Rosslare train timetable restored

n97 mini

A friend is travelling next month from Fishguard and I notice the short lived 19.10 train ex Rosslare Europort to facilitate foot passengers has been done away with, replaced with the old 17.55 passenger dodging service. The change appears to have been made in September.

a-b.ie is suggesting two buses for anyone arriving on the 18.00 ferry, and ironically one of them is not CIE run.

corktina

I hit the LIKE button...I couldn't find a don't like button

end of the road

very little usership apparently, what happens when you destroy something in the first place, people don't come back

Jamie2k9

end of the road wrote: »

very little usership apparently, what happens when you destroy something in the first place, people don't come back

Ask ferry operators and they will tell you primary demand will be 02.45 ex UK and 21.00 ex Ireland, people will travel through the night over day.

The above and the fact why would people travel via Rosslare to Dublin when they can go via Hollyhead.

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Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Ask ferry operators and they will tell you primary demand will be 02.45 ex UK and 21.00 ex Ireland, people will travel through the night over day.

some probably will yes, doesn't change the fact that the connection at rosslare was sabotaged destroyed and vandelized beyond repair by CIE

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

why would people travel via Rosslare to Dublin when they can go via Hollyhead.

because hollyhead won't always suit people, even if someone is going to dublin they may find whatever part of the UK their coming from their might be less of a wait for changes or connections to fishgard over hollyhead.

Jamie2k9

some probably will yes, doesn't change the fact that the connection at rosslare was sabotaged destroyed and vandelized beyond repair by CIE

Were numbers exceptionally high to begin with, did they destroy it or just reduce costs as numbers were not meeting the required costs or lather running.

because hollyhead won't always suit people, even if someone is going to dublin they may find whatever part of the UK their coming from their might be less of a wait for changes or connections to fishgard over hollyhead.

Possible but unlikely IMO.

Geog1234

Interconnecting between these two buses in normal circumstances is do-able; the stops are about a minute apart (the Wexford Bus route 740 to Dublin stops just around the corner from the rail station where the bus from Rosslare stops).

That said any delay from Rosslare and the other bus will likely be gone. Downside is the need to buy two separate tickets.

Alternative is to wait an hour in Wexford for the 20.30hrs Bus Eireann route 2. The plus side is that one ticket can be bought for the whole journey (cheaper online than from bus driver). The downside can be offset a bit by the fact there's a large Dunnes Stores just across the road from the rail station in Wexford to while away some time.

Leaving aside the budget airlines who captured most passengers, another issue is that there was very little (any?) apparent marketing of the ferry-rail connections.

When the line from Rosslare across to Waterford was open for passengers the evening train from the Kildare/Carlow/Kilkenny line reached Waterford a few minutes after the Rosslare train had departed. Some months before the line closed I recall spending a few hours around Waterford as we travelled from the Kildare/Carlow/Kikenny line on an earlier train as that was the only way to make the onward connection for the ferry. In the morning anyone wishing to travel west of Waterford had to wait around 4 hours in Waterford for the next train west.

Contrast this to Eurolines whose operation running along the parallel route, Cork-Waterford-Rosslare-Wales-London to this day is modestly successful despite being generally slower on both sides of the sea to what rail does/did offer. The difference in my view - a coherent promotion and marketing strategy.

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Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Were numbers exceptionally high to begin with?

yes

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

did they destroy it or just reduce costs as numbers were not meeting the required costs or lather running.

they destroyed it

end of the road

Geog1234 wrote: »

Leaving aside the budget airlines who captured most passengers, another issue is that there was very little (any?) apparent marketing of the ferry-rail connections.

none that i could see

Geog1234 wrote: »

When the line from Rosslare across to Waterford was open for passengers the evening train from the Kildare/Carlow/Kilkenny line reached Waterford a few minutes after the Rosslare train had departed. Some months before the line closed I recall spending a few hours around Waterford as we travelled from the Kildare/Carlow/Kikenny line on an earlier train as that was the only way to make the onward connection for the ferry. In the morning anyone wishing to travel west of Waterford had to wait around 4 hours in Waterford for the next train west.

exactly, all designed to kill the line and if possible rosslare and its line to dublin.

n97 mini

Anyone know the rationale for putting the 19.10 back to a passenger-dodging 17.55?

Surely it's about providing a service and even if one foot passenger uses it at 19.10, that's better than zero at 17.55?

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n97 mini wrote: »

Anyone know the rationale for putting the 19.10 back to a passenger-dodging 17.55?

Surely it's about providing a service and even if one foot passenger uses it at 19.10, that's better than zero at 17.55?

all designed to kill that service altogether i'd say, i bet everywhere else such as sligo and westport have a later service, but shur begorra begosh i suppose us lot down here have the tay and sangwidges got and are in bed by 6 to be sure to be sure