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Ryanair Boarding from 01/02/2014

  • 28-12-2013 12:44pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭


    Q1.
    Anyone like to hazard a guess as to how boarding will be done when the allocated seating system starts. Will it be just the same as now, with two queues, one for Priority Boarding/Reserved Seating and Other.

    Under the new scheme of allocated seating I can see why people will reserve seats but why would anyone pay €7 extra each way for Priority Boarding if their seats are already reserved or allocated. The rest of us, instead of standing in the Other Queue for 30 minutes, can remain seated until boarding commences.

    Q2
    I've often wondered about this anyway. How is the seat allocation actually done? Does someone sitting at a desk allocate for each flight or is there an auto system?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭PinOnTheRight


    I'm not sure how boarding will play out. easyJet still have their speedy boarding but as far as I know it is no longer sold separately as a product, only those who are Plus cardholders can avail of it. As such, their boarding logic is for Plus card holders, special assistance and families with young children, followed by everyone else. You will be surprised though at how many still stand and queue at the gate as soon as it's announced despite it being allocated seating. The only reason I can think of is people are all to aware of the black magic of cabin baggage these days so want to get on and stowe theirs before the lockers fill up.


    The seat allocation will likely to be done automatically by an algorithm with some logic built in to adhere to Ryanair's 2 seating rules when the pax numbers are above or below 150, which is currently done by blocking off the forward/aft rows with tray tables. I'd expect it'll allocate you a seat, and leave the exit rows until the very end to try and increase the chances of someone paying extra for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,387 ✭✭✭EKRIUQ


    Could be just like they do it now, if you pick your seat (emergency exit) you automatically get priority boarding but before priority are boarded you are called to the front. I can see it the same when the new system comes in

    Reserved seat --> Charged seat fee and priority fee, boarded first

    Priority boarding --> Next to board and can sit any where charged priority boarding.

    Everyone else --> Boarded last

    Either way seeing as it's Ryanair, you can be sure there not going to loose out on any profit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭Evan DietrichSmith


    dubdaymo wrote: »
    Q1.
    Anyone like to hazard a guess as to how boarding will be done when the allocated seating system starts. Will it be just the same as now, with two queues, one for Priority Boarding/Reserved Seating and Other.

    Under the new scheme of allocated seating I can see why people will reserve seats but why would anyone pay €7 extra each way for Priority Boarding if their seats are already reserved or allocated. The rest of us, instead of standing in the Other Queue for 30 minutes, can remain seated until boarding commences.

    Q2
    I've often wondered about this anyway. How is the seat allocation actually done? Does someone sitting at a desk allocate for each flight or is there an auto system?

    Auto system which would present a menu to the check in agent who would have an input depending on the numbers in the party travelling.

    Usually tied into the weight and balance output to produce an accurate reflection of the actual passenger seating on any given flight and accordingly compute the CofG details,trim wheel settings and other relevant control surface settings.


    Probably:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Jhcx


    So does this mean i wont get to choose my seat at the back of the aircraft anymore?
    will i be stuck up the front?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,216 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    Jhcx wrote: »
    So does this mean i wont get to choose my seat at the back of the aircraft anymore?
    will i be stuck up the front?
    If you want a guaranteed seat at the back you will have to pay! Or you could ask at check in to be assigned a seat at the rear!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Jhcx


    Locker10a wrote: »
    If you want a guaranteed seat at the back you will have to pay! Or you could ask at check in to be assigned a seat at the rear!

    Thanks. This is the one feature I despise in the new ryanair. I'm sure they Prolly charge to move seat there so bad. Might book my normal one so just to know I'll get it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    If you pay the €5 to select your own seat, then that seat will be on your boarding pass
    Otherwise, if you don't pay the fiver, a random seat number will be on your boarding pass when you checkin online.

    They'll probably still get takers for the priority boarding, some people get terrible anxious about not getting space for their luggage etc!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭180567


    I wonder does it mean you won't be able to get a window seat without paying extra to select your seat ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 922 ✭✭✭FWVT


    So families with young kids now must pay the fee if they want to sit together?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    FWVT wrote: »
    So families with young kids now must pay the fee if they want to sit together?
    I wouldn't think so. The tickets would've been booked together under the same payment so I think the seating would be next to each other.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,618 ✭✭✭IngazZagni


    According to the Ryanair twitter page, those who book a "premium seat" (rows 1-5, 16 & 17, 32 & 33) priority boarding is included in the price. If you just book a regular seat, then priority boarding can be purchased for 2 euro per passenger.

    They generally try to have families sitting together as it is, not having that causes tension and boarding delays.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    jamo2oo9 wrote: »
    I wouldn't think so. The tickets would've been booked together under the same payment so I think the seating would be next to each other.

    Unless of course all the window and aisles seats are already pre-booked by other passengers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,077 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    I presume this will come in for anyone checking in from 1 February. I am flying an outward leg on 25 January and home on 1 February, but I wondering if I will be offered an assigned seat for my return journey - probably not I suspect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭relaxed



    They'll probably still get takers for the priority boarding, some people get terrible anxious about not getting space for their luggage etc!

