Pigeon for Christmas anyone?

laugh

Irish Times

It might be time to change the social welfare entitlements of business owners.

Ray Palmer

I'd love to know who this guy they mentioned is. It doesn't sound believable. Either way a bit of a hack piece by the sounds of it

Menas

Sounds like the article was written by a chancer for a laugh....and the NY times printed it.

Oink

Ryan's of Pargate Street do a mean pigeon. I believe they are organically sourced from the rafters of the car park next door.

D1stant

I'm quite fond of a pigeon TBH. Strange how there was no mention of swans. The Hedald must have copyright on that

Post-Celtic Tiger Ireland is a land where consumer spending is flat, mortgages are constantly late and pigeons are hunted by those in need, according to an article in the New York Times.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/new-york-times-paints-picture-of-ireland-where-people-eat-pigeons-to-survive-29833290.html

danniemcq

merged

Michael D Not Higgins

http://www.independent.ie/regionals/braypeople/news/defendant-fined-750-and-bound-to-the-peace-volunteer-worker-hit-youth-with-litter-picker-27608407.html

Same guy? 45 in 2003.

chopper6

I do a bit of shooting so i eat woodpigeon quite often...lovely,tasty meat and very succulent.

Eating one of those one-legged "gicknahs" you see hopping round the city centre with growths all over them is not to be reccommended...fattened on filth and pre-marinated in pollution.

BMJD

yeh well in america they shoot childrens in school for fun so who cares what they think

TwoShedsJackson

I'd starve before eating a pigeon. Disgusting, verminous creatures.

ScumLord

How is he getting away with firing a gun in a built up area every day?

Sciprio

Pigeons are basically just flying rats.

Duggy747

I keep reading it as "Skankhill"

Ray Palmer

Michael D Not Higgins wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/regionals/braypeople/news/defendant-fined-750-and-bound-to-the-peace-volunteer-worker-hit-youth-with-litter-picker-27608407.html

Same guy? 45 in 2003.

Seems like it. Wonder what business he had if he was picking up litter on the streets for a living 10 years ago.

suicide_circus

Sinister Pigeon

I really don't know where to start with some of you c*nts...........

WilyCoyote

Sciprio wrote: »

Pigeons are basically just flying rats.

Well, rats kept some Parisians alive during La Révolution française. Cannot see anything wrong with eating pigeon except you'd need a good few to feed a family.

moxin

Funny comment on the NYT article!

SKDublin, Ireland
I live in Ireland, I was going to comment but I just saw a seagull have to shoot it for the tea

Gongoozler

Sciprio wrote: »

Pigeons are basically just flying rats.

Inspired. I think that's the first time I've heard that description. You deserve an award of some kind.

WilyCoyote

Let's hear it for all Pigeon followers. With Mouldy Old Dough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnOxfT6E_Bk

chopper6

Gongoozler wrote: »

Inspired. I think that's the first time I've heard that description. You deserve an award of some kind.

Our top story, the population of parasitic tree lizards has exploded, and local citizens couldn't be happier! It seems the rapacious reptiles have developed a taste for the common pigeon, also known as the 'feathered rat', or the 'gutter bird'. For the first time, citizens need not fear harassment by flocks of chattering disease-bags.

Valetta

I tried racing pigeons once, but I'll be damned if I could keep up with the buggers, never mind beat them.

Michael D Not Higgins

Ray Palmer wrote: »

Seems like it. Wonder what business he had if he was picking up litter on the streets for a living 10 years ago.

It says he was a volunteer. The New York Times said he had a hardware supply business.

Squab -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squab_(food)

Is on the menu of quite a few top restaurants. It tastes like gamey chicken but still quite delicate. Its very nice.

City pigeons are just rats with wings though.

garv123

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

I'd starve before eating a pigeon. Disgusting, verminous creatures.

Sciprio wrote: »

Pigeons are basically just flying rats.

There is a huge difference between wood pigeons and feral pigeons..

Wood pigeon is on a lot of hotel menu's for big money.

martinedwards

I'd need to desperate to eat a city pigeon, but country ones?

yummy!!

Mint Aero

I know plenty of people that have taken up hunting in the past 5 years for food. Better than rummaging through bins for scraps of food imho. Usually lads under 25 with reduced dole, they've no other option if there's no family to support them.

Auldloon

Pigeon is yummy. Breasts fried gently in butter for 1 min each side mmmmm carpaccio of wood pigeon another favourite. Try it!

BBJBIG

Pigeon
Cabbage sliced
Can of tomatoe
Can of tomatoe soup
Little vinegar
Some sugar

Delicious .....

All Yanks should try it :pac:

wendell borton

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

I'd starve before eating a pigeon. Disgusting, verminous creatures.

That's only the skanger townie pigeons, nothing wrong with some wood pigeon.:D

martinedwards

BBJBIG wrote: »

Pigeon
Cabbage sliced
Can of tomatoe
Can of tomatoe soup
Little vinegar
Some sugar

Delicious .....

All Yanks should try it :pac:

yes, serve it with potatoe, preferably on a patioe in Sligoe....:P

Ray Palmer

Did you see the times and the Indo both have stories on him. One claiming he was misquoted and he was doing it as some form of pest control. The other saying he had to do it to survive. Both quoting him.

This seems to be a great example of newspapers not able to give the truth.

UCDVet

I wouldn't take it too seriously. The media wants good stories, and the truth is usually pretty normal.

Newspapers exaggerated how good things were during the boom.
Newspapers are exaggerating how bad things are after the boom.

