TD says he'd make more as a Plumber!

L.Jenkins

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/97k-td-id-make-more-as-a-plumber-252895.html#.UrAjArgc7Zh.facebook

The cúnt earns over €97k per year including expenses and says he'd make more as a plumber. I'd like to know where he'd make this kind of money and I'll fúcking join him!

krudler

That Jesus, what a spoofer, he's a carpenter anyway

edit: op ninja edit has made joke redundant, carry on :pac:

funk-you

Which TD? Is there an article? TD's are hard done by you know...You try and keep a couple of houses going and see how long your money lasts....

-Funk

almighty1

And who are we talking about?

Anyone

almighty1 wrote: »

And who are we talking about?

Mick Wallace

chopper6

Itzy wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/97k-td-id-make-more-as-a-plumber-252895.html#.UrAjArgc7Zh.facebook

The cúnt earns over €97k per year including expenses and says he'd make more as a plumber. I'd like to know where he'd make this kind of money and I'll fúcking join him!

97k gross is about 50k net after all the taxes and pension levy have been factored in.

About 4 grand a month.

I've never met a plumber who didnt work cash in hand...or a carpenter,or a builder...and these blokes charge a fortune too.

Not as stupid as it might sound.

WoollyRedHat

€121,000 for junior ministers is not super pay?!! That statement is beneath contempt, Hayes is a ****ing moron.

FloatingVoter

Plumbers / carpenters/ electricians actually work for a living. TDs talk nonsense for cash. Most AH veterans would make fine TDs. Not all of us could fix a fridge, wire a house, or build a barn. Therein lies the difference.

joeguevara

Anyone wrote: »

Mick Wallace

It is not Mick Wallace

kowloon

funk-you wrote: »

Which TD? Is there an article? TD's are hard done by you know...You try and keep a couple of houses going and see how long your money lasts....

-Funk

That quote should be cast in bronze and displayed outside the Dail as a testament to how out of touch politicians can get.

L.Jenkins

chopper6 wrote: »

97k gross is about 50k net after all the taxes and pension levy have been factored in.

About 4 grand a month.

I've never met a plumber who didnt work cash in hand...or a carpenter,or a builder...and these blokes charge a fortune too.

Not as stupid as it might sound.

Know many people who earn €50k after tax and all other expenses without having to overly exert themselves? A brother of mine, an electrician, would be lucky to come with €30k per year after all expenses paid and at least one day off per week. Haven't seen the lad head home from work before 8 in the evening in the last 5 - 6 years either.

Daqster

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

€121,000 for junior ministers is not super pay?!! That statement is beneath contempt, Hayes is a ****ing moron.

Try it sometime, when you have a couple of cars, three houses, three homes (heat them, light them etc) and a few housekeepers..

FloatingVoter

Itzy wrote: »

Know many people who earn €50k after tax and all other expenses without having to overly exert themselves? A brother of mine, an electrician, would be lucky to come with €30k per year after all expenses paid and at least one day off per week. Haven't seen the lad head home from work before 8 in the evening in the last 5 - 6 years either.

Sounds like my cousin (a plumber funnily enough). I do know one guy who is a building contractor employing about three crews at any one time. He'd outearn a TD but not a junior minister. That's after 30 odd years of hard graft. He also has a low opinion of politicians.

Valetta

Itzy wrote: »

Know many people who earn €50k after tax and all other expenses without having to overly exert themselves? A brother of mine, an electrician, would be lucky to come with €30k per year after all expenses paid and at least one day off per week. Haven't seen the lad head home from work before 8 in the evening in the last 5 - 6 years either.

How many days a week do you think TDs work and what time in the evening would you say they finish?

Honest answer please.

Banjo String

Valetta wrote: »

How many days a week do you think TDs work and what time in the evening would you say they finish?

Honest answer please.

Honest answer.

Some don't work at all.

Some don't even pretend to either.

Some do no doubt.

Hijpo

Valetta wrote: »

How many days a week do you think TDs work and what time in the evening would you say they finish?

Honest answer please.

Work or bicker?
In the dail or on holiday from the dail?
Sober or over the legal driving limit after leaving the "work place" bar?

