Orthodontist in Dublin

HI,

I'm Looking for a good orthodontist in Dublin.

I'm 27 and a student, so an Orthodontist that would have "student discounts" would be great :P

Obviously I don't want to sacrifice quality for a cheaper services, but a competitively priced Orthodontist would be great.

I have self diagnosed myself with and overjet and my teeth need straightening/braces, What would a ball park figure for this be?

Is the only way, considering my age, to repair an overjet, surgery?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Start with the orthodontic society of Ireland and take it from there. Everything else is speculative.

I came here for advice, I don't mind speculative information, if I got enough I would have a better picture,

surely you can give me some better advice?

helimachoptor

Jason Stocky Canoeist wrote: »

I have self diagnosed myself with and overjet and my teeth need straightening/braces, What would a ball park figure for this be?

Is the only way, considering my age, to repair an overjet, surgery?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Sweet jebus.. please dont do yourself a treatment plan and start moving stuff around your mouth

As Fitz says, get yourself to an orthodontist, they will give you a treatment plan, pretty much all allow payment in stages so you can spread the cost.


http://orthodontics.ie/find-an-orthodontist/

btkm8unsl0w5r4

My advice is go see an orthodontist. Knowing how to fix an overjet is impossible without knowing your skeletal pattern, bite relationship, extent of the malocclusion, facial appearance, restorative status of your teeth, number and distribution of your teeth, your wishes for treatment and desired outcome and the limitations these wishes impart on treatment along with a 100 other possible factors.

Its like asking on the motoring forum how to fix your car that wont start without knowing the type of car or technical details of the fault. Your guess is as good as anyone else's.

Generally orthodontist and dentists that do orthodontics see young adults between 13-30 years of age, to offer a student discount is to offer 90% of their patient discounts, so its generally not done. Most offer payment schedules.

Ball Park figure will be between 1000 and 7000 euro depending on the necessary treatment required by the factors listed above. Unfortunately the information you are after requires a consultation with a suitably experienced person, I know you want to go in armed with information, however more often than not, these details gleamed from the web are irrelevant to you and soak up valuable consultation time.

Or in short Start with the orthodontic society of Ireland and take it from there.

I was joking about the "Student discount" sorry if that was not clear :P

And I'm not asking you how to "fix my car that won't start" I'm asking what are ball park figures for a "clutch repair" and my "tracking done", a bit more specific, but I can see that this would differ for every "car", but assumed I could get a rough guesstimate, which although very rough you have supplied, thank you.

The main reason I started this thread was to get recommend a consultant in Dublin, I'm sure if I asked in the motoring forum for a good mechanic in my area I would have a few recommendation from people who know what they were talking about, I had assumed I could expect similar recommendation in this forum regarding Orthodontist in Dublin, but I am to take from this that if they are on the Orthodontist society of Ireland website, one is as good as the next?

Thank you for your input.

Oral Surgeon

Jason Stocky Canoeist wrote: »

I was joking about the "Student discount" sorry if that was not clear :P

And I'm not asking you how to "fix my car that won't start" I'm asking what are ball park figures for a "clutch repair" and my "tracking done", a bit more specific, but I can see that this would differ for every "car", but assumed I could get a rough guesstimate, which although very rough you have supplied, thank you.

The main reason I started this thread was to get recommend a consultant in Dublin, I'm sure if I asked in the motoring forum for a good mechanic in my area I would have a few recommendation from people who know what they were talking about, I had assumed I could expect similar recommendation in this forum regarding Orthodontist in Dublin, but I am to take from this that if they are on the Orthodontist society of Ireland website, one is as good as the next?

Thank you for your input.

Indeed, orthodontists are not clones of each other and while all have met the required level of training some are better at adult/ child ortho, surgical vs non surgical cases, standard vs lingual braces etc etc....

maybe post up where you live and where you work so that people can give recommendations (by pm...)

I thought that might be the case aright, I live in Rathfarnham, so in south Dublin really,

Also would I expect to pay much for a consultation?

So I went to the orthodontist yesterday, And nearly fell of the chair when he told me the cost to get my teeth and jaw fixed would be €25,000.

I obviously cant afford this, starting to regret letting my health insurance lapse.

So I have some more questions,

does this figure sound correct?
I wont be looking at starting my dental work till next year, If I was to pick up another insurance policy would it cover the jaw surgery?

Would I be eligible at my age for public work?

Really upset about the cost of this, seems to have put happiness out of my reach for a good few years

btkm8unsl0w5r4

That could be correct for a large scale orthognathic surgery case with before and after fixed braces. If you need some crowns after that could be in there also.

I would suggest the orthodontist maybe said that if you wanted a erfect job it would be that much but that there were other options. Its good to know the limitations before you start, and the orthodontist would be remiss not to tell you what is required for a "perfect" result.

Ardeehey

25k!! Good god, if your jaw and teeth are that bad then you must meet the requirements to get it done publically.....there's probably an absolutely massive waiting list though! Might be worth your while going to a public dental clinic for an assesment and see what they say.

