€36.15
Corsair VS Serie VS350, Non-Modular, 80+|€29.36
MSI H81M-P33, mATX, Sockel 1150|€40.73
Intel Pentium G3420 Box, LGA1150|€55.88
2 x 4GB G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9-9-9-24|€64.70
WD Blue 1TB 6Gb's|€51.27
Akasa AK-ICR-07 Interner 6-Port Card Reader 8,89cm (3,5") , schwarz|€9.99
LogiLink Wireless LAN 300 Mbps PCI Karte 802.11n 2T2R|€13.53
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€503.45

Incidentially if you can spare another €20 I'd go for an LG IPS monitor instead of the ASUS

Garfin

Marco thanks for that, Would be happier with the LG for the extra, will the old DVD drive be compatible with this set up? Thanks again G

yabadabado

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056907965

use this trick .It will knock a few quid off the cost ,could use it to add the more powerful PSU or LG monitor.

marco_polo

Garfin wrote: »

Marco thanks for that, Would be happier with the LG for the extra, will the old DVD drive be compatible with this set up? Thanks again G

Meant to say you'd need to check if it is SATA or IDE, you can get an adapter if its is IDE, but it'd nearly be as cheap to get a new SATA drive as they are only about €15 anyway

yabadabado

Thats a nice build Marco,I am going to build something similar to the one you posted but don't need window's or a monitor.Will add a SSD and a different processor.

Slksht

yabadabado wrote: »

Thats a nice build Marco,I am going to build something similar to the one you posted but don't need window's or a monitor.Will add a SSD and a different processor.

What are you planning to use it for man?

yabadabado

Slksht wrote: »

What are you planning to use it for man?

not for me but it will be used similar to OP's.No gaming.

Garfin

Thanks for the quick replys Yaba & Marco, will do the search for the componenents and post up before I order, will order the SATA and thanks for tip on the discount it all helps!

Garfin

yabadabado wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056907965

use this trick .It will knock a few quid off the cost ,could use it to add the more powerful PSU or LG monitor.

Does this still work have tried a few different items don't see hardwareversand listed.

marco_polo

Garfin wrote: »

Does this still work have tried a few different items don't see hardwareversand listed.

I just tried the CPU / mobo and HDD and could see them (lots of scrolling required for some of them though). Only 1-2 euro off most items but every little helps.

yabadabado

Garfin wrote: »

Does this still work have tried a few different items don't see hardwareversand listed.

still works and will save you a few quid.Might not be major savings but for the sake of a few minutes scrolling well worth it.

I saved around €15 on a €450 build a few months ago so I guess you would get similar.

Garfin

Thanks see that now,

LG Flatron 22EA53VQ-P ready for dispatch from 2014-01-03. Is this Jan 3rd?
Cooler Master Force 500 Midi-Tower - schwarz, ohne Netzteil. Ready for dispatch from 2014-01-10

If this is Jan should be ok

Any alternative for this one?

MSI H81M-P33, mATX, Sockel 1150, this is showing delivery date unknown

marco_polo

Garfin wrote: »

Thanks see that now,

LG Flatron 22EA53VQ-P ready for dispatch from 2014-01-03. Is this Jan 3rd?
Cooler Master Force 500 Midi-Tower - schwarz, ohne Netzteil. Ready for dispatch from 2014-01-10

If this is Jan should be ok

Any alternative for this one?

MSI H81M-P33, mATX, Sockel 1150, this is showing delivery date unknown

They should be january alright, so the monitor should be in tommorrow.

Try this for the board instead.

http://www.hardwareversand.de/DDR3/102103/MSI+H81M-E33%2C+mATX%2C+Sockel+1150.article

Possible USB3 case alternatives in stock should you wish to order before the 10th

http://www.hardwareversand.de/Midi/107464/Zalman+Z3+Midi-Tower+-+schwarz%2C+ohne+Netzteil.article

http://www.hardwareversand.de/Midi/50990/Thermaltake+V3+BlacX+Edition+++HDD+Docking+Station%2C+ohne+Netzteil.article

Garfin

Put the list through the discount site and added the drive and swapped the case, marco really appreciate all your time and help! Any last thoughts before I pull the trigger, thanks G

http://www.hardwareversand.de/basket.jsp

marco_polo

I won't be able to see the contents of your basket, can you use the basket script or grab a screenshot.

