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Bible on TV3

  • 21-12-2013 5:54pm
    #1
    Manach
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    FYI, This is a US miniseries, starting tonight on TV3: link.


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  • #2
    lmaopml
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    Manach wrote: »
    FYI, This is a US miniseries, starting tonight on TV3: link.


    Cheers Manach - I heard about this a while ago and how well it did in the ratings, to the astonishment of some etc. I didn't know it was airing tonight ( missed it ) but I reckon I can catch up tomorrow - just have to make sure I hog the TV and let them know I'm watching it in advance...

    Thanks for letting us know :)


  • #3
    Spring Onion
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    This program is interesting but you cant help come to the conclusion that Judaism & Christianity have stemmed from warlords and murderers. And I thought that was just Islam! I did not realise the violence associated with the old testament 'religions' leaders.


  • #4
    antiskeptic
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    Spring Onion wrote: »
    This program is interesting but you cant help come to the conclusion that Judaism & Christianity have stemmed from warlords and murderers. And I thought that was just Islam! I did not realise the violence associated with the old testament 'religions' leaders.

    Best of luck using that pitch before the Lord (should it come down to it). You arguing yourself more righteous than them would be like one grain of sand on a beach arguing that it is closer to the sun than the grain next to it.

    You clearly not read the Old Testament (in which violence is common). And have clearly not read the New Testament, in which all are found to fall short of right motivation / action. That includes you.


  • #5
    Spring Onion
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    My point was simple though you tried to complicate it. Pitch to the Lord? :D Yes I have rarely read the bible in any great detail but I had always assumed the likes of Joshua, Isaac, David etc were peace loving inspirational leaders unlike Muhammad who I always assumed was a powerful warlord. However I am starting to realised that they all had to be conquering warlords to succeed. Except of course Jesus.


  • #6
    antiskeptic
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    Spring Onion wrote: »
    My point was simple though you tried to complicate it. Pitch to the Lord? :D Yes I have rarely read the bible in any great detail but I had always assumed the likes of Joshua, Isaac, David etc were peace loving inspirational leaders unlike Muhammad who I always assumed was a powerful warlord. However I am starting to realised that they all had to be conquering warlords to succeed. Except of course Jesus.

    Except Jesus? He might not be fighting the wars of man. But that is not to say he isn't involved in vicious, ongoing warfare.

    Or that God the Father, who Jesus is in step with, isn't the one behind much of the war you read of in the Old Testament.


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  • #7
    Manach
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    My 2c on the violence. Having a cursory knowledge of the history of that region, it was literally a cockpit of feuding empires for millenia. Should the Israelites been warlords, they would have been quickly annihilated by greater powers. Ditto if complete pacifists. Hence what the social construct of that concept of religion was not a bureaucratic caste such as Mesopotamia nor a complete mysticial, but a fine balancing act, a way to achieve a distinctive voice. So taking the Abrahamic foundation myth, the lead interpretive concept seems to be that the binding of Isasc did not end with a human sacrifice. The Israelites differed from their rivals in that their God sought a differing type of worship, a gradual and evolving that did not embrace violence for divine sake.


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