Garda Recruitment

gmarty

I'm just wondering is it possible to get in to the gardai if a person has misdimeener offences, 3 in total. I doubt it but I'm just double checking.

Thanks

Marcusm

I thought the concept of felony v misdemeanour had been abolished in Ireland?

Zambia

There is only one sure fire way of not getting in. Not applying.

gmarty

Thanks guys, I paid one 100 euro fine, a probation act and a donation to the court poor box donation. I'm thinking it will come against when doing a back ground check

Lmklad

It really depends what you were in court for. The majority of Road traffic offences aren't criminal. Apply anyway.

234

Lmklad wrote: »

It really depends what you were in court for. The majority of Road traffic offences aren't criminal. Apply anyway.

Eh...all offences are criminal.

Lmklad

234 wrote: »

Eh...all offences are criminal.

No they're not. Drink, drug driving and causing death by dangerous driving are the main criminal ones. Tickets aren't speeding isn't....

coylemj

Lmklad wrote: »

No they're not. Drink, drug driving and causing death by dangerous driving are the main criminal ones. Tickets aren't speeding isn't....

If you are summonsed for any RTA offence and convicted in the district court, it is a criminal conviction no matter how trivial the offence though below drink and/or dangerous driving, most RTA offences are not considered in the same category as convictions for assault, theft etc.

It's unlikely that a candidate for the Gardai would be excluded on the basis of a conviction for exceeding the speed limit or a parking fine imposed by the courts, both of which constitute criminal convictions.

Lmklad

The last or second last criminal justice act changed that. RTA offences no longer count for background checks or visas as criminal offences. They will still be available to an employer. Moral is still apply.

Fred Swanson

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Pro Hoc Vice

Lmklad wrote: »

The last or second last criminal justice act changed that. RTA offences no longer count for background checks or visas as criminal offences. They will still be available to an employer. Moral is still apply.

Can you link to the section.

gmarty

I never said I had rt offences, which I don't anyway but thanks for the posts

coylemj

gmarty wrote: »

I never said I had rt offences, which I don't anyway but thanks for the posts

OP, sorry if the thread got sidetracked on the technical issue of what constitutes a 'criminal' offence.

You said that you paid one €100 fine along with a couple of what we might liberally call 'near miss' events (probation act and poor box donation) in the courts. If that €100 fine was not for a traffic offence then in all probability it was for an offence that might be considered a blocker to you joining the Gardai.

It's up to you if you want to share the details of the offence on this thread. My tuppence worth would say that if it was for an assault, you might be in trouble but if it was for something a bit more vague (i.e. not an offence against an individual) arising out of a night on the town then you might get away with it.

gmarty

Probation act public order, 150 fine for public order and poor box donation for possession of substance, don't look good in my opinion

Santa Cruz

Your application form will be checked out as well as your background. The circumstances of the offences will be considered. However I don't think that you would be acceptable especially with a conviction under the Misuse of Drugs Act.

gmarty

Thanks Santa Cruz, but I don't have a conviction under the misuse act as I paid a voluntary donation to the court poor box, thus to avoid a conviction, however I know this will come up anyway in the background check

Koch

OP: You are wasting your time applying with a Probation Act on your rap sheet.

There are 10,000s of applicants. You haven't a hope in hell.

Anyway, the pay is sh*te and the hours as a junior Garda are awful.

€396 a week after tax -- not much more than a McDonald's worker.

234

Lmklad wrote: »

No they're not. Drink, drug driving and causing death by dangerous driving are the main criminal ones. Tickets aren't speeding isn't....

Any conviction is a criminal conviction. That much cannot be argued with.

Certain things like the Probation Act, fixed penalty notices, etc avoid a conviction. But once there is a conviction imposed in court it is a criminal conviction. It gives you a criminal record.

Whether certain organisations consider certain classes of conviction relevant for their recruitment process does not change the inevitably criminal nature of those convictions.

Fred Swanson

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