Yeah, nail on the head, he did outline other options to me, but I know I would look back and regret anything but the best option, He didn't mention crowns that I remember, I do have a chipped front tooth that I would like fixed also,so I'm guessing that's a crown.

I was really happy with the orthodontist himself, I just really got knocked by the price and thought maybe there where other avenues I could take.

@Ardeehey

I'v never been able to smile in a photo, But I wouldn't have thought that I was €25,000 bad.

The quote for the braces alone was €5200
If it was just more affordable, I really don't know what to do now.

@Ardeehey could you link me to a public clinic? what sort of waiting times are we talking, probably a shorter wait than the time it would take me to save up €25,000.

Ardeehey

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/dental_aural_and_optical_services/dental_services.html

Some info here but you maybe out of look as orthodontic work is only mentioned in terms of kids. But as a previous poster mentioned you may not nessecarily need the perfect job done. I myself remembering being turned away from the lists when I was a nipper, case wasn't severe enough but thatfully my parents made the savings to get it all sorted, had huge gaps in my teeth, teeth were at crazy angles plus I had a huge overbite.

My wife has just completed tracks top and bottom, took about 7 months all in and cost about 4k, she is delighted with it but that's a lot of money but was worth it.

Best of luck with it

Lia_lia

^ I'm pretty sure with public treatment you have to be on a waiting list since being in school. Adults cannot go on the public waiting list as far as I know...not 100% sure though! My brother was on it for about 8 or 9 years, he has finally got braces at the age of 22. This is including extra waiting time for surgery (palatal expansion surgery). If he had health insurance the surgery would most likely have been free and done a lot quicker depending on what plan he'd be on!

OP I would advise going to another few orthodontists and see what they say. My braces cost me €4,000 (not including 4 extractions). Had them for 18 months, but they were estimated at 24 months. Orthodontic treatment is probably cheaper in Kerry than in Dublin, my case was still referred to as "severe". All went pretty smoothly though, I had an excellent orthodontist.

@Lia_lia

@Lia_lia Yeah I doubt very much that I would be eligible for public and I'm getting on a bit haha, so I don't think a wait of that long is practical for me.

I keep seeing the figure of €4000 popping up, I will defiantly be getting another consultation or two.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

See you cannot have it every way. You cannot have the best without paying the big bucks. If you have a skeletal problem where the jaws are mismatched in size or position ( as opposed to the teeth being crowded) then to truly "fix" the problem you need jaw corrective surgery. Often you need braces before and after along with a bunch of complex planning. Now if you dont have health insurance you are going to be stung for hospital fee, general anaesthetic fees, the surgeons fees, the orthodontists fees, the diagnostic work etc....all adds up and takes years and years.

Most people with skeletal discrepancies DONT have surgery, instead the orthodontist masks the problem as best they can by aligning the teeth and getting the bite as best they can within the anatomic limitations.

You are not going to go to another orthodontist who will give you the "best" treatment for 4k. Patient often hang onto high figures for dear life out of shock. The orthodontist did not say braces would be 25k, he or she said that for fully private cosmetic jaw surgery in combination with braces would be 25k.

If you dont have the money don't be codding yourself, be realistic. Jaw surgery is only for the select few who really need it. Your orthodontist can probably make your teeth more than acceptable with braces alone, but your face wont change shape that much.

Others peoples fees for braces have exactly sweet f.a to do with your case. The severity of your case, the time required and the complexity is what will determine the price.

I don't want it every way, I'm just trying to get it the best way, I have no doubt the the orthodontist gave me a good estimate, or as good an estimate as he could without taking x-rays and getting a 3D model of my teeth and really seeing how they fit and what my bite is like.

And your right that high figure really did shock me, would it not shock you? I completely understand the costs, I've had major surgery before, but thank god I was covered at the time so I didn't have to pay a penny.

I fully intend to get the braces and take the advice of the orthodontist on what route I should take regarding my jaw, but settling for second best is not something I am comfortable doing and masking a problem sounds to me like second best. if the surgery was the better option it's the option I would take.

I think it would be unwise of me not to get a second opinion and a second quote, I understand completely that every case is different and that gives me more reason to get a second opinion. I have seen people with sever cases paying less than my quote, my teeth aren't in great shape, but I don't think I'm a sever case, but I could be, so the only way to find out is getting a second opinion.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

If you have not had X-rays and/or models you have not had a consultation, only a introductory chat, look see or sales pitch. There could be a load of things going on that cannot be seen with the naked eye, Be careful of making any comparisons until somebody does a proper examination. Be careful to compare like with like. All orthodontist concept of the best way might not get you to where you want to be if you expect the best.

Get health insurance, now.

I intend to get health insurance anyway, I don't like not being covered and as I mentioned I've had a need for it in the past, do all policies cover the costs you listed above?

I know that's a very general question you probably don't have the answer to, but I wouldn't like to get a police and then find out I need the jaw work done only to find out I'm not covered for it on my policy.