Garfin

Is this worth it?
Order Defective-pixel test
You can let us carry your TFT/LED-articles in your basket through a Defective-pixel test easily. Therefor you should know, that there are specific classes for TFT-Displays (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defective_pixel). Within these test, we detect all defective pixel on your ordered TFT-Item in brand new condition and prevent you from disappointments and returns.

For that service w'll bill you overall 20,00 € for each TFT/LED-article in your basket

Item|Price
Total build cost: €478.54 + €30 shipping
Windows 8.1 64Bit Eng Intl (SB-Version) DVD|€82.48
LG Flatron 22EA53VQ-P|€115.99
Corsair VS Serie VS350, Non-Modular, 80+|€29.36
Intel Pentium G3420 Box, LGA1150|€53.74
4GB G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9-9-9-24|€31.73
WD Blue 1TB 6Gb's|€49.26
Akasa AK-ICR-07 Interner 6-Port Card Reader 8,89cm (3,5") , schwarz|€9.89
LogiLink Wireless LAN 300 Mbps PCI Karte 802.11n 2T2R|€12.89
LG GH24NS bare schwarz|€15.47
MSI H81M-E33, mATX, Sockel 1150|€41.33
Zalman Z3 Midi-Tower - schwarz, ohne Netzteil|€36.40

Garfin

This will never make a gaming rig but if you did want the option in the future I'd add another €10-15 for a 400-450W PSU instead.
Marco what had you in mind here?

marco_polo

Build looks good, I don't think I would bother myself with the pixel test as it seems a bit expensive relative to the risk but up to yourself really

Edit : on phone now so can't link but search for xfx core 450w on hwvs and that would be a fine psu

Garfin

Thanks Marco, what PSU 400-450W do you think, I'm at 486 euro with the discounts applied all in at the moment. G

Garfin

Thanks agin will do, G

Garfin

Do power cables need to be ordered or are they included?

Slksht

Garfin wrote: »

Do power cables need to be ordered or are they included?

Included but they may require an adapter

Slksht

Garfin wrote: »

Do power cables need to be ordered or are they included?

Included but they may require an adapter

Slksht

Garfin wrote: »

Do power cables need to be ordered or are they included?

Included but they may require an adapter

Garfin

Thanks Slksht

yabadabado

Thought I would ask here rather than start a new thread.I am going to help build a similar PC to OP's and am wondering is it worth adding a SSD?
Also we don't need a monitor or windows so can get a higher spec processor ,any recommendations lads?Dont wanna go over €500 btw

marco_polo

yabadabado wrote: »

Thought I would ask here rather than start a new thread.I am going to help build a similar PC to OP's and am wondering is it worth adding a SSD?
Also we don't need a monitor or windows so can get a higher spec processor ,any recommendations lads?Dont wanna go over €500 btw

No gaming? You could just go with this, it should last a long time as a general purpose home PC. SSD is definately worth it IMO. As above throw in the XFX PSU if you would like to throw in a GPU down the road.


Item|Price
Corsair VS Serie VS350, Non-Modular, 80+|€29.36
WD Blue 1TB 6Gb's|€51.27
Intel Core i5-4440 Box, LGA1150|€157.49
Samsung SSD 840 EVO Basic 120GB SATA 6Gb/s|€82.99
MSI H81M-E33, mATX, Sockel 1150|€41.88
Zalman Z3 Midi-Tower - schwarz, ohne Netzteil|€38.47
2 x 4GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1333 CL9|€71.26
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€491.71

yabadabado

marco_polo wrote: »

No gaming? You could just go with this, it should last a long time as a general purpose home PC. SSD is definately worth it IMO. As above throw in the XFX PSU if you would like to throw in a GPU down the road.


Item|Price
Corsair VS Serie VS350, Non-Modular, 80+|€29.36
WD Blue 1TB 6Gb's|€51.27
Intel Core i5-4440 Box, LGA1150|€157.49
Samsung SSD 840 EVO Basic 120GB SATA 6Gb/s|€82.99
MSI H81M-E33, mATX, Sockel 1150|€41.88
Zalman Z3 Midi-Tower - schwarz, ohne Netzteil|€38.47
2 x 4GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1333 CL9|€71.26
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€491.71

Cheers Marco,that is a near identical to the build I have in the basket at the moment.Went with a different case and the XFM psu.
cant get my script to work

yabadabado

OK lads will ye have a look at this for me.The prices below include any savings made going through the discount store,took a bit of time switching between the different websites but saved a bit .
Is that case worth getting or was I better off going for one at €15-20 less.Anything else need changing/swapping?

