Murderer Offender List

Shrobbs

Do you think there should be some form of a murderer offenders list or serial murderer offenders list?

If so should you have the right to know if a murderer or serial murderer lives nearby?

My own opinion would be that murderers who murder strangers should be on a registered murder offender list so that the public can take precautions against such characters.

Sir Humphrey Appleby

No and no.

Robbo

Shrobbs wrote: »

Do you think there should be some form of a murderer offenders list or serial murderer offenders list?

If so should you have the right to know if a murderer or serial murderer lives nearby?

My own opinion would be that murderers who murder strangers should be on a registered murder offender list so that the public can take precautions against such characters.

I think the main thing we should take away from this is murder. Moreover, murder.

Frank Black

Shrobbs wrote: »

My own opinion would be that murderers who murder strangers should be on a registered murder offender list so that the public can take precautions against such characters.

Like burning down their houses?

kneemos

How could you avoid them?

Hande hoche!

Best drive out the pediatricians too, can never be too sure.

The Backwards Man

Yay, that's we need, lynch mobs. And hangings. Been ages since we had a good hanging.

osarusan

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Best drive out the pediatricians too, can never be too sure.

They're all the same sure.

Dravokivich

How about pickpocketers get done for sexual harrasment too while we're at it?

It's practically the same as feeling someone up.

MrStuffins

Would it not just be easier to ask "What are you in for?" ?

Arrow.

Shrobbs wrote: »

Do you think there should be some form of a murderer offenders list or serial murderer offenders list?

If so should you have the right to know if a murderer or serial murderer lives nearby?

My own opinion would be that murderers who murder strangers should be on a registered murder offender list so that the public can take precautions against such characters.

In fairness, if more people generally find they're living near known serial murd-diddly-urderers then they're not living on this planet.

meoklmrk91

I don't think so, maybe it's because I am a Culchie but I'm not even sure there is a need for a sex offenders list in Ireland, everyone knows everyone's business, you can't piss crooked in small town Ireland without someone knowing about it.

kop-end

...and the Cheesemakers, let's be having them

Artful_Badger

Dont see how it matters what they did as long as they aint doing it now. I'd imagine living next door to a murderer would be a dream compared with living next door to any of the hundreds of thousands of anti social scumbags.

kop-end

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

I don't think so, maybe it's because I am a Culchie but I'm not even sure there is a need for a sex offenders list in Ireland, everyone knows everyone's business, you can't piss crooked in small town Ireland without someone knowing about it.

What about the City, it's not all Glenroe up here, I hardlt talk to my next-door neighbour...come to think of it...he may be a murdrer..:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Hello_MrFox

They should also name and shame all the people who have been caught speeding, drink drivers, people who litter/illegal dump rubbish, people who did not pay there TV license etc. Lets just make a list for bloody everything while were at it and broadcast it live on the RTE news at 9.

Links234

Artful_Badger wrote: »

Dont see how it matters what they did as long as they aint doing it now. I'd imagine living next door to a murderer would be a dream compared with living next door to any of the hundreds of thousands of anti social scumbags.

"Why yes, our new neighbor is so much more considerate than our old ones, he's even installed soundproofing in the basement." :eek:

circadian

Here, lads, I don't wanna be on no list.

Hande hoche!

circadian wrote: »

Here, lads, I don't wanna be on no list.

Don't murder anyone and if you do, then don't get caught.

circadian

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Don't murder anyone and if you do, then don't get caught.

You could have told me this before I done 15 years.

angelfire9

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Don't murder anyone and if you do, then don't get caught.

There's a house a few doors down from me that gets raided by the drugs squad fairly regularly
NDU were watching it the other night when I was out looking for a stupid cat that did a runner in the thunder, fairly sure at this stage with the amount of comings and goings and dodgy looking yokes who call to the house at all hours that the residents are dealing but sure what can you do...

Holsten

Nope, no lists at all, for anything.

You brake the law, get sentenced and when that sentence is up you should be as free as you were before.

Anything else amounts to further unwarranted punishment. E.g if people belief someone should be on a list then they should still be in custody.

Hande hoche!

angelfire9 wrote: »

There's a house a few doors down from me that gets raided by the drugs squad fairly regularly
NDU were watching it the other night when I was out looking for a stupid cat that did a runner in the thunder, fairly sure at this stage with the amount of comings and goings and dodgy looking yokes who call to the house at all hours that the residents are dealing but sure what can you do...

