Dad threatens to drive over 5 yrs old son if he does not run faster

DogSlySmile

:eek:

A video has emerged of a father threatening to run over his five-year old son unless he trains harder.

Link to story and video here

Itziger

Look, it's harmless. Dad's a bit of a prick but he wasn't exactly about to kill the child. Also, the old educational background might be a bit wobbly.

Hope the little fella makes it in to the Cowboy squad!

ecoli

#1 rule - Parents and coaching should never mix (Coe was an exception)

Gavlor

ecoli wrote: »

#1 rule - Parents and coaching should never mix (Coe was an exception)

Depends on the sport.... Messi? Maradona, ronaldo?

meoklmrk91

Scumbag, there's no need for that ****. If I was that kids mother his father would be lucky to get supervised visits after that. No, I don't think he was going to knock him down but by the way the kid was looking back and legging it when the father beeped the horn he was scared.

Cabaal

Whats the bet that the father is a fat bastard? (might explain why he's driving and being a lazy prick)

(is that kid wearing vibrams?)

dna_leri

Cabaal wrote: »

(is that kid wearing vibrams?)

Yes they make you run faster.

Letyourselfgo

ecoli wrote: »

#1 rule - Parents and coaching should never mix (Coe was an exception)

Really

Dtp1979

ecoli wrote: »

#1 rule - Parents and coaching should never mix (Coe was an exception)

Katie Taylor??

ecoli

Stand by previous statement. Exceptions prove the rule rather than the other way around. I always feel you are better off not coaching your own. You will always push your own harder whether concious or not and there may be some kids who can take this but ultimately it puts a heavy strain on the relationship with no time for the kid to switch off.

There are plenty of examples (most of which are from technical based sports more so than physical conditioning based ones) but for every one that I can think if that it has worked I know 2-3 it hasn't.

Dtp1979

Actually if you look at it the best in the world have been taught by their parents
Katie Taylor
Tiger woods
Venus and Serena Williams
Rhonda rousey
I'm sure there's lots more

notsofast

There would be an awful lot of kids in athletic clubs throughout Ireland with precious little coaching if their parents didn't get involved. Look at the number of athletes coached by parents on recent Ireland underaged squads.

In an ideal world you are correct, but it doesn't work like that in reality.

ecoli

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Actually if you look at it the best in the world have been taught by their parents
Katie Taylor
Tiger woods
Venus and Serena Williams
Rhonda rousey
I'm sure there's lots more

As I said there are plenty of examples of success stories but I would say that certain personality traits which you would associate with outliers in their respective fields that enable them to excel also

ecoli wrote: »

You will always push your own harder whether concious or not and there may be some kids who can take this but ultimately it puts a heavy strain on the relationship with no time for the kid to switch off.

notsofast wrote: »

There would be an awful lot of kids in athletic clubs throughout Ireland with precious little coaching if their parents didn't get involved. Look at the number of athletes coached by parents on recent Ireland underaged squads.

In an ideal world you are correct, but it doesn't work like that in reality.

I get what you are saying and I am not knocking parents who coach in fact they are the back bone of athletics at grass route level in the country and many of which have a genuine talent for it,

You may find many athletes coached by their parents at underage level and achieve a degree of success but with no chance to switch off the attrition rate (of the coach as well as the athlete) is very high. Coaching at youth level you need to blend short term success to keep motivation with long term goals and progression, which is hard enough when you are looking objectively as a coach without bringing in the emotional connection of wanting the best for your child.

I do agree though not always possible in smaller clubs but I know a few coaches who try to abide by the "never coach your own" and have specifically moved athletes from their group to another within the club and I would generally have the same thought process although this might be blurred from anecdotal evidence I have seen down the years.

Murph_D

I coached my daughter's football team when she was about 9. What a head wreck. Never again!

ultraman1

ecoli wrote: »

#1 rule - Parents and coaching should never mix (Coe was an exception)

Trr and cl??

Krusty_Clown

The question we should all be asking, is: what kind of improvements did this process yield, and is it something that we may see Salazar and the Nike project incorporating into their routines in the future? Could this man be the next Arthur Lydiard?

SpaceTime

That is disturbing behaviour for anyone interacting with a 5-year-old.

At that age, people take things absolutely literally. They don't have the brain development or psychological sophistication to understand figures of speech. Threatening to run him over is likely to leave the kid very disturbed as he'll actually believe it.