Item|Price
Corsair Carbide Series 200R, ATX, ohne Netzteil|€52.89
Intel Core i5-4440 Box, LGA1150|€153.27
MSI H81M-P33 V2, mATX, Sockel 1150|€44.48
XFX PRO450W Core Edition Full Wired Power Supply|€40.81
WD Blue 1TB 6Gb's|€49.32
Samsung SSD 840 EVO Basic 120GB SATA 6Gb/s|€83.31
2 x 4GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1333 CL9|€68.32
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€511.39

yabadabado

Found a discount code as well €10 off for new customers(on phone will post it up in the morning)
Is Bank Transfer still the best way to pay ?

marco_polo

yabadabado wrote: »

Found a discount code as well €10 off for new customers(on phone will post it up in the morning)
Is Bank Transfer still the best way to pay ?

I think it is the only way from Ireland, not sure Paypal is possible from here.

yabadabado

marco_polo wrote: »

I think it is the only way from Ireland, not sure Paypal is possible from here.

paypal used to be possible but had 3% charge iirc.

BTW what do you think of the build I posted up ?

marco_polo

yabadabado wrote: »

paypal used to be possible but had 3% charge iirc.

BTW what do you think of the build I posted up ?

I though there was a post a few week ago where somebody said they wouldn't accept it from Ireland, I could be wrong or misremembering though. Build looks absolutely fine a slightly better case likle the 200r is much nicer to work with so I wouldn't be worry about spending a extra few quid there if you can.

yabadabado

marco_polo wrote: »

I though there was a post a few week ago where somebody said they wouldn't accept it from Ireland, I could be wrong or misremembering though. Build looks absolutely fine a slightly better case likle the 200r is much nicer to work with so I wouldn't be worry about spending a extra few quid there if you can.

Could have been mentioned alright,I don't mind paying by transfer anyways.

Cheers for the help/advice really appreciate it.Be ordering that set up in the morning.
Building it myself ,did a few with a mate before but am looking forward to doing it solo this time.:D

Garfin

The monitor LG Flatron 22EA53VQ-P is out of stock till next week it is costing €116.00 with the discount is it worth holding on for or are there other monitors of comparable spec and quality for the money?

bmm

How long before 8gb of RAM is not enough. 3 years maybe. i remember when 8mb of RAM was loads (circa. 1992) . Go for 16gb, and save yourself throwing out the 2 x 4gbs in a few years .

Slksht

bmm wrote: »

How long before 8gb of RAM is not enough. 3 years maybe. i remember when 8mb of RAM was loads (circa. 1992) . Go for 16gb, and save yourself throwing out the 2 x 4gbs in a few years .

No, wait until it's not enough then buy two 8gbs and sell the two 4s. RAM is expensive enough atm and the price will only fall. Future proofing pcs is not cost effective.

yabadabado

PC arrived to day(see post 31) and i have but it together and all is seems to be working fine except USB on front of case dont seem to be working,any ideas ?

I installed Windows 7 and inserted the CD for the motherboard and installed the drivers I think I need .

How should I set up the SSD ?

Any thing else I should do/need to install?

EoinHef

yabadabado wrote: »

PC arrived to day(see post 31) and i have but it together and all is seems to be working fine except USB on front of case dont seem to be working,any ideas ?

I installed Windows 7 and inserted the CD for the motherboard and installed the drivers I think I need .

How should I set up the SSD ?

Any thing else I should do/need to install?

One or two things spring to mind, there is a cable coming from the front usb ports that has to connected to the motherboard, is that connected?

Also did you download and install the usb drivers for the motherboard?

Some boards support usb 2.0 from the off but not usb 3.0, some need drivers for it

yabadabado

EoinHef wrote: »

One or two things spring to mind, there is a cable coming from the front usb ports that has to connected to the motherboard, is that connected?