Sorry to hear that.....possibly make it look like an accident.

angelfire9

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Sorry to hear that.....possibly make it look like an accident.

Sad to say the dealers are actually an improvement on the residents that were there before them

Hande hoche!

angelfire9 wrote: »

Sad to say the dealers are actually an improvement on the residents that were there before them

The previous crowd must have been neighbors from hell.

Shrobbs

Holsten wrote: »

Nope, no lists at all, for anything.

You brake the law, get sentenced and when that sentence is up you should be as free as you were before.

Anything else amounts to further unwarranted punishment. E.g if people belief someone should be on a list then they should still be in custody.

Thats not very practical.

Eire Go Brach

Is there anything that could be done anyway?

Let's say for someone who brutally murdered a women and left her body up the mountains and the justice systems failed.

CrazyRabbit

It would be just as useful as the US Sex Offenders Register.
Thousands of offenders living under bridges, unable to find accommodation or jobs. Which results in them becoming bitter, hateful, angry & therefore far more likely to re-offend and in a more extreme manner.

When you start creating registers for any kind of offenders, you are taking punishment away from the courts and handing it to the people. That will never work out well.

Prison exists both as a deterrent, and to punish. But without rehabilitation, you are never really fixing the problem. But Offender Registers seriously hamper rehabilitation which just results in a continuation and escalation of offending behaviour.

poppyvally

Hello_MrFox wrote: »

They should also name and shame all the people who have been caught speeding, drink drivers, people who litter/illegal dump rubbish, people who did not pay there TV license etc. Lets just make a list for bloody everything while were at it and broadcast it live on the RTE news at 9.

Ah! f/o we're talking about serial killers

House of Blaze

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Don't murder anyone and if you do, then don't get caught.

Don't do what Donny Don't does..

pavb2

House of Blaze wrote: »

Don't do what Donny Don't does..

Dey do dough don't dey dough

1.40

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qu8q9-M7GTU

Eire Go Brach

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

It would be just as useful as the US Sex Offenders Register.
Thousands of offenders living under bridges, unable to find accommodation or jobs. Which results in them becoming bitter, hateful, angry & therefore far more likely to re-offend and in a more extreme manner.

When you start creating registers for any kind of offenders, you are taking punishment away from the courts and handing it to the people. That will never work out well.

Prison exists both as a deterrent, and to punish. But without rehabilitation, you are never really fixing the problem. But Offender Registers seriously hamper rehabilitation which just results in a continuation and escalation of offending behaviour.

Great point. Buts It's no comfort if you live close to the person and fear it's you or your partner he could murder next. It's all about self preservation really.

corner of hells

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

Great point. Buts It's no comfort if you live close to the person and fear it's you or your partner he could murder next. It's all about self preservation really.

Maybe you should murder your neighbours , that way your safe and wont have to worry bout him being on the list.

Cantremember

Good idea OP. Would enable people to be more wary of certain individuals and tackle landlords about who they park beside you.

Absoluvely

pavb2 wrote: »

Dey do dough don't dey dough

1.40

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qu8q9-M7GTU

Dey do do dat dere doe don't dey doe?

http://youtu.be/Gu9q_vedO7w?t=3m36s

House of Blaze

Most murders are one time deals though in fairness unlike sex offenders.

Crimes of passion etc.

Having someones name on a list isn't going to protect you from the six people on your street who might be about to murder someone.

Seems kind of pointless.

NightOfTheHunt

I would rather not know about it, but at the same time would like to know about it. A highly conflicting issue. Damn you OP. just as I was going to sleep now I need to sort this internal struggle out. ahhhh

Hotfail.com

Cantremember wrote: »

Good idea OP. Would enable people to be more wary of certain individuals and tackle landlords about who they park beside you.

It's all grand until the murderer realises you stopped him getting a house and goes after you

endacl

May I be the first to welcome our new murderer overlords.

biko

A murderer murderer list would be awesome.

CrazyRabbit

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

Great point. Buts It's no comfort if you live close to the person and fear it's you or your partner he could murder next. It's all about self preservation really.

And knowing where they live would make you safer?
Would it matter if that killer lived 3 houses away or 3 cities away? A killer who chooses to kill again could do so anywhere they wish. Murderers can drive and use public transport too!

Eire Go Brach

corner of hells wrote: »

Maybe you should murder your neighbours , that way your safe and wont have to worry bout him being on the list.

I do not think that would be very fair on the neighbours. But judging by the sympathy for murderers here. I think I'd be ok