Speeding fine

tsloa1980

68mph in a 60mph zone which I thought it was a 70mph. Anyway, went to pay the fine recently at the post office which was over due but the P.O clerk said that that payment cannot be accepted.
As it says on the receipt..."Payment cannot be accepted because:

National Driver File record not found

Is this a computer glitch or somehow the Garda have taken sympathy and wiped it. I am tempted to leave this run it's course and see if I can get away with it. Has this happened to anyone

da_hambo

tsloa1980 wrote: »

68mph in a 60mph zone which I thought it was a 70mph. Anyway, went to pay the fine recently at the post office which was over due but the P.O clerk said that that payment cannot be accepted.
As it says on the receipt..."Payment cannot be accepted because:

National Driver File record not found

Is this a computer glitch or somehow the Garda have taken sympathy and wiped it. I am tempted to leave this run it's course and see if I can get away with it. Has this happened to anyone

Did you write in your driver licence number wrong?

seamus

I'd be pretty sure that fine has expired considering that we haven't used mph in nearly nine years.

In all seriousness, you have the fine in your hand, therefore they know where to find you. You won't get out of paying the fine due to a clerical error.

Losty Dublin

There is a time limit during which you may pay a fixed penalty notice such as a speeding ticket. If you couldn't make a payment at the PO then you need to contact the contact number on the letter ASAP and clarify what the issue is. Let this slip aside and this will probably end up as a day in court if it's followed through.

tsloa1980

The unit of speed was in kmph which was probably a misprint so just assumed it was in kph but I always convert to mph. The shame in all of this is that I'm a slow careful driver..RATS!!

I Did call them, the number on the receipt, they told me to go back down again and give the license number - 4d (beside this) It seems they were not used to the new license cards at the P.O. They were in difficulty with this but eventually it was processed.

Fred Swanson

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DuckSlice

where would you find a 70mph limit in Ireland or 112kmh. where were you driving that you thought that was the limit?

Wheelnut

etxp wrote: »

where would you find a 70mph limit in Ireland or 112kmh. where were you driving that you thought that was the limit?

I think the direct answer to your question could be that he was on a dual carriageway which he thought was a motorway where the limit was 120km/hr but you still have a point. 68MPH is 109.7km/hr and I would have thought that is (just) inside the margin of error if the speed limit is 100km/hr.

pixie321

I was doing about 125km on the motorway today and really think I was caught by a lovely unmarked Garda car with a speed gun. Do I automaticaly get penalty points as well as a fine or what are my chances of just getting a fine?

micks_address

pixie321 wrote: »

I was doing about 125km on the motorway today and really think I was caught by a lovely unmarked Garda car with a speed gun. Do I automaticaly get penalty points as well as a fine or what are my chances of just getting a fine?

if the speed limit was 120 then i doubt they would fine you at 125km... i think i was caught coming back to dublin on monday... was doing about 110 on the dual carraigeway at rooskey when i spotted what i think was a guard standing on the overpass looking down with a speed camera.. i guess time will tell..

Paulw

pixie321 wrote: »

I was doing about 125km on the motorway today and really think I was caught by a lovely unmarked Garda car with a speed gun. Do I automaticaly get penalty points as well as a fine or what are my chances of just getting a fine?

If you were caught, then it's fine plus points. There is no choice in the matter.

You should get a letter in the post in 2-3 weeks, but it can be up to 6 months.

Wheelnut

pixie321 wrote: »

I was doing about 125km on the motorway today and really think I was caught ...

I doubt if you were caught. Assuming you have NOT changed the gearing on your car by fitting different size wheels or tyres, your speedometer is likely to be reading higher than your real speed. You can verify this by setting your satnav to give a speed readout and comparing it to your speedometer.

pixie321

oh fingers crossed!
Thank you for all the replies

Allknowing

You have to be stopped if caught by hand held speed detector to be prosecuted. If you were not stopped it was a speed van that nabbed you.

Shelflife

tsloa1980 wrote: »

The unit of speed was in kmph which was probably a misprint so just assumed it was in kph but I always convert to mph. The shame in all of this is that I'm a slow careful driver..RATS!!

I Did call them, the number on the receipt, they told me to go back down again and give the license number - 4d (beside this) It seems they were not used to the new license cards at the P.O. They were in difficulty with this but eventually it was processed.

Its up to you to fill out the form properly not the post office.

Losty Dublin

Allknowing wrote: »

You have to be stopped if caught by hand held speed detector to be prosecuted. If you were not stopped it was a speed van that nabbed you.

Are you sure about this? I've seen many a garda yielding speed guns and facing away from traffic; I don't think they are doing that for fun.

Allknowing

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Are you sure about this? I've seen many a garda yielding speed guns and facing away from traffic; I don't think they are doing that for fun.

Positive.

Losty Dublin

Allknowing wrote: »

Positive.

May I be so bold as to ask on what basis you can attest to this?

TheNog

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Are you sure about this? I've seen many a garda yielding speed guns and facing away from traffic; I don't think they are doing that for fun.

The speed of a vehicle can be detected even when that vehicle is travelling away from the Garda

Allknowing

Losty Dublin wrote: »

May I be so bold as to ask on what basis you can attest to this?

Almost 20 years in the job.

Fred Swanson

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Losty Dublin

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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That's what I was thinking, Fred.

The point Allknowing makes about Gardaí stopping you if they use hand held detectors is fine except I have seen them use cameras in both directions (Bit pointless to chase a driver when they are well past you.) plus I've seen them used whereby they do not stop motorists. I remain open to correction here but it's contrary to what I have seen over the years.

Allknowing

Losty Dublin wrote: »

That's what I was thinking, Fred.

The point Allknowing makes about Gardaí stopping you if they use hand held detectors is fine except I have seen them use cameras in both directions (Bit pointless to chase a driver when they are well past you.) plus I've seen them used whereby they do not stop motorists. I remain open to correction here but it's contrary to what I have seen over the years.

What cameras are you referring to?

Fred Swanson

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Zambia

There is a difference between a speed camera and a speed detector

Fred Swanson

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tsloa1980

On the dual carriageway the 2nd half of it is classed as a motorway and the first is 60 mph which obv'ly is on my way into work. When coming home from work you take the returning route and the sign says 120 kph on the roundabout before entering the carriageway.

tsloa1980

I did every thing right and followed the instructions on the form. It was the P.O who, remember too that I'm from the countryside so this is probably a rare thing for the P.O, who processed the ticket but needed the licence number to process it was their fault there was 3 of them trying to figure it out.

Shelflife

tsloa1980 wrote: »

I did every thing right and followed the instructions on the form. It was the P.O who, remember too that I'm from the countryside so this is probably a rare thing for the P.O, who processed the ticket but needed the licence number to process it was their fault there was 3 of them trying to figure it out.

Weird, if the form is filled out correctly it's just a matter of inputting the data.

tsloa1980

Not even just the form they were taking the number from the licence card I had a receipt to acknowledge the the rejection.