Cash donations to charity - NOT a rant about CRC

miss no stars

I'll try and keep this short and to the point. Mods, please don't move this to humanities as it doesn't belong there. I'm just trying to get a very practical point across.


Many charities of all sizes receive NO state funding and rely SOLELY on cash donations to keep the lights on. These charities provide wide ranges of services - from driving cancer patients to and from treatment - to rescuing animals - to providing shelter and warm blankets to the homeless - to providing top quality end of life care. They cannot keep going without cash donations. Many of these services are vital.


In all of this scandal please, please don't lose sight of the bigger picture. Charities do good work. Often, that good work needs cash. Goods and time helps, but money is essential. Please don't let the wrong-doing of what is essentially a state body (CRC is mostly state-funded) deter you from donating to a charity. These charities have done no wrong, yet they're paying for the wrong-doing of the CRC's board. Don't make the injustice worse. If you want to make sure that the charity you support is above board - ask to see their financial report.


By stopping donations to legitimate charities you are making what the CRC's board did even worse.


The wrong people are suffering.


If you've decided to stop giving cash to a charity you would otherwise support, please rethink it.

your not from Victory Outreach are you

all charity's are scams

you guys are so aggressive & annoying at the end of till at supermarkets tills outside shops etc .

chancers the lot of you

there's a reason you get no funding .

miss no stars

No I'm not. I'm not associated with any charity. I'd have mentioned it if I was. But I have heard from people directly involved with some that if donations don't pick up soon they've only a month or so left before they go under. If you think what the CRC's board did is disgusting then don't make it worse by allowing good charities doing essential work to be dragged down while the CRC survives.

duffman13

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all charity's are scams

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Stopped reading! What an idiotic and senseless viewpoint, generalisation of the highest order

miss no stars

miss no stars wrote: »

No I'm not. I'm not associated with any charity. I'd have mentioned it if I was. But I have heard from people directly involved with some that if donations don't pick up soon they've only a month or so left before they go under. If you think what the CRC's board did is disgusting then don't make it worse by allowing good charities doing essential work to be dragged down while the CRC survives.

good cannot wait till there gone

I have no problem with a legit (:rolleyes:) charity but most and I mean mean like 98% badger me at the till in dunnes , Tesco paying for my shopping or walking out of a store reaching out for my arm

I started a start complaining about this in the limerick forms where a girl asked me if I wanted to donate to a charity I said no and she went off on one though I kept walking

duffman13

duffman13 wrote: »

Stopped reading! What an idiotic and senseless viewpoint, generalisation of the highest order

tell that to the guys that are toping up there pay

open your eyes duffman13 . google it for Christ sake better yet watch Tuesday prime time

NuckingFacker

I've a slight view that charity is the workhorse that gets government off the hook for stuff they ought to be doing but don't. That frees them up to do stuff they shouldn't be doing but do. I'll give an example -Crumlin Childrens hospital. A charity case? For why? That's Governments responsibility. Funding it through private means lets government off the hook. They need to be put back on the hook and start funding the stuff they get away with hiving off to charity. That might clip their wings on the "stuff they need to not be doing" front.

miss no stars

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good cannot wait till there gone

I have no problem with a legit (:rolleyes:) charity but most and I mean mean like 98% badger me at the till in dunnes , Tesco paying for my shopping or walking out of a store reaching out for my arm

I started a start complaining about this in the limerick forms where a girl asked me if I wanted to donate to a charity I said no and she went off on one though I kept walking

Some badger. Yup. Most don't. If you can't see that then the problem is with you.

duffman13

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tell that to the guys that are toping up there pay

open your eyes duffman13 . google it for Christ sake better yet watch Tuesday prime time

Google it? So google says every charity is a scam? Get a grip, some bad news stories lately and i know some of the executives are on a lot of money. I agree that they recieve excessive pay but a lot of these charities do tremendous work. If you cant see that fair enough, but to tarnish every bloody charity with the same brush is borderline delusional.

Rachiee

Having worked in the charity sector many years I would say that all charities have their dark side. At the end if the day to hereto their services running they have to run like a business and people suffer but that doesn't take away from the excellent work they do the rest of the time. But it is always a leap of faith, you never really know what goes on behind closed doors.
Im not sure the drop in donations to charity is related to the CRC. It could be just cos people are flat broke.I know technically things are lifting but that's certainly not trickling down to me or my friends.we've never been worse off.