    I was on a flight recently and when I got to the door of the plane (airbridge boarding) I noticed a few cabin bags had yellow stickers "free cabin bag" on them and I assume somebody was bringing them down to the hold.

    I would be quite happy to elect for my 10kG bag to be stored in the hold, free of charge as long as I could get it fairly quickly once the plane has landed.

    I've been on small planes before where you stow your bag into the hold and unload it afterwards, similar to a bus.

    Will there be any way to elect to put my bag in the hold and bring a small carry on bag into the cabin which goes under your feet.

    Obviously only required on heavily loaded flights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 450 ✭✭Fagashlil


    relaxed wrote: »
    I was on a flight recently and when I got to the door of the plane (airbridge boarding) I noticed a few cabin bags had yellow stickers "free cabin bag" on them and I assume somebody was bringing them down to the hold.

    I would be quite happy to elect for my 10kG bag to be stored in the hold, free of charge as long as I could get it fairly quickly once the plane has landed.

    I've been on small planes before where you stow your bag into the hold and unload it afterwards, similar to a bus.

    Will there be any way to elect to put my bag in the hold and bring a small carry on bag into the cabin which goes under your feet.

    Obviously only required on heavily loaded flights.

    I'm sure you could volunteer for it to be placed in the hold, I've had passengers very kindly offer to this this once on board, when literally the last person boarding brought their free gate checked bag on board and refused to place it in the hold.

    The gate bags are collected on the baggage carousel along with the paid checked baggage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    IngazZagni wrote: »
    According to the Ryanair twitter page, those who book a "premium seat" (rows 1-5, 16 & 17, 32 & 33) priority boarding is included in the price. If you just book a regular seat, then priority boarding can be purchased for 2 euro per passenger.

    They generally try to have families sitting together as it is, not having that causes tension and boarding delays.

    Well I hope they do keep families together because if they don't some poor sap is going to look like a homewrecker when he tries to sit in his allocated seat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭relaxed


    Fagashlil wrote: »

    The gate bags are collected on the baggage carousel along with the paid checked baggage.

    That would be a pain. Why not unload them and leave them beside the steps for people to collect as they pass?

    I remember that being done before on a smaller plane.

    Aren't buggies treated this way, left at the bootom of the steps, as you need the buggy to push the kid to the carousel in the first place!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 450 ✭✭Fagashlil


    relaxed wrote: »
    That would be a pain. Why not unload them and leave them beside the steps for people to collect as they pass?

    I remember that being done before on a smaller plane.

    Aren't buggies treated this way, left at the bootom of the steps, as you need the buggy to push the kid to the carousel in the first place!

    It would make more sense and probably a lot more people would be more willing to pit their bag in the hold, so I don't know! My best guess is its a time factor. The buggies are done like this in most airports, but there's some, mainly where an airbridge is used, that they're sent to the carousel which defeats the purpose of bringing your buggy to push the child through the airport!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭Evan DietrichSmith


    This is why it's a pain.
    Ryanair schedule is all premised on quick turnaround.


    My guess is that three people are sent to unload an aircraft which is 'loose loaded'

    To send baggage to the steps would mean at least one person taken out and mean that baggage required at the steps would have to be labelled separately,loaded separately,and then reconciled.

    Can't see Ryanair getting into that game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,049 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    relaxed wrote: »
    Aren't buggies treated this way, left at the bootom of the steps, as you need the buggy to push the kid to the carousel in the first place!
    Depends on the airport. Flying SXF-DUB with EI and your buggy will be waiting for you at the top of the airbridge, open sometimes and ready for use! The reverse journey will see you waiting for up to an hour to get your buggy from excess luggage for some reason.

    The normal way IME is that the buggy is available for collection on the carousel.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,077 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    vienne86 wrote: »
    I presume this will come in for anyone checking in from 1 February. I am flying an outward leg on 25 January and home on 1 February, but I wondering if I will be offered an assigned seat for my return journey - probably not I suspect.

    Well, I checked in, and I have assigned seats for the return journey - seats together, row 14, one aisle. Very happy with that. I would imagine it would slow up the boarding process, so we'll see how it goes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 450 ✭✭Fagashlil


    dubdaymo wrote: »
    Q1.
    Anyone like to hazard a guess as to how boarding will be done when the allocated seating system starts. Will it be just the same as now, with two queues, one for Priority Boarding/Reserved Seating and Other.

    From what we've been told this week, there will still be the 2 queues, priority is included in the " premium" seat selection, and is an extra €2 for regular seats.

    The other queue will be split into front and rear boarding, it's printed on the boarding card which door to use.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Can I ask whether there is anyway around the check in process whereby the "free" seats aren't available until a certain date?
    If you want to check in for a flight Ryanair now seem to try force you to:
    purchase a seat (as in pay more for the seat you've already paid for)
    wait until a certain date until the "free seats" becomes available.

    I cannot see a way around it myself and it seems to be a way they have to try get you to pay more for your seat, parcicularily if you are going for a week and you can only checkin the "free" seat on the outward journy, checking in for the inward journey would usually only be open while you are away.
    I prefer getting the whole lot checked in and printed together.
    Perhaps I am missing something obvious here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Now that kippy has gotten their answer this necro thread is being locked.


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