I would also think running on hard surfaces at that age is probably not a very good idea either. He's still a baby and wouldn't have the coordination or muscle development to do that kind of running.

Also, the father would want to learn to teach by doing! Get out and play some sports with your kids. Shouting at them from a car while driving at them is absolutely ridiculous behaviour.

nerraw1111

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

The question we should all be asking, is: what kind of improvements did this process yield, and is it something that we may see Salazar and the Nike project incorporating into their routines in the future? Could this man be the next Arthur Lydiard?

The kid did find that extra gear.

I'd recommend the documentary on netflix, The Short Game. About 8 year olds playing in the world championship in golf. Fascinating. Particularly the relationships between parent and their kid.

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

By the sounds of that hick he likely had that child with his cousin or possibly his sister!

YFlyer

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Actually if you look at it the best in the world have been taught by their parents
Katie Taylor
Tiger woods
Venus and Serena Williams
Rhonda rousey
I'm sure there's lots more

Steve Davis

pgmcpq

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Actually if you look at it the best in the world have been taught by their parents
Katie Taylor
Tiger woods
Venus and Serena Williams
Rhonda rousey
I'm sure there's lots more

In fairness you never hear of those that get injured, burn out, hate the activity etc. Running across the road against traffic might not be a good idea, but many survive it ... my mother seemed to thrive on it :rolleyes:.

RandyMann

Ah no, I am considering coaching my own daughters when I give it up. Think I could make a difference.

Letyourselfgo

RandyMann wrote: »

Ah no, I am considering coaching my own daughters when I give it up. Think I could make a difference.

and you should, don't let the above put you off. I coach both my daughters and my 4 little cousins as well as 40 more kids.
I definitely put a bit of extra into my own clan because they love it.
Main things to remember is not to put prsseure on them, they will run stinkers when you least expect it and when they do they don't want to hear you harping on about it, there's always another race so don't dwell.
My eldest daughter and one of my cousins are both in the same age group and seem to have a bit of talent. They both set their own goals this year, not me. Their goal was to make top 12 in Dublin champs and to retain the team gold and they worked damn hard to do it.

I can see where ecoli is coming from and having chatted with some of the parents in the club I sometimes am glad they don't coach their kid.

It's also a great bond to have and hopefully it lasts.

Chivito550

Anybody looking to coach their own children should firstly read Andre Agassi's exceptional autobiography and learn what not to do. His old man was the reason that one of the all-time greats of tennis hated this sport throughout his childhood, throughout his entire career (even when he was winning) and even now. The sport was a job to him and like many guys stuck in an office, he hated what he did for a living. Good job dad!

Letyourselfgo

Chivito550 wrote: »

Anybody looking to coach their own children should firstly read Andre Agassi's exceptional autobiography and learn what not to do. His old man was the reason that one of the all-time greats of tennis hated this sport throughout his childhood, throughout his entire career (even when he was winning) and even now. The sport was a job to him and like many guys stuck in an office, he hated what he did for a living. Good job dad!

http://www.newstalk.ie/player/podcasts/Off_The_Ball/GAA_on_Off_The_Ball/38382/2/Se%C3%A1n_%C3%93g_%C3%93_hAilpin

Good interview and Agassi gets a mention.

notsofast

Chivito550 wrote: »

Anybody looking to coach their own children should firstly read Andre Agassi's exceptional autobiography and learn what not to do. His old man was the reason that one of the all-time greats of tennis hated this sport throughout his childhood, throughout his entire career (even when he was winning) and even now. The sport was a job to him and like many guys stuck in an office, he hated what he did for a living. Good job dad!

Alternatively, you could read Seb Coe's autobiography and get exact opposite perspective.

In terms of athletics on Ireland, the provincial squad system should be expanded for talented athletes once they reach 16 or so. More sessions, more locations and more follow through, supporting the parent and non specialised club coaches. Squad sessions are great but once a month is not enough IMO.

RandyMann

Chivito550 wrote: »

Anybody looking to coach their own children should firstly read Andre Agassi's exceptional autobiography and learn what not to do. His old man was the reason that one of the all-time greats of tennis hated this sport throughout his childhood, throughout his entire career (even when he was winning) and even now. The sport was a job to him and like many guys stuck in an office, he hated what he did for a living. Good job dad!

Good job Dad for helping Andre make all those millions