Atlantic Dawn

Without a charity regulator I will never ever give one cent to any charity in this state again.

miss no stars

NuckingFacker wrote: »

I've a slight view that charity is the workhorse that gets government off the hook for stuff they ought to be doing but don't. That frees them up to do stuff they shouldn't be doing but do. I'll give an example -Crumlin Childrens hospital. A charity case? For why? That's Governments responsibility. Funding it through private means lets government off the hook. They need to be put back on the hook and start funding the stuff they get away with hiving off to charity. That might clip their wings on the "stuff they need to not be doing" front.

That's the catch 22. But if you remove some of them - especially the smaller ones that are basically run voluntarily at local level and provide services on the ground - that void won't be filled. It just won't be.

Tombo2001

miss no stars wrote: »

No I'm not. I'm not associated with any charity. I'd have mentioned it if I was. But I have heard from people directly involved with some that if donations don't pick up soon they've only a month or so left before they go under. If you think what the CRC's board did is disgusting then don't make it worse by allowing good charities doing essential work to be dragged down while the CRC survives.

Not wishing to be a smart arse, but just because they don't have enough money to function doesn't mean it will make a big difference if they are gone.....

Bottom line is that the charity sector on whole has tarnished itself by falling for the myth that they have to 'pay up' to get 'good people' to run them.....

This has made people distrustful of them, and you are right, they are all tarred with the same brush.

The man on the street doesn't have time to go through the annual report of every charity to see which ones are paying their CEO's €140k a year and which ones aren't.......and loads of them are.

miss no stars

Rachiee wrote: »

Having worked in the charity sector many years I would say that all charities have their dark side. At the end if the day to hereto their services running they have to run like a business and people suffer but that doesn't take away from the excellent work they do the rest of the time. But it is always a leap of faith, you never really know what goes on behind closed doors.
Im not sure the drop in donations to charity is related to the CRC. It could be just cos people are flat broke.I know technically things are lifting but that's certainly not trickling down to me or my friends.we've never been worse off.

I've heard charities reporting a 50% drop in donations since the CRC story broke. It's related.

And as I said, if you have your doubts but think they do good work - ask to see their financial statement.

moc moc a moc

It's a pity there aren't any charities for the improvement of grammar and spelling we could donate to, eh tadj?

Chucken

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good cannot wait till there gone

I have no problem with a legit (:rolleyes:) charity but most and I mean mean like 98% badger me at the till in dunnes , Tesco paying for my shopping or walking out of a store reaching out for my arm

I started a start complaining about this in the limerick forms where a girl asked me if I wanted to donate to a charity I said no and she went off on one though I kept walking

So you're from Limerick? So would you say Adapt House, for instance, should receive no money? They're a reg charity. I could find more but I'm not going to.

Rachiee

On the other side of regulation though with tighter controls charity workers who are employed to help people will end up spending almost half their day filling in paperwork instead of doing the work they were really employed to do. ( it's a pity, but I do think stricter regulations are important)

miss no stars

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Not wishing to be a smart arse, but just because they don't have enough money to function doesn't mean it will make a big difference if they are gone.....

Bottom line is that the charity sector on whole has tarnished itself by falling for the myth that they have to 'pay up' to get 'good people' to run them.....

This has made people distrustful of them, and you are right, they are all tarred with the same brush.

The man on the street doesn't have time to go through the annual report of every charity to see which ones are paying their CEO's €140k a year and which ones aren't.......and loads of them are.

See, a lot of these smaller charities do make a difference to the people they serve and the void won't be filled if they go. Most of them don't pay up for CEOs. They have people on the ground doing hard graft.

And yeah, people don't have time to go through every annual report of every charity, but chances are if it's a small one providing services locally - they don't have a CEO. If you're in doubt just ASK them - "do you have a salaried CEO?".

CRC is mostly state funded. There are other large charities - like hospices - that are entirely charity funded. They have very real costs that can't be met with tins of beans and donated clothing. They provide very much needed services.

The backlash against charities is going too far. The phrase "cutting off your nose to spite your face" comes to mind.

NuckingFacker

moc moc a moc wrote: »

It's a pity there aren't any charities for the improvement of grammar and spelling we could donate to, eh tadj?

There is one - it's the Grammar Nazi Support Group - they meet on a thursday and accept Paypal but it's like being in the IRA tbh, they're a banned organisation.