SEPT 23 1989

phoenix park stagg?

L.Jenkins

Valetta wrote: »

How many days a week do you think TDs work and what time in the evening would you say they finish?

Honest answer please.

Well if nearly €100k isn't enough for him, he'd want to working in excess of 12 to 14 hours per day, 7 days per week consistently for 11 months of the year before a pay rise should become due. I know people who have worked under said conditions and have not even earned half what he makes.

I also love how I should have empathy for this Politician. Like fúck I ever will!

Valetta

Banjo String wrote: »

Honest answer.

Some don't work at all.

Some don't even pretend to either.

Some do no doubt.

Which ones don't work at all?

L.Jenkins

Valetta wrote: »

Which ones don't work at all?

Even better, take the burden and find one that does.

Gongoozler

I'm in the public sector, and I earn the same or less than cleaners.

And yes I actually work my ass off

saltyjack silverblade

So was he in the Phoenix park looking to supplement the income? Maybe looking for a big rise. :pac:

WilyCoyote

I wonder if this chief whip is the one that he kept for protection under the bushes in Phoenix Park? Serious comments only

Valetta

Itzy wrote: »

Well if nearly €100k isn't enough for him, he'd want to working in excess of 12 to 14 hours per day, 7 days per week consistently for 11 months of the year before a pay rise should become due. I know people who have worked under said conditions and have not even earned half what he makes.

I also love how I should have empathy for this Politician. Like fúck I ever will!

He never said it wasn't enough for him.

lertsnim

chopper6 wrote: »

97k gross is about 50k net after all the taxes and pension levy have been factored in.

About 4 grand a month.

I've never met a plumber who didnt work cash in hand...or a carpenter,or a builder...and these blokes charge a fortune too.

Not as stupid as it might sound.

That sounds as insightful as the TD

L.Jenkins

Valetta wrote: »

He never said it wasn't enough for him.

You're right, he said he'd make that as a plumber. The only problem is, it would be too much like work!

padd b1975

Itzy wrote: »

Know many people who earn €50k after tax and all other expenses without having to overly exert themselves? A brother of mine, an electrician, would be lucky to come with €30k per year after all expenses paid and at least one day off per week. Haven't seen the lad head home from work before 8 in the evening in the last 5 - 6 years either.

Your brother sounds like a busy fool, he needs to increase his rates.

Frank Lee Midere

If you are comparing like with like it should be hourly pay. I wouldn't be a politician as there are few, if any days off. The constituency stuff is worse than the Dail.

L.Jenkins

Increase the rates too much and watch the work disappear!

judge_dredd

the common perception of what tradesmen earn now or were earning during the boom is so overdone its not funny , a guard would have been earning more than any plumber , electrican , general builders labourer during the good times and today are earning half as much if they even have work

Rochelle

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

phoenix park stagg?

Rent boys don't come cheap you know...

Dravokivich

Itzy wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/97k-td-id-make-more-as-a-plumber-252895.html#.UrAjArgc7Zh.facebook

The cúnt earns over €97k per year including expenses and says he'd make more as a plumber. I'd like to know where he'd make this kind of money and I'll fúcking join him!

I'd suggest you start by finding some leaky pipes.

padd b1975

Itzy wrote: »

Increase the rates too much and watch the work disappear!

Not necessarily, yes there could be a decrease in turnover but his quality of life will improve due to shorter days and because he will be less tired, the quality of his work will be of a higher standard which can only work in his favour in the long term.

L.Jenkins

padd b1975 wrote: »

Not necessarily, yes there could be a decrease in turnover but his quality of life will improve due to shorter days and because he will be less tired, the quality of his work will be of a higher standard which can only work in his favour in the long term.

That would be true and I've said it to him, to no avail!

suicide_circus

The complete disconnect between politicians and the lives of the plebs

kaimera

Quit the job as a TD then.

Self entitled ****er. Go work as a plumber and let someone who might not be a total plank have the TD job.

ffs. Fine time of year too to make such statements.

suicide_circus

And I just copped he's a labour td too...ffs what a wanker

Tramps Like Us

Emmet Stagg is one self centred moron.