Also did you download and install the usb drivers for the motherboard?

Some boards support usb 2.0 from the off but not usb 3.0, some need drivers for it

Everything seems to be connected and I have installed the drivers.

Will take anither look in the morning.

Garfin

Yaba any joy on the USB issue?, I am still waiting on mine screen was backordered, dispatched today had to order another stick of ram only ordered one the first time, couldn't add to the existing order so had to pay another 12 euro for shipping hope it is worth it. Will update when I get the bits in and start building.

yabadabado

Garfin wrote: »

Yaba any joy on the USB issue?, I am still waiting on mine screen was backordered, dispatched today had to order another stick of ram only ordered one the first time, couldn't add to the existing order so had to pay another 12 euro for shipping hope it is worth it. Will update when I get the bits in and start building.

Yeah I got it sorted out ,I thought I had downloaded all the drivers but I re did them and problem solved.Very happy with the build.

Unless you got a very good price on the ram would it not be handier to cancel the order and buy the ram from somewhere with cheaper postage?

Garfin

Glad to hear you got it sorted, all incl shipping is 45 euro for 4GB G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9-9-9-24, not sure how that compares elsewhere I did look on Amazon.co.UK for that specific one and couldn't find it. Do they have to be identical to be compatible?

Garfin

Hi all this build is coming up on 5 years old now, looking for some suggestions to improve performance without spending much, best bang for the buck upgrades. I would like to add Bluetooth if that's possible without changing the board, all feedback welcome, G.



Item|Price
Total build cost: €478.54 + €30 shipping
Windows 8.1 64Bit Eng Intl (SB-Version) DVD|€82.48
LG Flatron 22EA53VQ-P|€115.99
Corsair VS Serie VS350, Non-Modular, 80+|€29.36
Intel Pentium G3420 Box, LGA1150|€53.74
4GB G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9-9-9-24|€31.73
WD Blue 1TB 6Gb's|€49.26
Akasa AK-ICR-07 Interner 6-Port Card Reader 8,89cm (3,5") , schwarz|€9.89
LogiLink Wireless LAN 300 Mbps PCI Karte 802.11n 2T2R|€12.89
LG GH24NS bare schwarz|€15.47
MSI H81M-E33, mATX, Sockel 1150|€41.33
Zalman Z3 Midi-Tower - schwarz, ohne Netzteil|€36.40
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Slksht

Garfin wrote: »

Hi all this build is coming up on 5 years old now, looking for some suggestions to improve performance without spending much, best bang for the buck upgrades. I would like to add Bluetooth if that's possible without changing the board, all feedback welcome, G.

Bluetooth is simple. Amazon have lots of USB Bluetooth adapters. They're about a tenner. Make sure it's over v4.0 and Class 2 should suffice as it's just in your home.

You need to list your current gear for people to suggest upgrades.

TerrorFirmer

Throw in a 2nd hand i5-4440 or similar for €60-70, add another cheap 4GB of ram, and throw in a 250GB SSD and you'll be flying.

If you're just web browsing and using office, then for now literally just an SSD will make a huge difference, 4GB of ram is still pretty much OK and the CPU is still good for those tasks.

Garfin

Slksht wrote: »

Bluetooth is simple. Amazon have lots of USB Bluetooth adapters. They're about a tenner. Make sure it's over v4.0 and Class 2 should suffice as it's just in your home.

You need to list your current gear for people to suggest upgrades.

Item|Price
Total build cost: €478.54 + €30 shipping
Windows 8.1 64Bit Eng Intl (SB-Version) DVD|€82.48
LG Flatron 22EA53VQ-P|€115.99
Corsair VS Serie VS350, Non-Modular, 80+|€29.36
Intel Pentium G3420 Box, LGA1150|€53.74
4GB G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9-9-9-24|€31.73
WD Blue 1TB 6Gb's|€49.26
Akasa AK-ICR-07 Interner 6-Port Card Reader 8,89cm (3,5") , schwarz|€9.89
LogiLink Wireless LAN 300 Mbps PCI Karte 802.11n 2T2R|€12.89
LG GH24NS bare schwarz|€15.47
MSI H81M-E33, mATX, Sockel 1150|€41.33
Zalman Z3 Midi-Tower - schwarz, ohne Netzteil|€36.40
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