Most of the facts presented seem correct. They purposefully picked a families/people that would illustrate the point they wanted to make. The opening paragraph basically says that things are looking up for a lot of Ireland....but not this one family...here comes a sad story. Then they got some extreme quotes from the people they specifically found to talk about their hard-times.

Even during height of the tiger, you could find plenty of individual people who were on hard times.

I still remember all the predictions of the Euro collapsing.

Ray Palmer

UCDVet wrote: »

Most of the facts presented seem correct.

I don't get how you can say that seeing as they directly contradict each other. They can't both be right

chopper6

Mint Aero wrote: »

I know plenty of people that have taken up hunting in the past 5 years for food. Better than rummaging through bins for scraps of food imho. Usually lads under 25 with reduced dole, they've no other option if there's no family to support them.

So these lads are driven to the very extremes of desperation in order to survive?

Taking up hunting as an alternative to bin-rummaging and starvation?

I suppose they have moved into caves now because it was becoming so expensive to rent on the dole.

rubadub

I wonder how many shots he takes on average, and what does it cost for each shot in total. There is little meat on a pigeon so I wouldn't be surprised if mince beef is cheaper per gram. I can get a full size roasted chicken in tesco for €2 when being sold off at 6.30pm, and rakes of other food is sold off which I would sooner eat than pigeon.

Also you have to take into account the time taken, which could have been spent either doing paid work or something like planting veg.

I remember hearing some similar nonsense story about a guy who was "starving for days" as he had no money, in the same story he was talking of how he stuggles to pay for taxis! he was looked obese & a big screen tv was in the picture.

And someother nonsense about eating cardboard.

Mint Aero

chopper6 wrote: »

So these lads are driven to the very extremes of desperation in order to survive?

Taking up hunting as an alternative to bin-rummaging and starvation?

I suppose they have moved into caves now because it was becoming so expensive to rent on the dole.

No they live at home with mammy. Afford rent on 100 or 144 a week? you're joking right? :pac:

garv123

rubadub wrote: »

I wonder how many shots he takes on average, and what does it cost for each shot in total. There is little meat on a pigeon so I wouldn't be surprised if mince beef is cheaper per gram. I can get a full size roasted chicken in tesco for €2 when being sold off at 6.30pm, and rakes of other food is sold off which I would sooner eat than pigeon.

Also you have to take into account the time taken, which could have been spent either doing paid work or something like planting veg.

I remember hearing some similar nonsense story about a guy who was "starving for days" as he had no money, in the same story he was talking of how he stuggles to pay for taxis! he was looked obese & a big screen tv was in the picture.

And someother nonsense about eating cardboard.

Using a shotgun around 20c a shot.. Doesn't take much effort to shoot and breast pigeon either.

chopper6

Mint Aero wrote: »

No they live at home with mammy. Afford rent on 100 or 144 a week? you're joking right? :pac:

So mummy's boys by night...intrepid big-game hunters by day?

Mint Aero

chopper6 wrote: »

So mummy's boys by night...intrepid big-game hunters by day?

If you think shooting a pigeon is intrepid big game hunting then all the best to ya in your future endeavours.

Capt'n Midnight

D1stant wrote: »

I'm quite fond of a pigeon TBH. Strange how there was no mention of swans. The Hedald must have copyright on that

YThere's swans in Lidl
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057104376

chopper6

Mint Aero wrote: »

If you think shooting a pigeon is intrepid big game hunting then all the best to ya in your future endeavours.

And if you believe people are going out hunting pigeons whilst living at home with thier mammies,simply as an alternative to scrounging on refuse heaps...

What are they using to hunt? Bows and arrows?

It's extremely difficult to licence a firearm these days and for lads on the dole who cant afford food,shooting is quite an expensive hobby.

garv123

chopper6 wrote: »

And if you believe people are going out hunting pigeons whilst living at home with thier mammies,simply as an alternative to scrounging on refuse heaps...

What are they using to hunt? Bows and arrows?

It's extremely difficult to licence a firearm these days and for lads on the dole who cant afford food,shooting is quite an expensive hobby.

No its not?
Have a valid reason for wanting one (hunting or target shooting) and have a clean record..
Simples..

chopper6

garv123 wrote: »

No its not?
Have a valid reason for wanting one (hunting or target shooting) and have a clean record..
Simples..

You need to be a member of an approved shooting range OR you need written permision from two landowners PLUS you need an approved firearms storage cabinet that must be bolted to a concrete wall.

Witcher

chopper6 wrote: »

You need to be a member of an approved shooting range OR you need written permision from two landowners PLUS you need an approved firearms storage cabinet that must be bolted to a concrete wall.

Permission doesn't cost you anything and you don't need a safe for a shotgun.

garv123

And whats difficult about any of that?

chopper6

Blay wrote: »

Permission doesn't cost you anything and you don't need a safe for a shotgun.

Permission doesnt cost anything but if a farmer doesnt like the look of you he'll refuse.

That includes looking like a 25 year old city boy in a baseball cap.

garv123

chopper6 wrote: »

Permission doesnt cost anything but if a farmer doesnt like the look of you he'll refuse.

That includes looking like a 25 year old city boy in a baseball cap.

Take off the baseball cap.. simples..

Im 22 and all the lads my age never have any issues getting permission off farmers..

Witcher

chopper6 wrote: »

Permission doesnt cost anything but if a farmer doesnt like the look of you he'll refuse.

That includes looking like a 25 year old city boy in a baseball cap.

Make up hurdles all you want, it isn't 'extremely difficult' to licence a firearm.