Hard to believe Frank Stagg, who died on hunger strike in England, was his brother. Emmet played an instrumental role in stealing his brothers body and burying it under under armed guard, under tons of concrete rather than honouring his last wishes to be buried in the republican plot. He was a scumbag long before today!

crockholm

You would hope that elected representatives would have more sense than to be poor-mouthing/complaining about workloads in an era when people are leaving the country because of the unavailability of work or the low price being offered for said Labour.

If public representation is such an onerous profession why do they all seem to cling to S.S. Public service like barnacles?

blue note

Maybe if you were Tom McFeely's plumber.

krudler

suicide_circus wrote: »

The complete disconnect between politicians and the lives of the plebs

Ah now the poor things on a basic wage of 87k a year , sure you'd be living on noodles and water.

Cantona's Collars

I love the way these cnuts are so disengaged from the reality of life in Ireland these days,let him work for a living & struggle along getting a few days here & there then try to pay the bills out of it.They have the cheek to lecture the people that elected them while collecting 4 times the average wage & living in their ivory towers.:mad:

Joshua J

I may have taken them up wrong, if so then someone can correct me, my friend said that if a minister moves to another department they get another pension. Like if someone was a minister for Health, then in a reshuffle became minister for Environment and maybe some other time minister for Tourism that this person would get 3 pensions. Or did I take it up wrong?.

Agricola

I think the life of Micheal Healy Rae (as shown in that recent documentary) is a good indication of the workload & lifestyle of many TDs in the Dail. Lots of driving around from funeral to funeral, 21st birthday to 21st birthday, shop opening to shop opening. Bascially keeping as visible as possible and shaking as many hands as possible. This is mixed in with representing on behalf of constituents in the form of letter writing, phone calls from his office. Then of course lots of driving up and down to Dublin, for which he is handsomely reimbursed.

Does he do long hours, definitely. He is dog tired, no doubt. Is any of it worth a tinker's curse when it comes to actually improving the country as a whole? Debatable. Do other people work just as hard for far less pay and perks? Of course.

robertpatterson

I thought he already had a job of a part time uphill gardener?

FloatingVoter

Joshua J wrote: »

I may have taken them up wrong, if so then someone can correct me, my friend said that if a minister moves to another department they get another pension. Like if someone was a minister for Health, then in a reshuffle became minister for Environment and maybe some other time minister for Tourism that this person would get 3 pensions. Or did I take it up wrong?.

Nah..thats not true. Odds are if you get to cabinet level in a strong government you'll be moved around a few times before hopefully getting the big chair or shifted back to the backbenches for being naughty. It'll just be the one very fat ministerial pension though. You needn't worry about the fuel allowance or crap like that anymore.
Or they might move you to Europe when you'll get a second pension as a commissioner. That might be what your pal is thinking of. P Flynn,M Geoghan Quinn, John Bruton and McCreevy (may he have the green diarroheas) all get this. Among others.
So far as I know none of them can fix a leaky tap.

Cantona's Collars

Maybe he wants a job on the new Water Board & get a pension from there awell;)

tirnanog33

I paid a chancer (in Dublin) 90 Euros cash two days ago to clear a sink drain and he never did the job right.
Advertising on the web as "unbeatable".
That he was.
As far as I can see reliable plumbers are as scarce as hens teeth.
Those that are reliable probably make 90 grand a year.!

redarmy

tirnanog33 wrote: »

I paid a chancer (in Dublin) 90 Euros cash two days ago to clear a sink drain and he never did the job right.
Advertising on the web as "unbeatable".
That he was.
As far as I can see reliable plumbers are as scarce as hens teeth.
Those that are reliable probably make 90 grand a year.!

nice first post, emmet??

seaniefr

Dravokivich wrote: »

I'd suggest you start by finding some leaky pipes.

From Namawinelake circa 2011
"The junior minister earns a headline annual salary – before expenses, allowances, benefits, pensions, perks – of €130,042 (USD 174, 256, GBP 111,147)."

http://namawinelake.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/e130k-a-year-irish-politician-declares-the-country-is-bankrupt-and-invites-suggestions-to-fix-the-deficit/
He was earning 130K in 2011 ++++++++++

97K is small in relation to the the 'other stuff'